[Archived] Burnley Home Game

[sambo]

Sambo (takes deep breath) the queue starts from the TO and then goes through the blue door nearby and snakes around the concourse......Stewards man the queues with batons and Tazar guns (breathe's out)

Haha

Thanks for your help, I just can't wait to go to my first game at the Turf!

5am taxi it is

[thenodrog]

We don't need to take the p!ss.

Just leave it to them

Coyle Pie

Samuel Cooke stepped in and Frank Carroll, the firm's director, promised to help the club's chairman out of their sponsorship fix.

They picked up the deal for "six-figures", a bargain compared to the multi-million pound ties of the major clubs.

Mr Carroll said that the promotion exposure to their firm is now "extremely valuable".

Extremely valuable? I've just made a mental note to cross the buggars off my fuel oil supply list.

[sambo]

So excited already for Burnley home and away!

I'll be disappointed if all the BBE aren't stood up, and hope to hear a rendition of 'Hark now hear'!

And is it advisable to get the coach away t'turd?

[SamDingle]

So excited already for Burnley home and away!

I'll be disappointed if all the BBE aren't stood up, and hope to hear a rendition of 'Hark now hear'!

And is it advisable to get the coach away t'turd?

As long as you don't sing 'Barmy Army'. I find it really intimidating.

It'll more than likely be 90 minutes of spotty teenagers chanting 'your mum's your dad' while filming each other on their pay as you go mobiles.

[sambo]

As long as you don't sing 'Barmy Army'. I find it really intimidating.

It'll more than likely be 90 minutes of spotty teenagers chanting 'your mum's your dad' while filming each other on their pay as you go mobiles.

Not as intimidating as when you scream, with phlegm firing and wild eyes, "@#/?S @#/?S" or "WE HATE @#/?S".... That really scares me.

Okay then, coming from you. You don't have any chavs playing the hard man.... isn't that what that Suicide youth is all about?

[Al]

We don't need to take the p!ss.

Just leave it to them

Coyle Pie

It's gonna crumble like Burnley's hopes of staying in the Premier League.

[American]

Alright Bob. Nah, it's very clear we're not going to go daft with wages etc. If the worst happens we'll not be heading for financial disaster and administration and on a headlong slump to League One which awaits many a Premier League side who've gambled everything just to stay up. So the pressure only comes from wanting to prove a point to everyone.

As for where the 40 points come from, I learned last season not to worry about the opposition, League or Cup. Just enjoy watching my team, the way we try and play and believe in OC. We'll get battered some weeks, no doubt about that, but there's also some dross in this league too, despite what Sky tells us.

We'll be fine.

And when you have 4-5 players out injured, you'll blame your bad finishing position on bad luck, forgetting the great luck with injuries you had this season to get up...

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

As long as you don't sing 'Barmy Army'. I find it really intimidating.

It'll more than likely be 90 minutes of spotty teenagers chanting 'your mum's your dad' while filming each other on their pay as you go mobiles.

How does it go again Sam.....''we are longside Burnley,we are the Longside Burnley,we are the Longside Burnley'' accompanied by the sight of your lot dancing in circles and clapping your little handies like some sort of barn dance ensemble!

HOOT! HOOT!

[BlueMonday]

How does it go again Sam.....''we are longside Burnley,we are the Longside Burnley,we are the Longside Burnley'' accompanied by the sight of your lot dancing in circles and clapping your little handies like some sort of barn dance ensemble!

HOOT! HOOT!

To the tune of duelling banjos.

[ABBEY]

As long as you don't sing 'Barmy Army'. I find it really intimidating.

It'll more than likely be 90 minutes of spotty teenagers chanting 'your mum's your dad' while filming each other on their pay as you go mobiles.

must be good being posh

[Majiball]

Nicko will you be getting a slice of Owens new Pie???????

I bet it takes pride of place on his mantle piece!!!

[longsiders1882]

Question for Sam et al. Looking at the fixtures, have you worked out where the 40 points are coming from yet? It's a bit daunting isn't it? Serious question.

(oh and Sam - I agree with you - that's a stupid "Priceless" gag you have there Ben - get players in to replace those two before we can start to "gloat")

Honestly Bob I've not dared to try and work it out - you are quite right about it being daunting. When the fixtures came out I started to look where our first points might come from - Stoke away is hard to call, first game and all that. If we didn't get anything there you shoot down the list and land on Sunderland at home - Sunderland with (allegedly) some new money and IMO a very good new manager..... and so it goes. As ever we will look to the usual suspects and hope to pick up points against those teams in the 'Prem 2' and 'Prem 3' mini leagues. So thats the Hulls, Stoke, other promoted teams etc etc.

It certainly won't be easy but hey, I've never seen us play in the top flight (and will probably struggle to see more than 5 games this season now with all our 'new' fans) so come what may I will try to enjoy it for what it is. I'm thinking of it a bit like the Big one at Blackpool. You sit in it all relaxed, then slowly climb up that hill think '######, did I actually pay for this torture' and then you zoom around, its over before you know it and no matter how much of your guts you left behind you can't wait to do it again.

Where is the quality in your team to suggest that you will be fine?

Thats a good question. Of course most of our team has not been tested at the top level but in terms of our current squad, who to watch out for I'd say Wade Elliot, Kevin MacDonald, Chris McCann maybe Paterson will step up and just possibly young Jay Rodriguez. Those are the ones who may just provide the quality. Of course the proof of the pudding is in the eating so until they are up against those Prem teams each week we won't know.

For me its all about fine margins. There is not much between the top half of the Championship and the bottom 2 thirds of the prem but its small differences that make it so hard - Keepers who will stretch just an extra 2 inch to make the save, strikers who will put is just 6 inches wider to stop the keeper, defenders who will just have the extra bit of acceleration to get back and make the challenge.

Come what may, I can't wait.

[dave birch]

Indeed, Longsiders, it's all about margins, and that other factor..... a little bit of luck.

[Blue n White Rover]

Thats a good question. Of course most of our team has not been tested at the top level but in terms of our current squad, who to watch out for I'd say Wade Elliot, Kevin MacDonald, Chris McCann maybe Paterson will step up and just possibly young Jay Rodriguez. Those are the ones who may just provide the quality. Of course the proof of the pudding is in the eating so until they are up against those Prem teams each week we won't know.

So basically, you're relying on 3 players (from which I would only rate Wade Elliot as a decent player) and two that MIGHT make the step up. Other than that, you are left with around 8 players that are not up to scratch. That is not enough for you to survive in the Premier League, say what you like but you know that for yourself.

You can enjoy it as much as you want, but come December time, you'll wish you were playing on a Friday night at Ninian Park

[longsiders1882]

A few dodgy refs decisions going our way would'nt go amiss either - especially on the 17/10/2009

[longsiders1882]

So basically, you're relying on 3 players (from which I would only rate Wade Elliot as a decent player) and two that MIGHT make the step up. Other than that, you are left with around 8 players that are not up to scratch. That is not enough for you to survive in the Premier League, say what you like but you know that for yourself.

You can enjoy it as much as you want, but come December time, you'll wish you were playing on a Friday night at Ninian Park

Thats not exactly what I was saying. The players listed were the ones I felt had a bit extra. Of the rest we are solid enough at the back but lack pace (and a right back). Against some teams they will be massively exposed, against others perhaps less so. We are a decent team and try to play football on the ground. That could be our undoing, then again who knows - we got goals from all over the park last season and maybe we can against some Prem opposition this term. Sure the likes of Man U, Liverpool, the big 4/5 teams will most likely hammer us into oblivion but there 14/15 other teams where we can try to take points.

Let me assure you that no matter what happens, come December I will be looking forward to the Christmas games without a thought for Ninian Park - I'll let the Geordies worry about those trips for this season.

[thenodrog]

Question for Sam et al. Looking at the fixtures, have you worked out where the 40 points are coming from yet? It's a bit daunting isn't it? Serious question.

It's not all that easy for us either Bob!

[den]

For me its all about fine margins. There is not much between the top half of the Championship and the bottom 2 thirds of the prem but its small differences that make it so hard - Keepers who will stretch just an extra 2 inch to make the save, strikers who will put is just 6 inches wider to stop the keeper, defenders who will just have the extra bit of acceleration to get back and make the challenge.

Good post Longsiders, you do credit to yourself with a good reasoned response.

I will take you to task with the above statement though - I think you might be surprised. Teams almost half way down the Championship on a par with the bottom 2/3rds of the Prem? No way.

The winners of the Championship, without adding considerably to their squads, are miles behind anything in the Prem. Remember, the West Brom's of this world have added to their Championship winning sides and still can't compete.

[Blue n White Rover]

Thats not exactly what I was saying. The players listed were the ones I felt had a bit extra. Of the rest we are solid enough at the back but lack pace (and a right back). Against some teams they will be massively exposed, against others perhaps less so. We are a decent team and try to play football on the ground. That could be our undoing, then again who knows - we got goals from all over the park last season and maybe we can against some Prem opposition this term. Sure the likes of Man U, Liverpool, the big 4/5 teams will most likely hammer us into oblivion but there 14/15 other teams where we can try to take points.

Let me assure you that no matter what happens, come December I will be looking forward to the Christmas games without a thought for Ninian Park - I'll let the Geordies worry about those trips for this season.

Although you say the rest of your team is capable of performing in the Premier League, it is clear for all to see that most of them are Championship quality. Would you disagree with that?

You would need to spend arounf £30-40 million on new players, with experience and quality to survive in this league. Similar to what Sunderland did a couple of seasons ago. Life at the top isn't as easy as it seems, a few bad desicions by the manager, and not enough quality in the team could really expose you. That should be your main concern right now, the fact you do not have quality. We found that out last season under Paul Ince, hence why we were struggling.

You are linked with likes of Jason Scotland, but do you really see him getting you 10 goals next season, he may be a handful for defenders, but then again, so is Jason Roberts and I don't see him taking the headlines.

[longsiders1882]

Good post Longsiders, you do credit to yourself with a good reasoned response.

I will take you to task with the above statement though - I think you might be surprised. Teams almost half way down the Championship on a par with the bottom 2/3rds of the Prem? No way.

The winners of the Championship, without adding considerably to their squads, are miles behind anything in the Prem. Remember, the West Brom's of this world have added to their Championship winning sides and still can't compete.

Stoke, Hull? Both survived. WBA, IMHO made one major mistake, they didn't add goals to their squad (yes, I know that is easier said than done.

To be fair, I didn't say they were on a par, just not a huge difference - maybe we can compromise and agree there is not a lot between the top 8 in the Championship and bottom 8 in the Prem?

Although you say the rest of your team is capable of performing in the Premier League, it is clear for all to see that most of them are Championship quality. Would you disagree with that?

You would need to spend arounf £30-40 million on new players, with experience and quality to survive in this league. Similar to what Sunderland did a couple of seasons ago. Life at the top isn't as easy as it seems, a few bad desicions by the manager, and not enough quality in the team could really expose you. That should be your main concern right now, the fact you do not have quality. We found that out last season under Paul Ince, hence why we were struggling.

You are linked with likes of Jason Scotland, but do you really see him getting you 10 goals next season, he may be a handful for defenders, but then again, so is Jason Roberts and I don't see him taking the headlines.

I'm not honestly saying the rest of our team are capable of performing in the Prem because I honestly don't know if they can or not. A few astute additions and who knows. We also have to balance ambition with reality. However you slice it, promoted teams, especially via the play offs, have a habit of coming back down. Sure we can put the blinkers on if we wish but as a club we have to get the best balance we can between having a shot at staying up whilst not crippling the club should we go back down. Not easy but not impossible.

As for Scotland, if I'm honest I'd rather not sign him but the manager knows him well, knows his capabilities so if the price is right and the manager wants him then I'm happy to back him.

[SamDingle]

You can enjoy it as much as you want, but come December time, you'll wish you were playing on a Friday night at Ninian Park

Not much will be happening at Ninian Park next season.

[ABBEY]

Not much will be happening at Ninian Park next season.

wish he said ...doh!

[den]

Stoke, Hull? Both survived. WBA, IMHO made one major mistake, they didn't add goals to their squad (yes, I know that is easier said than done.

To be fair, I didn't say they were on a par, just not a huge difference - maybe we can compromise and agree there is not a lot between the top 8 in the Championship and bottom 8 in the Prem?

My comments Longsider, were about you saying that the bottom two thirds of the Prem are not much different to the top half of the Championship. After promotion and investment, that might change. Evidence over recent seasons points to the top Championship clubs, even after investment, still not being as good as the bottom two thirds of the Premier league. I suspect that the days of Burnley fans convincing themselves that there wasn't much between our two clubs linger on. For your sake, I hope your club doesn't fall for that.

Stoke and Hull both invested in their squad when they were promoted. Stoke have a way of playing that served them well last season - Hull escaped by the skin of their teeth.

[CAPT KAYOS]

I find it amusing and ironic of Rovers posters on here appearing to be more worried and concerned about Bunleh than the actual clarrotts themselves

Its quite evident they are aware of certain factors but IMO are taking things as they come and even though this may be naive in one respect its refreshing in another and relects in a confidence in their team. Sounds to me they are of the aspect if they stay up they stay up - if they go do down they go down.

Wish I could feel as confident about Rovers - not saying we will be any worse than Bunleh but still not confident we will not have something much better than the season just gone.

[SamDingle]

Sounds to me they are of the aspect if they stay up they stay up - if they go do down they go down.

'Tis true, Capt.

Stoke looked average if organised on their way to promotion from the Championship. Their biggest investment was on Kitson who flopped.

They then finished above your lot last season and avoided relegation comfortably, after winning just 4 points in the first 7 games.

I'll agree it's a tough league, but some of the hype you hear on here... you've been subscribing to Sky for too long.