[Archived] Blackburn Rovers Transfer Topic

[Oklahoma]

You say that but Rothen would provide more creativity than any of our current crop regardless that he is 31. People keep defending Gamst but can we really keep waiting for a player to reproduce his form of 3 years ago?? When your a club like Blackburn who just avoided relegation last season we cant afford to sit and hope. Were not like UTD who can hope that the 16 odd million they invested in Nani may pay off at some point.

If Rothen comes to play on the left, I think that it could be a good option.

But people want him to be the new "tugay", they want him to be our creative midfielder and, for that to happen, he would have to play in the centre.

I agree with you that we can't afford to make ridiculous investments (like Nani or, Quaresma, which is even worse).

But we should look for central midfielders to play in the centre.

I would prefer Nuno Assis, Pompey already made a £2million bid (according to the press).

[Kelbo]

I don't undertsand why (few pages back) people (Eddie) can't accept that Rothen may well be used in a central midfield role!! This is where we are short of fitness and creativity. Something he seems to ensure!! He isn't the quickest of wingers and crosses early as a result. THIS leads me to believe he will have a gud cross-pitch pass from the centre. And if he can do that, then his short passes will be decent too!

I know we haven't signed him yet, but if we do, I will have plenty of faith as it means Sam likes him. I'm prepared to eat these words if it goes A over T.

If he can deliver a ball, we are on to a winner, we need that, Samba, DiSanto and NZonzi all 6'4"

plus Nelsen and the other strikers!!!

[Iceman]

Rothen is not Tugay. I checked the spelling and its not spelt the same. Rothen can certainly do a job for us, but you cant expect him to be the next Tugay.

[Eddie]

I don't undertsand why (few pages back) people (Eddie) can't accept that Rothen may well be used in a central midfield role!! This is where we are short of fitness and creativity. Something he seems to ensure!! He isn't the quickest of wingers and crosses early as a result. THIS leads me to believe he will have a gud cross-pitch pass from the centre. And if he can do that, then his short passes will be decent too!

I know we haven't signed him yet, but if we do, I will have plenty of faith as it means Sam likes him. I'm prepared to eat these words if it goes A over T.

Because he isn't a central midfielder and converting a wide player to a central midfielder rarely works, particularly when they are older. Also because I have seen a lot of him over the past few years and he certainly doesn't look up to it. Every PSG fan I know is happy to see the back of him and if we pay anything for him it would be amazingly stupid. He'll be on relatively high wages and I just can't see any positive about it. We'd be better off sticking with what we have. I don't deny that we need a quality central midfielder, but what we don't need is another average one who really isn't good enough, we have quite a few of those already.

I don't think you'll find anyone who has seen a lot of Rothen over the past 24 months disagreeing with me.

I don't undertsand why (few pages back) people (Eddie) can't accept that Rothen may well be used in a central midfield role!! This is where we are short of fitness and creativity. Something he seems to ensure!! He isn't the quickest of wingers and crosses early as a result. THIS leads me to believe he will have a gud cross-pitch pass from the centre. And if he can do that, then his short passes will be decent too!

I know we haven't signed him yet, but if we do, I will have plenty of faith as it means Sam likes him. I'm prepared to eat these words if it goes A over T.

Because he isn't a central midfielder and converting a wide player to a central midfielder rarely works, particularly when they are older. Also because I have seen a lot of him over the past few years and he certainly doesn't look up to it. Every PSG fan I know is happy to see the back of him and if we pay anything for him it would be amazingly stupid. He'll be on relatively high wages and I just can't see any positive about it. We'd be better off sticking with what we have. I don't deny that we need a quality central midfielder, but what we don't need is another average one who really isn't good enough, we have quite a few of those already.

I don't think you'll find anyone who has seen a lot of Rothen over the past 24 months disagreeing with me.

[mellison24]

Because he isn't a central midfielder and converting a wide player to a central midfielder rarely works, particularly when they are older. Also because I have seen a lot of him over the past few years and he certainly doesn't look up to it. Every PSG fan I know is happy to see the back of him and if we pay anything for him it would be amazingly stupid. He'll be on relatively high wages and I just can't see any positive about it. We'd be better off sticking with what we have. I don't deny that we need a quality central midfielder, but what we don't need is another average one who really isn't good enough, we have quite a few of those already.

I don't think you'll find anyone who has seen a lot of Rothen over the past 24 months disagreeing with me.

Because he isn't a central midfielder and converting a wide player to a central midfielder rarely works, particularly when they are older. Also because I have seen a lot of him over the past few years and he certainly doesn't look up to it. Every PSG fan I know is happy to see the back of him and if we pay anything for him it would be amazingly stupid. He'll be on relatively high wages and I just can't see any positive about it. We'd be better off sticking with what we have. I don't deny that we need a quality central midfielder, but what we don't need is another average one who really isn't good enough, we have quite a few of those already.

I don't think you'll find anyone who has seen a lot of Rothen over the past 24 months disagreeing with me.

So good you mentioned it twice You say converting a wide player to centre has never worked? Look no further than Brett Emerton. He was played on the wing when he first came here. When he was played in the CDM role under Hughes he played very well, if not better than on the wing or at FB!! What about if we got him on a free and it happens to work? I'll admit I have seen little of him, but for me he could do a job in the middle. It's my OPINION. I'm not saying you are wrong. Nor am I wrong. he may well do a job for us there (I'm not suggesting he will be Tugay mkII. But he can do a job on a free). Rothen or Gally? Take ur pic cos those are our apparent options (altho it's ONLY GALLY atmo). I'd be happy for either one to do such a role as a stop-gap and who knows? It could pay off and he may make the position his own!! Trust Allardyce. He's re-moulded and re-shaped careers before. Looks like he may do it with Ellington too!

[Kelbo]

So good you mentioned it twice You say converting a wide player to centre has never worked? Look no further than Brett Emerton. He was played on the wing when he first came here. When he was played in the CDM role under Hughes he played very well, if not better than on the wing or at FB!! What about if we got him on a free and it happens to work? I'll admit I have seen little of him, but for me he could do a job in the middle. It's my OPINION. I'm not saying you are wrong. Nor am I wrong. he may well do a job for us there (I'm not suggesting he will be Tugay mkII. But he can do a job on a free). Rothen or Gally? Take ur pic cos those are our apparent options (altho it's ONLY GALLY atmo). I'd be happy for either one to do such a role as a stop-gap and who knows? It could pay off and he may make the position his own!! Trust Allardyce. He's re-moulded and re-shaped careers before. Looks like he may do it with Ellington too!

He turned a poor Centre back into a decent midfielder!! Campo

[Eddie]

1) Difference between rarely and never.

2) Those aren't are only two options. Even if Rothen is free he will be coming in on 25k a week, I think there would be better options out there for less than that.

3) My opinion on why it won't work is based purely on his recent performances and on the fact that he isn't really up to the challenges of Ligue 1, yours are based on what? You really think that a player who can't do it over here will do a job in the premier league in a position he is unfamiliar with?

[Hughesy]

Aron Gunnarsson (Coventry City)

That is the player we should sign to take over Tugay's role. Only 19 year old and looks a big talent. I dont think he would cost the earth either.

Also we invited his agents etc as special guests to a game last season - wonder what happened with that one??

[Kelbo]

1) Difference between rarely and never.

2) Those aren't are only two options. Even if Rothen is free he will be coming in on 25k a week, I think there would be better options out there for less than that.

3) My opinion on why it won't work is based purely on his recent performances and on the fact that he isn't really up to the challenges of Ligue 1, yours are based on what? You really think that a player who can't do it over here will do a job in the premier league in a position he is unfamiliar with?

Eddie,

I have got to respect your judgement as you are seeing the player on a regular basis, but could you answer me a question, what is the lads delivery like from either wide positions or dead ball situations (including corners)?

[mellison24]

1) Difference between rarely and never.

2) Those aren't are only two options. Even if Rothen is free he will be coming in on 25k a week, I think there would be better options out there for less than that.

3) My opinion on why it won't work is based purely on his recent performances and on the fact that he isn't really up to the challenges of Ligue 1, yours are based on what? You really think that a player who can't do it over here will do a job in the premier league in a position he is unfamiliar with?

Stranger things have happened. My opinion is based on what Allardyce is evidently doing (ie: taking him on trial). I am merely suggesting how he may fit in, if Sam does indeed decide to get him. I'll trust Sam ahead of you anyday. I honestly don't mean any disrespect by that. He's hardly bringing him in as Pedersen's replacment is he? UNLESS he plans to play Pedersen in the free AM role and Rothen on the wing? Intriguing......*wanders off in deep thought*

[Eddie]

He's got a decent cross on him, that's for sure, it's the best part of his game, but he's hardly in an elite group in that category. As I said, the perfect description is a bad Beckham.

[mellison24]

Beckham it is then!!!

[Kelbo]

He's got a decent cross on him, that's for sure, it's the best part of his game, but he's hardly in an elite group in that category. As I said, the perfect description is a bad Beckham.

Cheers for that, I can see why he may be considered, however like yourself can see better options out there, especially the Bosnian lad at Split!!

[67splitscreen]

Where do we keep getting the free from with Rothen.

He has 1 year to run on a 40k a week contract. Why would PSG let him go on a free.

So as well as buying out the remainder of his contract as nicko suggested circa 2m, he would be dropping down to 25k a week according to some.

[Oklahoma]

Aron Gunnarsson (Coventry City)

That is the player we should sign to take over Tugay's role. Only 19 year old and looks a big talent. I dont think he would cost the earth either.

Also we invited his agents etc as special guests to a game last season - wonder what happened with that one??

I read about him today and he was presented as a future star.

The author of the article said that another year in the Championship might not be bad for him.

[JAL]

To be fair, I agree with mhead. Gally has a decent pass and can shoot. He is wasted on the wing and will be better operating as an attacking midfielder to supply the forwards. He can also take over corner duty for a while! BUT, only when Dunny isn't fit. AND I would also opt for Rothen 1st, if we got him. Gally would be most useful at AM/CF role, but I would take any money we get for him and run. He would only be a stop gap in that position. We need a specialist passer of the ball.

What i'm trying to point out is, Gally just isnt physically strong enough to do things you wish of him. Gally will be up against bigger physically stronger players that will stop him from being effective on the pitch.

Gally will spend 90%+ of the game chasing after the ball that when it comes to him he'll be physically exhausted and mentally weak to have any impact on a game. Gally needs to drop to a level that will suit his pace.

[j166429]

I agree with Eddie concerning Rothen. I've seen him play on a number of occasions last season and I think he would struggle. He looks like he's lost some pace and reminded me a lot of David Dunn. certainly not the player he was whilst at Monaco.

[Manc Rover]

I read about him today and he was presented as a future star.

The author of the article said that another year in the Championship might not be bad for him.

Is he the guy that destroyed us in the FA cup last year? Looked a good un.

[cn174]

Is he the guy that destroyed us in the FA cup last year? Looked a good un.

Yes it is. Weren't we half heartedly linked to him some time ago?

[Oklahoma]

Yes it is. Weren't we half heartedly linked to him some time ago?

Don't worry.

After we mentioned him here, he will be linked with Rovers again in the weekend...

[simcla]

Didn't a Mr Kerimogulu play on the wing earlier in his career? You have to trust the manager and his staff to buy the players that he thinks can make the best team with the money that he has. Its alright saying players A & B are brilliant and players C & D are a pair of donkeys, but if the brilliant players cant play in the way the manager wants, whats the point of getting them in?

[doctorryan]

I just don't think that we should get a left midfielder to play centre, specially when he is already 31..

If Rothen comes to play on the left, I think that it could be a good option.

But people want him to be the new "tugay", they want him to be our creative midfielder and, for that to happen, he would have to play in the centre.

I agree with you that we can't afford to make ridiculous investments (like Nani or, Quaresma, which is even worse).

But we should look for central midfielders to play in the centre.

(according to the press).

PSG has played him in the midfield.

Whoops - sorry I meant middle.

Because he isn't a central midfielder and converting a wide player to a central midfielder rarely works, particularly when they are older. Also because I have seen a lot of him over the past few years and he certainly doesn't look up to it. Every PSG fan I know is happy to see the back of him and if we pay anything for him it would be amazingly stupid. He'll be on relatively high wages and I just can't see any positive about it. We'd be better off sticking with what we have. I don't deny that we need a quality central midfielder, but what we don't need is another average one who really isn't good enough, we have quite a few of those already.

I don't think you'll find anyone who has seen a lot of Rothen over the past 24 months disagreeing with me.

Wonk, wonk, wonk. He'll be at Brockhall Monday. Get over that. Sam will be taking neither yours nor my opinion of the player into account when he makes his decision. Get over that too. Remember - 50 quid.

[thenodrog]

.................. can we close this topic now and get on with the season.

Nope... I don't think the season will start earlier than next Sat simply cos we close a thread down. But if you have nothing to do Plastic Head you might try writing to the Premier League with a cc to Sky TV, the FA and Man City asking them all if they don't mind if we crack off tomorrow.

Aron Gunnarsson (Coventry City)

That is the player we should sign to take over Tugay's role. Only 19 year old and looks a big talent. I dont think he would cost the earth either.

Also we invited his agents etc as special guests to a game last season - wonder what happened with that one??

And if I rem correctly he can throw a long ball deep into the pen area.

[Oklahoma]

PSG has played him in the midfield.

[doctorryan]

Sorry - Central Midfield. I meant to say centre. I've had to repeat that fact about a dozen times already. I feel like a broken record.