[Archived] Blackburn Rovers Transfer Topic

[alexanders]

Why do we want Rothen and Salgado?

We are looking for a proper attacking midfielder

[brian_gallagher85]

Last summer we sold Freidel and Bentley for around £20m and spent half of that. Where did that money go? And why on earth does no-one ask these questions?

HALF OF THE BENTLEY MONEY WENT TO ARSENAL!

[patrickvalery]

I think this hysteria is a little unwarranted.

Firstly if all this talk of no money is true then it hardly comes as a suprise. We should be well used to it by now. Plus Allardyce has come out and said that there would be no more signings. Could it not be that one of our squad players is due to leave imminently and this will potentially free up some wages and/or transfer fee? Surely Sam must have a list of which areas he wants to strengthen and in what priority? If so he may have been testing the water in regards to who he could bring in if said squad player leaves.

Secondly who is to say we haven't ear marked whatever is left for the CM void. In which case Rothen and Salgado may have to be put on ice until that area is resolved. I notice on Sky he said Rothen is not priority as he is a "left sider". Indicating to me he sees the middle as top priority. But it is surely just good practice to see what else is about. IF we fill the midfield void then someone departs leaving us with room for another inbound player, surely its better to have made some progress rather than none?

As for Warnock. I've said it before, he's been fantastic for us. His spirit last year alone was exactly what was required. However, with Givet now here, he becomes an asset worth cashing in on. His attacking instincts from left back may not be the order of the day under Sam. Clearly he wants to depoly attack minded wingers on either side. As such a left back intent on defending (namely Givet) will offer greater stability. Don't get me wrong, Warnock is one of the best left backs in the league. But for a good price £10+ i'd sell in a heart beat. That money could significantly improve our midfield. A side containing Givet at LB plus a decent CM is far more appealing to me than a side containing both Givet and Warnock vying for the same position.

[Zulu]

IF all this turns out to be true, i wouldn`t blame sam if he chose to walk out i`m afraid to say. he got screwed around similary by the bolton board and won`t want the same again.

Er, no he didn't.

[Denis_B]

And some sarky bugger on here yesterday suggested offering £2m to Villa for Ashley Young to ###### MON off--------------- well even that isn't available is it

[Manc Rover]

Strange one about Selgado flying in when we must have known his wage demands. However, I'd rather us live within our means than get saddled with debt by paying a right back silly money. Yes he's a good player but if we're gonna smash the wage threshold, at least do it with someone with a sell on value and for an offensive attacking player that can win us matches.

I like this frugal approach by Rovers. We've no investment and it's the only way we're going to compete/survive. Yes it's frustrating but it's a business at the end of the day!

[Kelbo]

Rovers have got to be careful here, cheap football is fine, but not if you are losing games and without a couple of addittions this will happen!!

The boards have got to realise, despite a great effort keeping prices down, if they dont put some money towards new players, which they clearly havent and things go pear shaped, all the new season tickets gained this year will be lost nerxt year!!

We simply cannot compets at premiership level with Andrews and Warnock in midfield, simple as that!!

[Mr. E]

This is getting fishy. I am no financial expert but money doesn't just magically disappear like that. "Banks", "investments"...give me a break. We bought Santa Cruz and Bentley for almost nothing and sold them for 30+ million. That is a massive bonus that couldn't have been planned to be invested in something else. What if they weren't good and we never sold them? And if it is true and we really need to rely on massive unexpected bonuses to stay afloat, then it's a sinking ship that can't be fixed.

However, I really don't believe it's that bad. We won't sell anyone big and we'll get another 1 or 2 bargain players, hopefully to strengthen the severely lacking midfield. At least on this account I think BFS will deliver. Trouble is the new season is 2 days away.

[gazsimm]

sam has spent his budget, he has just confirmed it on talk sport. We are skint!!!!

[modes98]

As much as i respect JW he should come out and explain to the fans what is happening.

IMO JW runs the club to survive and break even, as he now has to. There is no reason he should come out justify available transfer funds.

Sam obviously had a set budget and has spent it. If he wanted these additional players maybe he should have thought about that earlier. You can't moan about spending your budget, if the budget changes then fair enough but I don't think that has been mentioned. Either that or try to sell any players we don't need but I don't think we have many players worth shifting out apart from Gally, but his wages are high.

[stuwilky]

This is getting fishy. I am no financial expert but money doesn't just magically disappear like that.

Quite right it doesnt.

We borrow money to fund the fact that oeprationally we have lost a shedload of money each financial year bar one for as long asI can remember.

Then every now and then we sell a player for a lot of money and pay some of it back.

[alexanders]

Quite right it doesnt.

We borrow money to fund the fact that oeprationally we have lost a shedload of money each financial year bar one for as long asI can remember.

Then every now and then we sell a player for a lot of money and pay some of it back.

You never paid debt on a loan Mr.E?

[G Somerset Rover]

Someone answer me this then please:

How were we ever serious (in the past year or so we've had Nicko or other sources close to the club or even Sam confirm our interest) about signing the likes of Crouch, Bent, Cardoza or even Jones?

Judging by what is now being said by the club, after we spent around £6 million on Kalinic (not even all upfront and all of the above would have cost much more) our pot is now empty. So we could never have been in the market for a striker above £6 million? Sam was talking about how "if he have to we'll spend the whole budget on one top quality striker" and that we have done (I'm sure he said this after Givet was brought in). Maybe Sam didn't even believe that our 'pot' could be so low? Especially after reading Nicko's comments today.

Don't get me wrong, I'm happy with Kalinic, he seems a great prospect, but the fact is we could never have been in the running for 95% of the players that the media and sources that were close to the club linked us to.

[S15]

Somd of you lot are pretty stupid.

We run our football club correctly, and only spend money we have to spare. Yes this means we have to trade, or sell a prize asset to buy two new assets. But that's the correct way, and saves us going bust, and facing scenarios faced by the likes of Pompey currently.

Our squad is very big, with alot of players earning way too much money. This is a result of mistakes made is past regeimes, with Hughes giving alot of average players BIG contracts. People whinge on about us needing a new midfielder, but then the board can easily turn around and point out that we currently MGP, Reid, Emerton, Dunn, Grella, Warnock (Apparently), all on big money contracts, either close to or over £30,000 a week. Add to this the fact that Andrews has just been given a longer, hugher paid contract, and Sam has ALREADY BROUGHT IT TWO NEW MIDFIELDERS THIS SUMMER.

I struggle to think of any business where the money men wouldn't request one or two bodies be moved on before you be allowed to bring fresh faces in. Alot of people batter Ince at every opportunity, but the biggest money swellers in our squad were given out of propotion contracts by the manager before him.

[Guest Kamy100]

sam has spent his budget, he has just confirmed it on talk sport. We are skint!!!!

Did he talk about loan signings etc? Did he come across as peeved?

While it is disappointing that we cannot afford the players that Sam wants, Rovers cannot spend money that they do not have, the money received from the RSC transfer has been used to fund the activity this season and also a significant chunk taken by the bank. The Salgado thing was weird that he came across and they we told him that we did not want him.

[tcj_jones]

Someone answer me this then please:

How were we ever serious (in the past year or so we've had Nicko or other sources close to the club or even Sam confirm our interest) about signing the likes of Crouch, Bent, Cardoza or even Jones?

TBH mate, there's been nothing to suggest that we ever were seriously interested in these guys. In fact, Sam came out and said that Crouch was far too expensive an option. With Bent being on similar wages and commanding a similar fee, that was always the case with him as well.

It's frustrating that we only spent a fraction of the Roque / Derbs money but it was also very predictable. Ince's screw up cost the club a lot in league placement money and by establishing a wage bill that did not reflect our status in the league. This is one of the reasons I am so desperate to see the club slash the wage bill and not bring in unnecessary over-the-hill players like Rothen and Salgado.

[broadsword]

Deary me, we can't go into the season with our midfield as it is.

[Roversider]

sam has spent his budget, he has just confirmed it on talk sport. We are skint!!!!

What a hysterical reply, calm down. Skint is not a correct description, balanced position yes.

The squad is now pretty big and Sam needs to move some faces out before he brings anyone else in for a number of good reasons and cost is one of them. Even Mourinho felt he needed a reasonably tight squad to maintain team spirit when he delivered the Premiership. Its more about quality than quantity.

Also Sam will view Dunn, Grell, Reid and Emerton on medical reports and if they are ok we have four new midfielders!

No reason to go off and weep, plenty of players in. Bear in mind the performance levels after Sam came in and the squad of available players is definitely better than that he had to work with then. Two more fit strikers for a start.

Roll on City, apparantly their new Paraguayan is unfit

[Hughesy]

Astounding.

Last summer we sold Freidel and Bentley for around £20m and spent half of that. Where did that money go? And why on earth does no-one ask these questions?

We sold Friedel for £2.5m, and we sold Bentley for £15m (of which £7m went to Arsenal) - That gives us around £10m. We then signed Robbo (£3.5m), Grella (£4m), villanueva (750k loan fee), Andrews (£800k) - Id say that is pretty much spent wouldnt you? We then continued in Jan and took Diouf for £1m and Givet on loan.

Somd of you lot are pretty stupid.

We run our football club correctly, and only spend money we have to spare. Yes this means we have to trade, or sell a prize asset to buy two new assets. But that's the correct way, and saves us going bust, and facing scenarios faced by the likes of Pompey currently.

Our squad is very big, with alot of players earning way too much money. This is a result of mistakes made is past regeimes, with Hughes giving alot of average players BIG contracts. People whinge on about us needing a new midfielder, but then the board can easily turn around and point out that we currently MGP, Reid, Emerton, Dunn, Grella, Warnock (Apparently), all on big money contracts, either close to or over £30,000 a week. Add to this the fact that Andrews has just been given a longer, hugher paid contract, and Sam has ALREADY BROUGHT IT TWO NEW MIDFIELDERS THIS SUMMER.

I struggle to think of any business where the money men wouldn't request one or two bodies be moved on before you be allowed to bring fresh faces in. Alot of people batter Ince at every opportunity, but the biggest money swellers in our squad were given out of propotion contracts by the manager before him.

Excellent post

Dont forget people, in midfield we have MGP, Reid, Dunn, Grella, Emerton, Van Herden, Diouf, Andrews, NZonzi, Gally, Doran & also Warnock can play there. That is 12 options for midfield. Sam is fixing us, but with our resources & current midfield injuries there is only so much he can do at once.

Its simple, if we go crazy on wages & fees we end up in the deep brown stuff (See Sheff Weds, Leeds, Newcastle, Pompey & many more)

[tcj_jones]

Sorry if this has already been mentioned recently, but can somebody clarify what the situation is with Dunn and Grella? When are these guys reported to be available for first team selection again? If we were to keep Dunn fit all season, then we have a top ten side. Unfortunately, I cannot see that happening.

[Iceman]

Well something still aint right. We just spent some money on Salgado's dinner. If Sam knew what his budget was, and used all of it, then why bring Salgado over? You dont give somebody a budget and after using the entire budget still have time to have talks with more players. If Sam wants Warnock to stay, he would not even have told Vill to treble their offer. It does seem as if Sam is keen on Warnock being sold, to bring in some much needed funds. But why Warnock? If both Rothen and Salgado is on a free or cheap, then the wages would only have to be paid. The likes of Gally, Rigters etc should be taken off the wage bill instead.

[G Somerset Rover]

TBH mate, there's been nothing to suggest that we ever were seriously interested in these guys. In fact, Sam came out and said that Crouch was far too expensive an option. With Bent being on similar wages and commanding a similar fee, that was always the case with him as well.

I get what your saying - they were just name's that we'd been heavily linked to. I could be wrong but I just think that Sam maybe went for the less expensive option (Kalinic) thinking that if he did so there would be more cash left for a midfielder. And now the goalposts have been moved. Judging by Nicko's comments this could possibly have some truth in it.

I completely understand the need to ship out some players - we've got far too many average players in certain area's. If the board have said "get rid of a few before you can bring some in" then I can understand this.

I just get the feeling that Sam has a much smaller budget than he thought/hoped he would get.

[Hasta]

Sorry if this has already been mentioned recently, but can somebody clarify what the situation is with Dunn and Grella? When are these guys reported to be available for first team selection again?

Last I heard Grella was expected back 2010 and Dunn in 2013

[JAL]

sam has spent his budget, he has just confirmed it on talk sport. We are skint!!!!

We arent skint gazsimmm, its plusses and minuses. How to run the household bill, its a prompt to get a few of the deadwood players off the books before we see some new arrivals, sensible business if you ask me.

[Roversider]

I just get the feeling that Sam has a much smaller budget than he thought/hoped he would get.

Probably more around balancing wage costs and transfer fees. Lot of people forget the total cost of a player and simply look at the transfer fee alone.

Sam doesn't seem unhappy to me.