[Archived] Transfer Topic The Final Day

[Bobby G]

Maybe he was offered to Hull and Brown. They are pals arent they?

[Iceman]

Is transfer window closing tomorrow, or have they extended for 1 more day like last season?

[brian_gallagher85]

Tuesday 5pm I think

[rovers1995]

It closes on Tuesday at 5pm

[Florida Rover]

won't close until tues b/c of bank holiday,or so I have read discussed

[Iceman]

Tuesday 5pm I think

Thanks Brian

[RovertheHill]

The reason we have no money is that the club has been running itself on the last penny for the last few seasons and last season made them really see what it would have been like had they gone down, I am talking more leeds than charlton as well. Therefore coupled with the fact they realised spending around 75% of your turnover on wages (which is in the top 5 in the leage) is ridiculous, and they decided to reduce costs by around £50,000 a week or £2,600,000 a year and get rid of the bank debt, which was at around £13,000,000 and add to this the lost revenue in places which they had budgeted for (around £3,000,000) and you have around £16,000,000 this year which they wanted to reduce/remove.

The comes the maths:

Stephen Warnock +£7,000,000 & £35,000pw

Paul Gallagher + £750,000 & £15,000pw

Nick Blackman + £4,000pw for 5months

Alex Marrow + £350pw for 5 months

Gavin Gunning + £350pw for 5 months

Alan Judge + £2,000pw for 5 months

Mark Bunn + £4,000pw for 5 months

Keith Treacy + £7,000pw for 5 months

Josh O'Keefe + £350pw

Roque Santa Cruz + £17,000,000 & £50,000pw

Matt Derbyshire + £3,500,000 & £20,000pw

Jamie Clarke +£350pw

Dean Winnard +£350pw

Aaron Mokoena + £20,000pw

Andre Ooijer + £35,000pw

Tony Kane + £350pw

Tugay + £10,000pw

Pascal Chimbonda -£1,500,00 & £35,000pw

Michel Salgado - £40,000pw

Nikola Kalinic - £6,500,000 & £35,000pw

Franco Di Santo -£25,000pw for 5 months

Steven N'Zonzi - £500,000 & £7,000pw

Elrio van Heerden - £7,000 pw

Lars Jacobsen - £20,000pw

Gael Givet - £3,500,000 & £35,000pw

Bank Balance =

£250,000

Wages Balance =

Still -£50,000 so take that off the bank balance and we are still around £2,500,000 away from where we want to be, yes the money could be used, but is it worth risking our clubs life when we should still be safe, IF we looked in major trouble, or Big Sam thought we didnt have enough to survive then money vs risk would be reassessed.

Are these figures real or conjecture? If the former how is this in the public domain? (not having a go btw just asking - sh*t, how bad has this board become when you have to append stuff like that on?)

[spencey7]

Andrews was offered to a Premiership club last week and they declined the opportunity.

It was a manager to manager phone call and I know for an absolute fact it happened.

If this is true (and I have to say I doubt it is, unfortunately), then it's going to add some significant fuel to the fire for the "You-Don't-Know-What-You're-Doing" crowd.

Virtually every Rovers fan (or at least the VAST majority) has been able to see since the second he donned the shirt that Keith Andrews is nowhere near good enough to play in this league. Yet this summer we turn down an offer for him and give him a pay rise - before deciding to try and flog him.

What is going on?

[RovertheHill]

If this is true (and I have to say I doubt it is, unfortunately), then it's going to add some significant fuel to the fire for the "You-Don't-Know-What-You're-Doing" crowd.

Virtually every Rovers fan (or at least the VAST majority) has been able to see since the second he donned the shirt that Keith Andrews is nowhere near good enough to play in this league. Yet this summer we turn down an offer for him and give him a pay rise - before deciding to try and flog him.

What is going on?

It could be that JW promised Andrews the new contract and as a man of honour followed it through? Or maybe our crocks are coming back slightly ahead of schedule? Or of course the manager may have lost the plot? Who knows?

As a matter of interest but OT why has your username changed? What's the (and a half) bit mean?

[ebenrocks]

If this is true (and I have to say I doubt it is, unfortunately), then it's going to add some significant fuel to the fire for the "You-Don't-Know-What-You're-Doing" crowd.

Virtually every Rovers fan (or at least the VAST majority) has been able to see since the second he donned the shirt that Keith Andrews is nowhere near good enough to play in this league. Yet this summer we turn down an offer for him and give him a pay rise - before deciding to try and flog him.

What is going on?

do you even stop repeating yourself?

[RibbleValleyRover]

If this is true (and I have to say I doubt it is, unfortunately), then it's going to add some significant fuel to the fire for the "You-Don't-Know-What-You're-Doing" crowd.

Virtually every Rovers fan (or at least the VAST majority) has been able to see since the second he donned the shirt that Keith Andrews is nowhere near good enough to play in this league. Yet this summer we turn down an offer for him and give him a pay rise - before deciding to try and flog him.

What is going on?

Either Sam rates or him or JW is going ahead with his promise of a new deal because he featured a lot last season.

Managers have their reasons for picking certain players, just have to respect their decision i guess. I think Sam picks Andrews because he is fit every week and tries hard, i don't think he would feature much if every player was fit.

[Amo]

And so three people consecutively demean the point of the Ignore feature. Cheers, guys.

[American]

It could be that JW promised Andrews the new contract and as a man of honour followed it through? Or maybe our crocks are coming back slightly ahead of schedule? Or of course the manager may have lost the plot? Who knows?

As a matter of interest but OT why has your username changed? What's the (and a half) bit mean?

Has Ste written all over it. I think it is supposed to be his age.

[RovertheHill]

And so three people consecutively demean the point of the Ignore feature. Cheers, guys.

Sorry - but I haven't chosen to ignore him. You could always ignore him the old-fashioned way...

[spencey7]

As a matter of interest but OT why has your username changed? What's the (and a half) bit mean?

Good question!

Nothing to do with me. I assume it's an attempt at "humour" by one of the mods, however they might have remembered that humour relates to something being funny...

[Fylde Coast Fan]

If this is true (and I have to say I doubt it is, unfortunately), then it's going to add some significant fuel to the fire for the "You-Don't-Know-What-You're-Doing" crowd.

Virtually every Rovers fan (or at least the VAST majority) has been able to see since the second he donned the shirt that Keith Andrews is nowhere near good enough to play in this league. Yet this summer we turn down an offer for him and give him a pay rise - before deciding to try and flog him.

What is going on?

Maybe Sam knows what's obvious to most rational people - Andrews is a hard worker but his ability isn't up to competing at the top level. If you were Sam and were told "you can only buy if you sell", wouldn't you try and sell the least capable first? It's worth a punt getting Andrews out and someone else in, surely.

[nicko]

Capoue - the French midfield who came on trial - has just joined Auxerre on loan...

[tashor]

A customer enters a pet shop.

Mr. Praline: 'Ello, I wish to register a complaint.

(The owner does not respond.)

Mr. Praline: 'Ello, Miss?

Owner: What do you mean "miss"?

Mr. Praline: I'm sorry, I have a cold. I wish to make a complaint!

Owner: We're closin' for lunch.

Mr. Praline: Never mind that, my lad. I wish to complain about this parrot what I purchased not half an hour ago from this very boutique.

Owner: Oh yes, the, uh, the Norwegian Blue...What's,uh...What's wrong with it?

Mr. Praline: I'll tell you what's wrong with it, my lad. 'E's dead, that's what's wrong with it!

Owner: No, no, 'e's uh,...he's resting.

Mr. Praline: Look, matey, I know a dead parrot when I see one, and I'm looking at one right now.

Owner: No no he's not dead, he's, he's restin'! Remarkable bird, the Norwegian Blue, idn'it, ay? Beautiful plumage!

Mr. Praline: The plumage don't enter into it. It's stone dead.

Owner: Nononono, no, no! 'E's resting!

Mr. Praline: All right then, if he's restin', I'll wake him up! (shouting at the cage) 'Ello, Mister Polly Parrot! I've got a lovely fresh cuttle fish for you if you

show...

(owner hits the cage)

Owner: There, he moved!

Mr. Praline: No, he didn't, that was you hitting the cage!

Owner: I never!!

Mr. Praline: Yes, you did!

Owner: I never, never did anything...

Mr. Praline: (yelling and hitting the cage repeatedly) 'ELLO POLLY!!!!! Testing! Testing! Testing! Testing! This is your nine o'clock alarm call!

(Takes parrot out of the cage and thumps its head on the counter. Throws it up in the air and watches it plummet to the floor.)

Mr. Praline: Now that's what I call a dead parrot.

Owner: No, no.....No, 'e's stunned!

Mr. Praline: STUNNED?!?

Owner: Yeah! You stunned him, just as he was wakin' up! Norwegian Blues stun easily, major.

Mr. Praline: Um...now look...now look, mate, I've definitely 'ad enough of this. That parrot is definitely deceased, and when I purchased it not 'alf an hour

ago, you assured me that its total lack of movement was due to it bein' tired and shagged out following a prolonged squawk.

Owner: Well, he's...he's, ah...probably pining for the fjords.

Mr. Praline: PININ' for the FJORDS?!?!?!? What kind of talk is that?, look, why did he fall flat on his back the moment I got 'im home?

Owner: The Norwegian Blue prefers keepin' on it's back! Remarkable bird, id'nit, squire? Lovely plumage!

Mr. Praline: Look, I took the liberty of examining that parrot when I got it home, and I discovered the only reason that it had been sitting on its perch in the

first place was that it had been NAILED there.

(pause)

Owner: Well, o'course it was nailed there! If I hadn't nailed that bird down, it would have nuzzled up to those bars, bent 'em apart with its beak, and

VOOM! Feeweeweewee!

Mr. Praline: "VOOM"?!? Mate, this bird wouldn't "voom" if you put four million volts through it! 'E's bleedin' demised!

Owner: No no! 'E's pining!

Mr. Praline: 'E's not pinin'! 'E's passed on! This parrot is no more! He has ceased to be! 'E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker! 'E's a stiff! Bereft of life, 'e

rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed 'im to the perch 'e'd be pushing up the daisies! 'Is metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig! 'E's kicked the

bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!! THIS IS AN EX-PARROT!!

(pause)

Owner: Well, I'd better replace it, then. (he takes a quick peek behind the counter) Sorry squire, I've had a look 'round the back of the shop, and uh,

we're right out of parrots.

Mr. Praline: I see. I see, I get the picture.

Owner: I got a slug.

(pause)

Mr. Praline: Pray, does it talk?

Owner: Nnnnot really.

Mr. Praline: WELL IT'S HARDLY A BLOODY REPLACEMENT, IS IT?!!???!!?

Owner: N-no, I guess not. (gets ashamed, looks at his feet)

Mr. Praline: Well.

(pause)

Owner: (quietly) D'you.... d'you want to come back to my place?

Mr. Praline: (looks around) Yeah, all right, sure.

[mellison24]

gud stuff tashor!!

[deazel]

I think I will wet myself with excitement if we get can rid of Andrews and bring in Emana.

[Baz]

The reason we have no money is that the club has been running itself on the last penny for the last few seasons and last season made them really see what it would have been like had they gone down, I am talking more leeds than charlton as well. Therefore coupled with the fact they realised spending around 75% of your turnover on wages (which is in the top 5 in the leage) is ridiculous, and they decided to reduce costs by around £50,000 a week or £2,600,000 a year and get rid of the bank debt, which was at around £13,000,000 and add to this the lost revenue in places which they had budgeted for (around £3,000,000) and you have around £16,000,000 this year which they wanted to reduce/remove.

The comes the maths:

Stephen Warnock +£7,000,000 & £35,000pw

Paul Gallagher + £750,000 & £15,000pw

Nick Blackman + £4,000pw for 5months

Alex Marrow + £350pw for 5 months

Gavin Gunning + £350pw for 5 months

Alan Judge + £2,000pw for 5 months

Mark Bunn + £4,000pw for 5 months

Keith Treacy + £7,000pw for 5 months

Josh O'Keefe + £350pw

Roque Santa Cruz + £17,000,000 & £50,000pw

Matt Derbyshire + £3,500,000 & £20,000pw

Jamie Clarke +£350pw

Dean Winnard +£350pw

Aaron Mokoena + £20,000pw

Andre Ooijer + £35,000pw

Tony Kane + £350pw

Tugay + £10,000pw

Pascal Chimbonda -£1,500,00 & £35,000pw

Michel Salgado - £40,000pw

Nikola Kalinic - £6,500,000 & £35,000pw

Franco Di Santo -£25,000pw for 5 months

Steven N'Zonzi - £500,000 & £7,000pw

Elrio van Heerden - £7,000 pw

Lars Jacobsen - £20,000pw

Gael Givet - £3,500,000 & £35,000pw

Bank Balance =

£250,000

Wages Balance =

Still -£50,000 so take that off the bank balance and we are still around £2,500,000 away from where we want to be, yes the money could be used, but is it worth risking our clubs life when we should still be safe, IF we looked in major trouble, or Big Sam thought we didnt have enough to survive then money vs risk would be reassessed.

No offence, but theres no way you know those details.

Following the logic though, we nearly were relegated last season, by trying to cut costs surely we are almost sealing the fate whether it be this or the next 2-3 seasons we will get relegated if we sell our best players and dont re-invest into the team.

[Tris]

100 per cent true with the person in question now, no source names for obvious reasons

Andrews was offered to a Premiership club last week and they declined the opportunity.

It was a manager to manager phone call and I know for an absolute fact it happened.

So were you out drinking with Wenger or Rednkapp? It can't have been Hodgson because he was at Villa Park live on tv whilst you were hobnobbing with the "person in question" ...

[doctorryan]

It looks like Rothen has Schalke as a backup plan if we don't get our stuff together. Any idea of the fee 04 is paying Alan? What a shame if we don't step in and get it done.

[Silencio]

Why the hell did we not accept the 3 million for Andrews earlier in the summer if we are trying to get rid of him now?

[ABBEY]

Why the hell did we not accept the 3 million for Andrews earlier in the summer if we are trying to get rid of him now?

because us punters are not the experts...cmon thote same had taught us that