[Archived] Transfer Topic The Final Day

[Torgeir]

Anyone notice that Civelli has quietly 'slunk' back to Argentina?

Looks like San Lorenzo's daft money men have brought him onboard for 2009-10.

I guess Renato's been left to rue his hard stance on salary expectations.... silly bugger

The league there hasn't even started because of financial problems though [EDIT: Wrong! It has, soz bout that]

Still hopeful that we'll bring in a midfielder, but of course not expecting any more dealings unless Sam manages to shift a couple of players out during the weekend.

[thenodrog]

Samba out cannot be considered surely.

I think Benni out / attacking midfielder in would be an attractive proposition for our Glum chum.

Alan Smith would make sense if the mags would help with his wages. Either attacker or midfielder depending on circumstance with the kind of physical presence that SA admires so much.

Something has to be going on at ewood. The board are probably already planning the samba sale.

Nicko what do you think happen to all the money the club has made on transfers these past two seasons or is there anyway you can find out.

Atty Leave it out please. It's nothing to do with you, I nor anybody else other than the board and the Walker trust.

[thenodrog]

Because we were paying way, way too much in wages before they left. Now we're just paying too much. An improvement, sure, but our wage bill really was crippling before.

I think that the lack of spending is a calculated risk. The books have to be balanced at some stage, and the sooner we get rid of our debt, the fewer (And smaller) interest payments are due. One then needs to look at the state of the league. Under Sam we had (albeit barely) top-half form. From the players who actually played a part in that we've lost Ooijer, Warnock, Tugay and Mokoena. Ooijer and Warnock are adequately replaced by Salgado, Chimbonda and Jacobsen (And hopefully the return of Emerton), in fact it's an improvement in my mind. No more Olsson, Simpson or Andrews at the back! N'Zonzi looks like an improvement on Mokoena. Tugay's creativity is lacking, that's true, but as much as I love him, he wasn't the influential player last season that he once was.

Up front and on the wings we're stronger with the additions of Kalinic, Di Santo, Hoilett (Considering we only had Roberts and Benni for half the season. Roberts for less than that really). Robinson looks miles better now than he did for the first half of last season as well. Most of all, we have Allardyce for the whole season. He has his faults, but surely even his biggest critics (waggy excepted...) would rather have him than Ince?

I don't see us in the top half of the table, but I don't see us fighting for survival either. It's not a season to get excited about, but I see it as a rebuilding year. The more money we spend on reducing debt this year, and the more we reduce wages, the more money will be available for wages and transfers next year. That's plain to see for anyone who doesn't believe that money disappears into the pockets of JW or the trustees.

We'll also be rid of at least one of our big earners in central midfield (Reid, who's contract expires.. if he stays it'll be on much less than he is on now) and probably more. I don't believe for a second that Sam doesn't realise that the midfield needs strengthening. The problem is that Reid, Dunn, Grella, Andrews and Emerton are on a lot of money. Disproportionately so really, preventing us to spend even more there.

We've also seen a few signings of "projects" such as N'Zonzi, EvH, Kalinic, Hoilett (I know he was at the club already, but essentially he is a new arrival), and that Sam rates some of the youngsters like Doran. Like I said, all this to me points to rebuilding. A calculated risk that our current squad can keep us up, and that the savings made this year puts us on a sounder financial footing for the future.

One can agree or disagree of course, but I think it's the way to go. We'd all like the trust to invest more, a lot more, but at this time we need to operate under the assumption that we'll have to make do without any outside investment. Spending beyond our means is great if it results in success and a takeover. If it doesn't, we're screwed. I'm not even talking about Leeds-type excesses, even just losses of £3-4m a year will hurt us. More and more for every year that it goes on.

Good post Lathund. Strong on logic and reason without resort to childish reaction and girly emotions. You're in danger of talking too much sense for this thread.

[Kelbo]

Kelbo. Do you have any information that leads you to think we will be making a mind blowing signing?

I struggled to think of a realistic transfer that would be mind blowing until one popped into my head (the only one in my mind)

I'll not give up hope, that's what being a football fan is all about.

The only information I have is, and it came from three separate sources, tht Sam was going to be away 'On Business' a name was put to me and I am not going to look silly on here giving that name as it may be incorrect, but it would figure as I think some money has been put aside here!!

[leeb1980]

The only information I have is, and it came from three separate sources, tht Sam was going to be away 'On Business' a name was put to me and I am not going to look silly on here giving that name as it may be incorrect, but it would figure as I think some money has been put aside here!!

i'm new to this and been reading all these posts, ive seen what kelbo has been saying and if the player ive heard from sources close to the club is the same name he is thinking it will be good move for us as its an area sam has been having problems since the season started, and its also some1 we were linked to at the start off the transfer window ,but not been mentioned since.but i dnt wnt to name just incause im made to look stupid

[Anti-Dingle-Brigade]

I've got the name too, but I don't want to look stupid...

[deryck guyler's spoon]

Alan Smith would make sense if the mags would help with his wages. Either attacker or midfielder depending on circumstance with the kind of physical presence that SA admires so much.

Atty Leave it out please. It's nothing to do with you, I nor anybody else other than the board and the Walker trust.

Why would it be nothing to do with us? It's got everything to do with us.

[martonrover]

The only information I have is, and it came from three separate sources, tht Sam was going to be away 'On Business' a name was put to me and I am not going to look silly on here giving that name as it may be incorrect, but it would figure as I think some money has been put aside here!!

Someone who Sam's worked with before, perhaps?

[thenodrog]

Why would it be nothing to do with us? It's got everything to do with us.

How? Please explain why you think that dgs?

[Iceman]

Shikabala or Mohammad Zidan

[andyroversmad]

Do we have enough money left to buy Achile Emana ?

[martonrover]

Shikabala or Mohammad Zidan

Would've thought people would be happy to name them without fear of looking stupid.

Surely got to be somebody more high profile.

[beerwins]

i'm new to this and been reading all these posts, ive seen what kelbo has been saying and if the player ive heard from sources close to the club is the same name he is thinking it will be good move for us as its an area sam has been having problems since the season started, and its also some1 we were linked to at the start off the transfer window ,but not been mentioned since.but i dnt wnt to name just incause im made to look stupid

Well simply say midfielder , its not hard to say , repeat after me MID...FIELD...ER , names are not important as long as its some kind of name that oozes creativity , ipasslongio or watchmescorio or even tugay will do nicely.

[deryck guyler's spoon]

How? Please explain why you think that dgs?

Well, on a personal basis, I have invested thousands into the club in monetary terms down the years not to mention the effort to go to places like Plymouth, Exeter, Glasgow and Sofia. The club is my blood and that of my family. After my wife and daughter, my job and my friends the club is the most importatant thing my life. I have a huge emotional investment in Blackburn Rovers and the club is part of who I am.

I reckon that should do for starters.

[The Prof.]

Because we were paying way, way too much in wages before they left. Now we're just paying too much. An improvement, sure, but our wage bill really was crippling before.

I think that the lack of spending is a calculated risk. The books have to be balanced at some stage, and the sooner we get rid of our debt, the fewer (And smaller) interest payments are due. One then needs to look at the state of the league. Under Sam we had (albeit barely) top-half form. From the players who actually played a part in that we've lost Ooijer, Warnock, Tugay and Mokoena. Ooijer and Warnock are adequately replaced by Salgado, Chimbonda and Jacobsen (And hopefully the return of Emerton), in fact it's an improvement in my mind. No more Olsson, Simpson or Andrews at the back! N'Zonzi looks like an improvement on Mokoena. Tugay's creativity is lacking, that's true, but as much as I love him, he wasn't the influential player last season that he once was.

Up front and on the wings we're stronger with the additions of Kalinic, Di Santo, Hoilett (Considering we only had Roberts and Benni for half the season. Roberts for less than that really). Robinson looks miles better now than he did for the first half of last season as well. Most of all, we have Allardyce for the whole season. He has his faults, but surely even his biggest critics (waggy excepted...) would rather have him than Ince?

I don't see us in the top half of the table, but I don't see us fighting for survival either. It's not a season to get excited about, but I see it as a rebuilding year. The more money we spend on reducing debt this year, and the more we reduce wages, the more money will be available for wages and transfers next year. That's plain to see for anyone who doesn't believe that money disappears into the pockets of JW or the trustees.

We'll also be rid of at least one of our big earners in central midfield (Reid, who's contract expires.. if he stays it'll be on much less than he is on now) and probably more. I don't believe for a second that Sam doesn't realise that the midfield needs strengthening. The problem is that Reid, Dunn, Grella, Andrews and Emerton are on a lot of money. Disproportionately so really, preventing us to spend even more there.

We've also seen a few signings of "projects" such as N'Zonzi, EvH, Kalinic, Hoilett (I know he was at the club already, but essentially he is a new arrival), and that Sam rates some of the youngsters like Doran. Like I said, all this to me points to rebuilding. A calculated risk that our current squad can keep us up, and that the savings made this year puts us on a sounder financial footing for the future.

One can agree or disagree of course, but I think it's the way to go. We'd all like the trust to invest more, a lot more, but at this time we need to operate under the assumption that we'll have to make do without any outside investment. Spending beyond our means is great if it results in success and a takeover. If it doesn't, we're screwed. I'm not even talking about Leeds-type excesses, even just losses of £3-4m a year will hurt us. More and more for every year that it goes on.

A great post, Thank you! I've just put a similar post on another thread - if only some of the dreamers and the board would read this and get real. And the Rovers operational management team and act on it.

[tashor]

I've got the name too, but I don't want to look stupid...

I haven't got the name but I still look stupid ...................... ..................................

[SYRovers]

I'll quite literally blow my beans in my pants if we sign some quality for the middle of the park before transfer deadline..

[Jimmy Jupiter]

Well, on a personal basis, I have invested thousands into the club in monetary terms down the years not to mention the effort to go to places like Plymouth, Exeter, Glasgow and Sofia. The club is my blood and that of my family. After my wife and daughter, my job and my friends the club is the most importatant thing my life. I have a huge emotional investment in Blackburn Rovers and the club is part of who I am.

I reckon that should do for starters.

I've probably spent thousands in Tesco over the years, doubt it gives me any right to give their accounts the once over or have knowledge on where they plan to invest their profits.

[deryck guyler's spoon]

I've probably spent thousands in Tesco over the years, doubt it gives me any right to give their accounts the once over or have knowledge on where they plan to invest their profits.

Sorry Jimmy, but that's a really daft comment imo. If you equate supporting a football club with going to the supermarket I really dont know what you are doing posting on a football messageboard.

[thenodrog]

Well, on a personal basis, I have invested thousands into the club in monetary terms down the years not to mention the effort to go to places like Plymouth, Exeter, Glasgow and Sofia. The club is my blood and that of my family. After my wife and daughter, my job and my friends the club is the most importatant thing my life. I have a huge emotional investment in Blackburn Rovers and the club is part of who I am.

I reckon that should do for starters.

Doesn't count I'm afraid on the basis that so have 20000 others.

[deryck guyler's spoon]

Doesn't count I'm afraid on the basis that so have 20000 others.

I think we may have drifted off the point here. I was responding to your assertion that Rovers' accounts and the activities of the board/trust have nothing to do with us on this mb.

[broadsword]

Do we have enough money left to buy Achile Emana ?

I doubt we have enough "money" (increasingly becoming an abstract concept in the world of Blackburn Rovers) to buy a quarter of blackjacks and some penny chews.

[Jimmy Jupiter]

Sorry Jimmy, but that's a really daft comment imo. If you equate supporting a football club with going to the supermarket I really dont know what you are doing posting on a football messageboard.

I didn't equate it at all (although i'm very fond of Tesco's Vanilla cheesecakes). Point remains, just because someone really really really likes a business, doesn't mean they have access to their investment plans!

[leeb1980]

all i can say is salgado has put in a good word , and the player is interested in coming.

[Anti-Dingle-Brigade]

all i can say is salgado has put in a good word , and the player is interested in coming.

Yeh my sauces agree.