[Archived] Burnley Home Game

[b12_simon]

Wouldnt mind watching Burnley now and again but with the away fans ..(purely as a neutral observer of course)..Wonder if tickets would be obtainable..

There'll be 100,000 locked out every home game!

[Gav]

Wouldnt mind watching Burnley now and again but with the away fans ..(purely as a neutral observer of course)..Wonder if tickets would be obtainable..

[philipl]

We had a good footballing side anyway, just lacked a bit of pace at the back, particularly right back, and maybe up top. These are the first things OC has rectified.

As each day passes and we add more hungry young players to the squad while everyone else packs out their squads with half-arsed Carlos Kickaballs on crazy wages the more hopeful I get.

Championship at the very best now for us.

only needed four letters

[imy9]

We had a good footballing side anyway, just lacked a bit of pace at the back, particularly right back, and maybe up top. These are the first things OC has rectified.

As each day passes and we add more hungry young players to the squad while everyone else packs out their squads with half-arsed Carlos Kickaballs on crazy wages the more hopeful I get.

Champions League at the very least now for us.

I actually feel that Fletcher is the best young striker in European football, Messi (who is a similar age) is vastly overrated in a poor Spanish league, compared to the standard of the Scottish top flight. Surely Real beckons for £80 million next year.

Mears is the best signing of the lot, Burnley were rumoured to be competing with Man City for his signature but signed because of the spending power of Burnley and the promise of attractive football from OC.

I think Burnley are definite contenders for the title this season, they proved (by finishing in the top 6 in the Championship) what an incredible side they are and the new signings have swayed me to believe they will win the title.

Sam you have me convinced

[rovgers]

Champions League at the very least now for us.

With comments like that, are you sure that you've not been round to the padiham predator's house for one of his POT plants!!

The Padiham Pothead!

[Blue blood]

Sam's obviously on a wind up - I know that the average Burnley fan is gifted if they have more than one brain cell, but even they aren't that deluded.

He does however make a good point that Coyle seems to be shoring up their weaknesses. Whether this is with good enough quality for the Premiership is debatable, but he is improving the team. Personally I'm not sure it's enough, but then who better would burnley get?

One weakness that Coyle will struggle to address is adding premier league experience. That is veterans/experienced players who've been in relegation scraps and can handle the pressure. Such players won't come cheap, and is a big lack in the Burnley side. If - sorry when - the dingles go on a bad run I can't see too many (premiership) experienced heads there to steady the ship and keep grafting and playing their natural game. I think this was one of the reasons that Hull struggled so much, that for many of the squad a premiership relegation battle was new territory, and hence confidence seemed to be severely affected.

[longsiders1882]

We had a good footballing side anyway, just lacked a bit of pace at the back, particularly right back, and maybe up top. These are the first things OC has rectified.

As each day passes and we add more hungry young players to the squad while everyone else packs out their squads with half-arsed Carlos Kickaballs on crazy wages the more hopeful I get.

Champions League at the very least now for us.

hlaf arsed Carlos Kickaballs - I like it

Sam's obviously on a wind up - I know that the average Burnley fan is gifted if they have more than one brain cell, but even they aren't that deluded.

He does however make a good point that Coyle seems to be shoring up their weaknesses. Whether this is with good enough quality for the Premiership is debatable, but he is improving the team. Personally I'm not sure it's enough, but then who better would burnley get?

One weakness that Coyle will struggle to address is adding premier league experience. That is veterans/experienced players who've been in relegation scraps and can handle the pressure. Such players won't come cheap, and is a big lack in the Burnley side. If - sorry when - the dingles go on a bad run I can't see too many (premiership) experienced heads there to steady the ship and keep grafting and playing their natural game. I think this was one of the reasons that Hull struggled so much, that for many of the squad a premiership relegation battle was new territory, and hence confidence seemed to be severely affected.

The manager has been clear - we won't be signing any of those. The manager has said that they may help for one season but then you are starting again each year. He's buying and backing youth. Sure may not be enough to keep us up but who knows. Whilst not prem experience we have plenty of experience in the squad with Alexander, Blake plus a couple of others who can be the steadying influence we need. It going to be one hell of a ride and we all know the likely destination. That said there will be some great little stations to stop off at on route and who knows, maybe we will get diverted just towards the end of the journey and turn up where nobody was expecting us?

[Moorey]

If Nicko is reading this, anything doing on the transfer front down Turf Moor way?

[braddock]

Just out of interest, how long do you guys see Coyle staying for as soon as a bigger club comes in for him given the fact it took him till a couple of days after celtic appointed a manager to sign a new deal, not to mention his history of jumping ship and the slim chances of burnley being able to stop in the premiership for longer than two years?

[BRFCGrez]

Just out of interest, how long do you guys see Coyle staying for as soon as a bigger club comes in for him given the fact it took him till a couple of days after celtic appointed a manager to sign a new deal, not to mention his history of jumping ship and the slim chances of burnley being able to stop in the premiership for longer than two years?

I think their manager is a class act, look what he did last season. A squad that could possibly have got a top 10 finish (I reckon a lot of Burnley fans would have been happy with that at the start of the season) have ended up in the Premier League. Whether he'd leave - I don't know, I don't know enough about him, but I think they could be a yo-yo club, very similar to West Brom. They won't do a Derby, though.

[Blue blood]

The manager has been clear - we won't be signing any of those. The manager has said that they may help for one season but then you are starting again each year. He's buying and backing youth. Sure may not be enough to keep us up but who knows. Whilst not prem experience we have plenty of experience in the squad with Alexander, Blake plus a couple of others who can be the steadying influence we need. It going to be one hell of a ride and we all know the likely destination. That said there will be some great little stations to stop off at on route and who knows, maybe we will get diverted just towards the end of the journey and turn up where nobody was expecting us?

A well reasoned reply, but I think that Coyle is in error on this for several reasons. Firstly experienced doesn't need to be 34/35 with one season left in them, there can, and will probably be, players in their early 30s who are able to do this job for a couple of years. Secondly if you did stay up (a horrible thought) even if you did just get the one season out of them, in terms of the revenue etc. that you would get they'd have more than paid for themselves. They'd leave the club in a much better position.

As for the likes of Blake and Alexander a premiership relegation battle is a bit different to a lower league relegation battle in numerous ways. Firstly the media spotlight is immense, adding much more pressure than a relegation battle from league 1 for example. Not all managers/players/fans/chairmen cope as well under this intense pressure. Secondly, for the players although the pressure to perform is on, their long term career isn't always at risk - indeed many of the talented players will be picked up, or as in newcastle's case they can sit tight on their massive wages, where they are doesn't really bother them. This presents yet more problems for the management in terms of getting the team motivated and performing. I realise this may be the case to a lesser extent lower down the leagues but feel it is on a much greater scale and provides more challenges in the premiership. And that's before the quality of the opposition is considered.

[longsiders1882]

Just out of interest, how long do you guys see Coyle staying for as soon as a bigger club comes in for him given the fact it took him till a couple of days after celtic appointed a manager to sign a new deal, not to mention his history of jumping ship and the slim chances of burnley being able to stop in the premiership for longer than two years?

I didn't realise he had a record for jumping ship, nor indeed that it was a fact that he signed his new deal 'a few days' after Celtic had appointed somebody else. Also not sure why our chances of stopping in the Premier League more than 2 years are especially slim - I'd imagine if we can survive this season (I agree, slim chance) then future survival becomes arguably a little easier.

But, to address your main point about Coyle going. Without any shadow of a doubt if the right offer came along at the right time he'd go - which manager wouldn't. I guess then it all comes down to what the club in question can offer - not so much in terms of money but more opportunity and development. Assuming it is not Liverpool or Man Utd knocking at the door, or one of the other bigger 5/6 clubs then I'd imagine an ambitious chap like Coyle would see them as a stepping stone to bigger things, in which case he will want to be sure they offer the right platform for him - just my view of course.

I cannot imagine many Prem teams wanting to take a punt until he has done at least a season with us in the Prem, get a real feel of what he is about. After that if he is getting interest then he must be doing a good job with us. I'd be sad to see him go but I'm not so naieve that I cannot see that if he is relatively succesful with us it will ultimately lead to him moving onto a bigger club - and no offence but by that I don't mean a Blackburn/Bolton or Wigan, more a Spurs, Villa size.

Onto the football, a relegation scrap is relatively the same whatever league you are in with the obvious exception of the media coverage. Players are struggling etc etc etc. If the right players were available, within our budget and willing to come I am sure Coyle would bring them in. Truth is players are either out of our price range, unwilling to come and often both. So we cut our cloth and see where we end up.

[Ricky]

Quick question to our 6 toed friends

It may have been mentioned previously but i'm not reading back 50 pages to find out. Did that strange free season ticket thing kick in this season for you. I remember a while ago Burnley came out and said if they got promoted within 1 or 2 seasons they'd give people who bought a ticket at that time a free one for the Prem...... how we laughed

[deryck guyler's spoon]

I follow Scottish football a bit and remember Coyle being bigged up by some Scottish journos on a podcast so I wasn't best pleased when you got him. He saw you as a jump up from St Johnstone and is clearly an ambitious guy.

I think you could be alright though. I dont see the likes of Moyes, Redknapp or O'Neill moving on any time soon. The Barcodes would have been your biggest threat if they had stayed up.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

Burnley fans have to still pay up front for their ticket but are refunded later on.Looks like they will shift all the 16,500 season tickets they are selling.And to think they won promotion with an average crowd of just over 13,000!

Just one question to ask.....WHERE WERE YOU WHEN YOU WERE SHYTE!!!!!!!!

[3rdpillar]

Wouldnt mind watching Burnley now and again but with the away fans ..(purely as a neutral observer of course)..Wonder if tickets would be obtainable..

I used to go in away end when Knob Enders played their, ex Bro in Law was a Preston fan and a dingle baiter.

Excellnt release of tension.

[SamDingle]

Just one question to ask.....WHERE WERE YOU WHEN YOU WERE SHYTE!!!!!!!!

At Tesco mostly. Occasionally B&Q.

[yorkyclaret]

At Tesco mostly. Occasionally B&Q.

Shame a few on here don't get your humour, Sam.

Anyway, it seems to me we are going for long term signings, as if we expect to go down this season but be in a strong possition to get back before the parachute payments end. The infastructure should be improved by then and the club would certainly be more ready for it, this time it has clearly come as a surprise to the board. As someone said earlier we would then expect to be a yo-yo West Brom type club for a while then when the infastructure is ready do a Bolton and stick up here.

I really don't have worries about Coyle leaving, he is said to be happy here and his family settled in the area, guess Bolton would always be a pull for him but anyway it's got to be better than having a manager nobody else wants.

[thenodrog]

With comments like that, are you sure that you've not been round to the padiham predator's house for one of his POT plants!!

The Padiham Pothead!

He says they weren't his! Must have been Ranulf's then I guess.

[yorkyclaret]

He says they weren't his! Must have been Ranulf's then I guess.

He says they weren't his!

Must have been a plant then.

[ABBEY]

He says they weren't his! Must have been Ranulf's then I guess.

ha was he hiding when the plod came again.

[AlanK]

Burnley fans have to still pay up front for their ticket but are refunded later on.Looks like they will shift all the 16,500 season tickets they are selling.And to think they won promotion with an average crowd of just over 13,000!

Just one question to ask.....WHERE WERE YOU WHEN YOU WERE SHYTE!!!!!!!!

The same place we were and any other bunch of fans were when we were shyte. In the pub. At home. In Woolies. We are not going to win the prem again in a million years, Having our neighbours around has just made things interesting again.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Shame a few on here don't get your humour, Sam.

Anyway, it seems to me we are going for long term signings, as if we expect to go down this season but be in a strong possition to get back before the parachute payments end. The infastructure should be improved by then and the club would certainly be more ready for it, this time it has clearly come as a surprise to the board. As someone said earlier we would then expect to be a yo-yo West Brom type club for a while then when the infastructure is ready do a Bolton and stick up here.

I really don't have worries about Coyle leaving, he is said to be happy here and his family settled in the area, guess Bolton would always be a pull for him but anyway it's got to be better than having a manager nobody else wants.

Why are the words Sam and Humour in the same sentence ? He's as funny as being whipped. As for Coyle he'll be happy right up to the minute a bigger club comes in ( there are bigger clubs than Burnley so I'm told ), then he won't be happy and off he'll pop.

[jim mk2]

As for Coyle he'll be happy right up to the minute a bigger club comes in ( there are bigger clubs than Burnley so I'm told ), then he won't be happy and off he'll pop.

I would suggest Celtic is a somewhat larger club than Burnley yet he rejected their advances only a few weeks ago to stay at Turf Moor.

[cletus]

I would suggest Celtic is a somewhat larger club than Burnley yet he rejected their advances only a few weeks ago to stay at Turf Moor.

Bigger club yes, but crap league & very little money to spend in it. Not many bosses have the opportunity to have a crack at the big time. If Eric does well (& i hope he doesn`t), he`ll soon be snapped up by a more worthy, ambitious & proper premier league club.....thus leaving Bumley to regain their rightful place in the lower leagues.