Silencio Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 This summer has seen the club generate a lot of money while spending very little. It's perfectly understandable that the club have chosen to reduce debts but I would argue that the extent to which they have done it has been unfair on the manager and to the detriment of the first team. It's clear that part of the reason the board have done this is that the squad and cost of wages is too high. In my opinion, the last few years have seen us be too generous with some of our players. We have handed out pay rises and extensions to average players like Roberts, Pedersen, Reid and even Andrews. I have been wondering how long some of these average and/or injury prone players have got left on their contracts. Surely a better way of cutting costs in the future would be to follow a policy of having a much smaller squad. We could still tie the better players down but just be a lot stricter with squad men like Roberts, Reid etc. Below is a list of players who I hope aren't on long contracts: Roberts: Has never been any good, moans at the ref all the time, can't trap a ball, can't finish. Pedersen: Might be improving a bit this season but I wouldn't offer anything new to him yet. I'm sure his wages are already high enough as they are. Reid: Shame he got so badly injured but surely we can't continue handing money to him for nothing? Nelsen: Some might not like this but he is on the decline and got put on a massive contract before his serious injury. Given his wages and our strength at the back I think someone younger and cheaper could replace him. Dunn: Still very talented but I hope any new contract would be strictly on a pay per play basis. EHD: Probably got a few years left but with Hoillet coming through and him having no pace or goal threat I think we could afford to lose him too. Sure his wages will be pretty high too. Benni: Obviously out of favour and on high wages. We might still get a fee for him if we sell soon but, if not, then I hope he won't be waiting around for years. Brown: Too short and can't kick. Bunn and Fielding are promising so we don't need him. Obviously, it would be good if we got cash offers for all the above but I won't be holding my breath. Does anybody have any idea how many years each player has left? They must be costing millions every year whilst offering little. It's essential that we begin to streamline our squad by getting the duds off the wage bill instead of selling our best players all the time. Then we can concentrate on bringing the youngsters through and we might even have the means to support our managers in buying players for the first team.
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rover6 Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 Not the names you mentioned but I believe that the contracts of Judge, Treacy and Hoilett expire this summer.
Silencio Posted August 30, 2009 Author Posted August 30, 2009 Not the names you mentioned but I believe that the contracts of Judge, Treacy and Hoilett expire this summer. I forgot that Hoillet's was expiring. What is going on there? He should be signed up immediately. If we lose him it will be another massive kick in the teeth to the fans.
1864roverite Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 Hoilett has already agreed a new deal, it just needs endorsing and was agreed in principle before his work permit hearing. Dunn/ Reid and MGP are all in the last year of their current deals. Roberts I beleive extended his deal last season so he has 3 years left. Benni - 2 and a half years left. EHD - 2 yrs left. Nelsen - 3 years (signed a new deal last year). Brown last year hopefully.
Big Fat Sam Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 My worry is what we will replace them with if they don't sign new contracts? some of those players would be very hard to replace if we only have wages to do it with and no fees because they all leave on frees.
Silencio Posted August 30, 2009 Author Posted August 30, 2009 Hoilett has already agreed a new deal, it just needs endorsing and was agreed in principle before his work permit hearing. Dunn/ Reid and MGP are all in the last year of their current deals. Roberts I beleive extended his deal last season so he has 3 years left. Benni - 2 and a half years left. EHD - 2 yrs left. Nelsen - 3 years (signed a new deal last year). Brown last year hopefully. Hoillet: Good news Dunn/Reid/MGP: Good news. Offer Dunn a pay per play and keep the other two hanging. Roberts: Can't remember him getting an extension. Was that under Ince or Sam? Shocking player, shocking decision. Benni: I like Benni but looks like we should sell him ASAP in that case. EHD: I thought he might have longer but we shoudln't look to extend him. Can't believe how much pace he has lost since his Bolton days. Nelsen: I heard that he was given 40,000 per week after the Portsmouth interest a few years back. He was worth it then but isn't now. Brown: Let it expire. Rigters: How long does he have left?
Silencio Posted August 30, 2009 Author Posted August 30, 2009 My worry is what we will replace them with if they don't sign new contracts? some of those players would be very hard to replace if we only have wages to do it with and no fees because they all leave on frees. It's been said that the reason Sam cannot spend the money he has received this summer is because there is no room on the wage budget. I'm not sure if this is true or not. Regardless, we cannot continue to continue paying out to players who are always injured or who are just plain short of the required ability.
Big Fat Sam Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 It's been said that the reason Sam cannot spend the money he has received this summer is because there is no room on the wage budget. I'm not sure if this is true or not. Regardless, we cannot continue to continue paying out to players who are always injured or who are just plain short of the required ability. If players get injured they get injured its part of the game. I hope the plan is to raise all this cash in anticipation of having a giant spending spree next summer, but if it is I'd like some now to pay for even a loan player without any more sales.
budha Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 According to my records: Robinson 2013 Samba 2012 Nelsen 2012 Emerton 2012 Dunn 2010 Benni 2011 Grella 2012 Pedersen 2010 Zurab 2011 Reid 2010 Andrews 2013 Diouf 2012 Givet 2013 Treacy 2010 Judge 2011 Olsson 2012 Roberts 2011 Brown 2011 Bunn 2012 Doran 2012 Gunning 2012 Jacobsen 2011 N'Zonzi 2013 van Heerden 2011 Hoilett 2010 Chimbonda 2011 Kalinic 2013 Salgado 2011 Fielding 2010 Rigters 2011
Big Fat Sam Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 Andrews has four years to run?? Isn't he 30 odd now?
RovertheHill Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 According to my records: Robinson 2013 Samba 2012 Nelsen 2012 Emerton 2012 Dunn 2010 Benni 2011 Grella 2012 Pedersen 2010 Zurab 2011 Reid 2010 Andrews 2013 Diouf 2012 Givet 2013 Treacy 2010 Judge 2011 Olsson 2012 Roberts 2011 Brown 2011 Bunn 2012 Doran 2012 Gunning 2012 Jacobsen 2011 N'Zonzi 2013 van Heerden 2011 Hoilett 2010 Chimbonda 2011 Kalinic 2013 Salgado 2011 Fielding 2010 Rigters 2011 Jeez, only a complete incompetent would give Rigters a contract until 2011. Sack the manager... oh, wait...
budha Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 Jeez, only a complete incompetent would give Rigters a contract until 2011. Sack the manager... oh, wait... Hughes gave him a 4 year deal at summer 2007. Andrews has four years to run?? Isn't he 30 odd now? He got a new contract couple of months ago.
Big Fat Sam Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 He got a new contract couple of months ago. But four years, 2 maybe three but until he's 34. WOW.
Amo Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 Andrews has four years to run?? Isn't he 30 odd now? He's 28.
Big Fat Sam Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 Thanks for that I was sure he was 30, 4 years at that age is fine.
Silencio Posted August 30, 2009 Author Posted August 30, 2009 Thanks for that I was sure he was 30, 4 years at that age is fine. It's fine if they are anywhere near good enough. Unfortunately, Keith Andrews is not. I wonder if he got a pay rise and how much he is on now...
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