[Archived] Blackburn Rovers Transfer Topic

[Amo]

After getting 18 mill for Santa Cruz, turning a profit on Bellamy, Friedel, Bentley ... I think people are addicted to seeing how much money we can get for players now.

It's almost as if we've given up hoping to improve on the pitch, for trying to improve the bank balance.

It's more a case of fans being realistic. If we weren't a small-town selling club, then none of us would entertain cashing in our best players. That said, even Man. Utd were resigned to losing their best player this year. So it's not just limited to the smaller teams.

[LeChuck]

After getting 18 mill for Santa Cruz, turning a profit on Bellamy, Friedel, Bentley ... I think people are addicted to seeing how much money we can get for players now.

It's almost as if we've given up hoping to improve on the pitch, for trying to improve the bank balance.

My theory was I think we'd be stronger with Bentley and Huth replacing Samba. I don't want Samba to go though (I know I'm contradicting myself there).

I also think the fact that we already have Nelsen and Givet here is swaying a lot of people.

[Taggart]

Personally I think Givet is our best centre half and that would make either nelsen or samba a back up option. Getting ten millon for a could be back up option, spending a little on another on back up centre half and the majority on a creative midfielder seems to make a lot of sense to me.

But i agree with one of the posts above it was in the sun so means very little and not worth worrying about.

Based on what with Givet ? he only played there a handful of times last season, and spent most of his tiem at left back - how can you seriously say he is better there than Nelly or Samba ? what a load of tosh.

I hope the club knocks back any approach for Samba, our defense is looking stronger than recent years and we don`t want to go furthe rback in to shipping god knows how many goals at the start of the season again.

[broadsword]

I can't for a second imagine that after all the sales of the last few years, we really need to sell Samba.

That situation might change if he were to openly agitate for a move (no club can keep an unhappy player indefinitely), but as things stand at the moment, I don't see a big risk of him leaving.

You need to keep your best players for as long as you can. As I said before, some people are more worried about how much we can get for a player, they seem more interested in the bank balance than the 3 points, otherwise why would they be talking about how much we could get for Samba?

[Al]

He's only here until January, I can't see us planning a long-term first eleven with him in it.

Personally I think he's just here to take a bit of the pressure off Kalinic for the first few months, strikers can often struggle to start scoring straight away at new clubs.

Not necessarily. He may be here all season. Plus he's not taking a lot of pressure off on the bench.

Must have two up front!

[den]

I can't for a second imagine that after all the sales of the last few years, we really need to sell Samba.

That situation might change if he were to openly agitate for a move (no club can keep an unhappy player indefinitely), but as things stand at the moment, I don't see a big risk of him leaving.

You need to keep your best players for as long as you can. As I said before, some people are more worried about how much we can get for a player, they seem more interested in the bank balance than the 3 points, otherwise why would they be talking about how much we could get for Samba?

That's how it looks to me as well Bryan.

Everyone putting a price on our players and wringing their hands.

[incecticide]

Everyone putting a price on our players and wringing their hands.

I'm more interested in the fact that we could replace Samba and buy 2 more players with the sort of money Spurs would be persuaded to part with.

If they up it to 12 or 13m, I'd sell. Samba's not THAT good - he's slow on the turn and I lost count of the amount of times he was done with a little drop of the shoulder by the likes of Defoe last season.

[Fife Rover]

Beckham probable has the dosh to buy Rovers, let alone play for them.

Where has Nicko gone?

Now that is not a bad idea. It could just be worth floating past Mr Beckhams advisors. Just think of the advantages to both parties. Rovers owned and directed by the World's best known footballer, and all the marketing and brand name that would give us. Plus for Beckham another and completely different stage to perform on.....taking control of a once great football club and PL champions, that has fallen on hard times but with the Beckham Brand it will rise again and achieve and exceed all it's past glories etc etc.

Nothing to lose by trying it. Now then who is responsible for selling the Rovers? Just get them on the line Patricia, if you please.

[Ronin]

Roll on September 1st

[jannerman]

A close friend was working with 'Arry yesterday for a Sun promotion day and heard who he really wants at the back...and it is NOT samba.

Luca Toni? (sorry, long morning in the office)

[roversmad95]

Every single time we've sold our 'star' player, we've been worse off the next season. This season could be the first one to buck that trend.

I have to say though...Bentley + £5 million would be very tempting, especially if Robert Huth is really available for about £2 million...

Jacobsen Nelsen Givet Warnock

..........Grella....N'Zonzi

.....Diouf....Bentley...Pedersen

.................Kalinic

Must say, I like that...

i like it also but i would play emerton before diouf... and bentley wont come back so dunny will play there(when fit)... di santo/kalinic up front....

[OscarRaven]

Now that is not a bad idea. It could just be worth floating past Mr Beckhams advisors. Just think of the advantages to both parties. Rovers owned and directed by the World's best known footballer, and all the marketing and brand name that would give us. Plus for Beckham another and completely different stage to perform on.....taking control of a once great football club and PL champions, that has fallen on hard times but with the Beckham Brand it will rise again and achieve and exceed all it's past glories etc etc.

Nothing to lose by trying it. Now then who is responsible for selling the Rovers? Just get them on the line Patricia, if you please.

Beckham Rovers. No ta.

[den]

I'm more interested in the fact that we could replace Samba and buy 2 more players with the sort of money Spurs would be persuaded to part with.

If they up it to 12 or 13m, I'd sell. Samba's not THAT good - he's slow on the turn and I lost count of the amount of times he was done with a little drop of the shoulder by the likes of Defoe last season.

"Samba's not that good- he's slow on the turn and I lost count of the amount of times he was done with a little drop of the shoulder by the likes of Defoe last season." - you should have added "in my opinion".

I think most people on here thought he was our player of the season last season, so I would have to question your judgement?

[Amo]

"Samba's not that good- he's slow on the turn and I lost count of the amount of times he was done with a little drop of the shoulder by the likes of Defoe last season." - you should have added "in my opinion".

Adding 'in my opinion' is redundant. Who else's opinion is it, if not your own?

[mellison24]

Adding 'in my opinion' is redundant. Who else's opinion is it, if not your own?

Smartass

[joey_big_nose]

People are also forgetting that Nelsen is getting on a bit now and in many ways that is compensated for by Samba's physicality and pace.

Givet and Nelsen would be a much slower pairing and Nelsen would probably stop being able to play 30+ games a season within the next two years.

[roversmum]

Sigh. Usual load of nonsense being talked here. Samba can only improve and if there is the need to sell or he wants to move then next year is a better bet surely. He's worth far more than is being touted around to Rovers in my most humble opinion and can only improve.

Sure way to make a girl feel depressed, logging on here hoping for some interesting news and...

[Fife Rover]

People are also forgetting that Nelsen is getting on a bit now and in many ways that is compensated for by Samba's physicality and pace.

Givet and Nelsen would be a much slower pairing and Nelsen would probably stop being able to play 30+ games a season within the next two years.

What's happened to Zurab? Have we sold him as well? Or is he kept locked up in a cupboard where nobody remembers we even have him. Because nobody has even metioned his name so far when considering our position if we were to sell Samba. Not that I am advocating him as the first name on the team sheet or anything like that, but surely if we sell Samba he should at least have his existence recognised by his own club's fans when considering the position assuming Samba goes. Not that I would like to see Samba go.....far from it, but IF he does we need to look at the whole picture as it actually is; that's all.

[incecticide]

you should have added "in my opinion".

I think most people on here thought he was our player of the season last season

"most" might be pushing it from what I've read... But OK - in my opinion (just for you den) he needs someone like nelsen with experience to play next to him and guide him through matches - he's a naive defender at times.

i don't need to add IMO to the last part - i really did lose count, that much is fact.

[S15]

Swap the L and T in ur username and that is why your valuation of samba is pathetic.

Shiltilo? Good work mate, another blinder

Look, I think Samba is a good player, but I don't think he's the hero many of you are painting him. Once we are talking double figure millions, we are talking above his value.

He is not in the Santa Cruz bracket, where if his formed dropped or if the team wasn't playing well his value would stay high. A Samba out of form would struggle to fetch half the £10m quoted, and I think him out the team with a midfielder of similar value brought in is a stronger team. (How many people were cursing the fact we didn't sell McCarthy a few months later when his form dropped)

I genuinely don't believe Samba is worth £10m, and if we get offered that amount, or something around that, it'll be interesting to see if Allardyce agrees.

[mellison24]

Shiltilo? Good work mate, another blinder

Look, I think Samba is a good player, but I don't think he's the hero many of you are painting him. Once we are talking double figure millions, we are talking above his value.

He is not in the Santa Cruz bracket, where if his formed dropped or if the team wasn't playing well his value would stay high. A Samba out of form would struggle to fetch half the £10m quoted, and I think him out the team with a midfielder of similar value brought in is a stronger team. (How many people were cursing the fact we didn't sell McCarthy a few months later when his form dropped)

I genuinely don't believe Samba is worth £10m, and if we get offered that amount, or something around that, it'll be interesting to see if Allardyce agrees.

I didn't know there were 2 L's there hahaha. Could only read One. ANyway, at least now u have a point. As far as I could tell before u just wanted to sell Samba for the money; but now there is a practical after-plan added. The bentley one wouldn't really work unless it was samba for bentley+cash. Altho i do NOT want to sell samba (see fans fave bit, as well as being very good CB for his age), I wouldn't object to having Zurab play in his place if it got us Bentley. But thats the ONLY way I would sell. Otherwise, they can shove it.

[riggers77]

Based on what with Givet ? he only played there a handful of times last season, and spent most of his tiem at left back - how can you seriously say he is better there than Nelly or Samba ? what a load of tosh.

I hope the club knocks back any approach for Samba, our defense is looking stronger than recent years and we don`t want to go furthe rback in to shipping god knows how many goals at the start of the season again.

He is a capped french international at centre half, his position is centre half, I only need to have seen him play there a handful of times to know he is a class act and therefore in my opinion i think he is better than both nelsen and samba. I understand that Samba is a good player but I somehow think that people are justifying his form last year on a few ok performances up front at the end of it. In all honestey is form at centre half for the most part was average at best, im not saying i am right but if i had to pick samba or givet then i would pick givet. Just my opinion though.

[den]

"most" might be pushing it from what I've read... But OK - in my opinion (just for you den) he needs someone like nelsen with experience to play next to him and guide him through matches - he's a naive defender at times.

I would argue that Nelsen needs Samba.

All this talk of selling our best players because we can get two for the price of one - going that way is the road to relegation, we've seen it loads of times. The way to progress is by selling your weakest players and replacing them with better, not selling your best players to your rivals or anyone else..

[incecticide]

he should at least have his existence recognised by his own club's fans

i recongise the existence of zurab!

[incecticide]

I would argue that Nelsen needs Samba.

going that way is the road to relegation, we've seen it loads of times. the way to progress is by selling your weakest players and replacing them with better

we can't do that. our weakest players last season were people like Mokoena who we couldn't even get a fee for - and better players cost money. surely you recognise a club like ours has to sell and be clever with the money to bring in players like samba (£400k), bring them on as players, take silly money bids like £10m and repeat the cycle?

having a badly run club is the road to relelgation. i'm willing to bet we never get relegated with williams running the show and allardyce in charge.