[Archived] Burnley Home Game

[Kelbo]

Some interesting comments on here, firstly, someone mentioned about fortress Turf Moor, I believe Burnley to be a much better away team and their points total shows that.

Secondly, they are a very good championship team and could surprise a few people next year providing they can attract the right players and pay them premiership wages, this is where they may have a problem. It has been said that they will not throw silly wages at players, that is sound in principle but if two clubs are going for the same player and one is paying much more in wages, who will the player choose??

Owen Coyle has done wonders with his team, got them playing without fear and with lots of belief and please dont take it as a foregone conclusion we will stuff them next year, it may be much tougher than you think!!

I do agree that several of their players are not of Premiership ability and three or four too old, but a three/four inspired signings could make a difference, getting them of course isa different matter.

I congratulate them on a great season, they have earned their success and despite Sheffield United being one of the worst teams I have seen for some time, Burnley fully deserved the result, despite the penalties that should have been given!!

So let battle commence, let the best team win, but over the season, not just the two games!!

Arte et Labore

[ABBEY]

jees what a ###### day ive had..in colne and rawenstall...talk about inbred glory hunting prats.

30 years .

[Montfort]

No matter what any dreamers think it is not good commercially for BRFC. The local 'cake' can only be split in so many ways and with our situation surrounded by strong local rivals this can only be big time bad.

Whilst I see where you are coming from, this may actually be the incorrect interpretation. What you are saying only works if we have hit market saturation or we have a fixed target population. The rivalry could just increase interest, stimulate the market and encourage the marginally interested to come along to matches. This is seen when the size of the crowd to say a play off final is far greater than the average gate

[Kelbo]

jees what a ###### day ive had..in colne and rawenstall...talk about inbred glory hunting prats.

30 years .

You think thats tough, I live in Colne with the B*******

[MI ROVER]

Coyle odds on favourite for Celtic job according to the latest odds on Sky news. One good thing about it they may be able to afford some up to date charablancs for their visit to Ewood this time . They've got some good 'uns in the transport museum.

If Coyle has any sense he needs to be ruthless and go to Celtic. Remember Boothroyd and to some extent Davies in recent yrs touted for bigger clubs than who they won promotion with, Davies was on his ear after 12 games Boothroyd failed to return after relegation with Watford and left - currently out of work. Look at all the talk about Phil Brown back in November and then won 1 in 22 and lucky to survive relegation his stock is just about the same level at this time last yr if not lower after blasting players on the pitch masterstroke not. Unless Coyle will be given a huge injection of cash he has a massive job at Burnley building a squad for a 38game premier lg season. Alexander is 37 and played in all 61games yesterday not even the legend Tugay could play at premier league level any longer consistently and we only asked for a 1/3 of the season.

It would be funny if all the Burnley tears of joy turned to despair when their hero walks away !! Coyle your time is now move when you are on the up - pickup the phone to Steve Bruce he has the right ideas and will offer good advice as soon he will do the dirty on our mate Dave Whelan.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

I'd say Brown's stock is much lower now than it was this time last year. He's one of my favourites to be the first Premier League manager to be sacked after what's his name at Portsmouth.

Coyle needs to be careful on this one , I've been watching football since 1960 and I can tell you one thing - Burnley fans are among the most fickle there are, win two games and it's " We're winning the league", lose two and it's " Sack the manager."

There's absolutely no way they'd do a West Brom and stick with the manager if they're bumping along the bottom all season, which is likely.

[Kelbo]

I'd say Brown's stock is much lower now than it was this time last year. He's one of my favourites to be the first Premier League manager to be sacked after what's his name at Portsmouth.

Coyle needs to be careful on this one , I've been watching football since 1960 and I can tell you one thing - Burnley fans are among the most fickle there are, win two games and it's " We're winning the league", lose two and it's " Sack the manager."

There's absolutely no way they'd do a West Brom and stick with the manager if they're bumping along the bottom all season, which is likely.

I really think you may be wrong on this one, I also think Coyle will stick with Bumley and vice versa!!

Burnley have got promotion a year too early, they will stick with Coyle I feel, even if they go down!!

For me he is the best manager outside the top flight by miles and I think he could do OK in the premiership, providing he

has some money to work with, I hope I am wrong, but this guy is a great motivator and can bring a dressing room together.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

I really think you may be wrong on this one, I also think Coyle will stick with Bumley and vice versa!!

Burnley have got promotion a year too early, they will stick with Coyle I feel, even if they go down!!

For me he is the best manager outside the top flight by miles and I think he could do OK in the premiership, providing he

has some money to work with, I hope I am wrong, but this guy is a great motivator and can bring a dressing room together.

You've mentioned the magic word " Money". He's done well and they seem to have good team spirit but the hard part is keeping that spirit when you've got to attract proven Premier League players with their proven Premier League attitudes and their proven Premier League wages/life styles. Eagles is a case in point. Their big signing last year from the Red Rats, they sold the pictures off the wall to pay for him. He's on the bench , a bit part player now, they'd be lucky to even get their money back . You can get away with it once but not when you're bringing 5 or 6 in.

Simple Sam and Co think they've done the hard bit but the hard bit just started today.

[Exiled in Toronto]

I can`t believe the level of fear on here!?!

Me neither. Frightened of relegation, frightened we might lose to Burnley of we have to play them - good examples of how for everyone outside the top 6, the PL just generates fear. Well before Xmas, Burnley fans will have lost their shining optimism and be frightened it's all going to go t!ts up.

But I also can't believe the arrogance of some of our fans - 'none of theirs would get on our bench, no good goals' etc. I only saw them 3 times but I would take Paterson over Pedersen 100 times out of a 100. I also thought their Wembley goal was one we have been incapable of scoring for years now. A player with pace (imagine that), running at a defence (imagine that) being backed up by another surging runner (imagine that) and a measured finish from 20 yards plus. How many of those do we score?

We will beat them easily if Sam recognises the glaring weaknesses in our team, buys well, and puts out teams that have variety to their play. We won't if we think we just have to turn up with the current shower punting 80 long balls at a lumbering centre half. We didn't manage to win any of the 8 games against WBA, Middlesboro, Sunderland or Coventry so I don't think there's anyone we can assume we will steamroller.

Having said all that, I would hope we get the value for our 40 million salary budget compared to their ten bob

[Guest benmaxwell]

Does it make anyone else laugh when Burnley report that a quarter/half of the town went out to support them at Burnley. That's why they sold so many tickets at Wembley. How do they know this, do they tag people and make a note of it or something.

My impression of the Wembley crowd yesteday was that their were allot of neutral fans in both sections who just went to see a match at Wembley...

If they have such huge fan support, why are they having to give 6 and a half thousand season tickets away in what could very well be a lone season in the Premier League? They are literally tossing £2 million away for the sake of it?! That decision has effectively made Turf Moor a 16 thousand seater for the rest of the season?!

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Me neither. Frightened of relegation, frightened we might lose to Burnley of we have to play them - good examples of how for everyone outside the top 6, the PL just generates fear. Well before Xmas, Burnley fans will have lost their shining optimism and be frightened it's all going to go t!ts up.

But I also can't believe the arrogance of some of our fans - 'none of theirs would get on our bench, no good goals' etc. I only saw them 3 times but I would take Paterson over Pedersen 100 times out of a 100. I also thought their Wembley goal was one we have been incapable of scoring for years now. A player with pace (imagine that), running at a defence (imagine that) being backed up by another surging runner (imagine that) and a measured finish from 20 yards plus. How many of those do we score?

We will beat them easily if Sam recognises the glaring weaknesses in our team, buys well, and puts out teams that have variety to their play. We won't if we think we just have to turn up with the current shower punting 80 long balls at a lumbering centre half. We didn't manage to win any of the 8 games against WBA, Middlesboro, Sunderland or Coventry so I don't think there's anyone we can assume we will steamroller.

Having said all that, I would hope we get the value for our 40 million salary budget compared to their ten bob

We've scored goals like that until this season, Bentley, Tugay and Dunny and even Reidy ( when fit ) were all capable of goal in that manner. This season's been a nightmare, thanks in the main to Ince, but at least it's been against top class opposition. The Dingles got lucky with Reading and The Blades. Both managers are on their way out after lack lustre performances , that says it all for me.

[jim mk2]

The Dingles got lucky with Reading and The Blades. Both managers are on their way out after lack lustre performances , that says it all for me.

They didn't get lucky in the cup games against Spurs, Arsenal and Chelsea. Would you have backed Rovers to achieve those results ?

I thought Burnley were very impressive at Wembley against an admittedly poor Blades team. They had pace, skill, passed the ball well and looked tight at the back.

Having said all that I think they will struggle next season. Their squad is ageing and it only needs a few injuries to key players and a loss of form and the rot will set in. I think we'll beat them home and away - even with our current limited set of players.

[Hughesy]

Until the day you can beat Rovers Samuel consider yourselves well and truly owned.....we own the bragging rights,Rovers are the top boys around here and have been for many,many a year.

You wont have long to wait until we remind you again of those painful facts.

+1 mate - BRING IT ON!!

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

They didn't get lucky in the cup games against Spurs, Arsenal and Chelsea. Would you have backed Rovers to achieve those results ?

I thought Burnley were very impressive at Wembley against an admittedly poor Blades team. They had pace, skill, passed the ball well and looked tight at the back.

Having said all that I think they will struggle next season. Their squad is ageing and it only needs a few injuries to key players and a loss of form and the rot will set in. I think we'll beat them home and away - even with our current limited set of players.

They looked tight at the back because the Blades just kept launching the ball up front to Beattie who's not a natural target man especially when he's on his own. The one time he got a good ball , in the second half, he turned Carlisle who then gave a great impression of a man running in treacle, He's slower than Amoruso and I never thought I'd say that again. Almost as soon as Sheff U went two up at the front they started to look dangerous. Then Ward got himself sent off and it's back to Beattie on his own again. Don't get carried away Jim, bad as we've been we're still a step up from that class of football.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

They looked tight at the back because the Blades just kept launching the ball up front to Beattie who's not a natural target man especially when he's on his own. The one time he got a good ball , in the second half, he turned Carlisle who then gave a great impression of a man running in treacle, He's slower than Amoruso and I never thought I'd say that again. Almost as soon as Sheff U went two up at the front they started to look dangerous. Then Ward got himself sent off and it's back to Beattie on his own again. Don't get carried away Jim, bad as we've been we're still a step up from that class of football.

I forgot to add. They got well and truly dicked at Spurs, even at home as soon as Spurs realised they had a game on their hands they managed to pull the game out of the fire. I didn't see the Arse game but the Arse were slap bang in the middle of a bad run at the time. I did see the Chelsea highlighs and Chelsea should have buried them, did Burnley have more than 1 shot that night ?

[Exiled in Toronto]

How good did we look in our play off final? We scabbed a penalty, missed another and then spent the rest of the time on the back foot making goal-line clearances.

They could and should have won 3 or 4 nil against a team who almost went up automatically. Credit where it is due.

[Exiled in Toronto]

Yep, Striker for a left winger makes perfect sense

I'd take Jensen instead of '70 shots for every goal' Pedersen

[philipl]

1864's analysis of their players is spot on.

The massive advantage Burnley have is Coyle who has produced far more from those limited players than they ever knew they had and melded them into an extremely effective team.

But coming up against the superior physical strength and pace of the Premier League week in week out will undo them.

Even in the Championship, the dingles had two long runs- one at the start of the season and one at the start of the year- when they couldn't win. Coyle's genius pulled them round both times.

[Sir Ranulf Westwood]

Well we made it.

Now we'll see if Rovers really are as good as you think won't we.

[jim mk2]

Well we made it.

Now we'll see if Rovers really are as good as you think won't we.

More to the point - how good are Burnley and can they survive ?

[dave birch]

No, we have maintained a position for a few years. It's up to you and your team to match us. That means winning it as well.

Best of luck

[thenodrog]

Coyle's genius pulled them round both times.

I'd prefer talent, nous or even expertise at this stage gunner.

[Claytons Left Boot]

Well we made it.

Now we'll see if Rovers really are as good as you think won't we.

Get back in them thar woods, boy and take your banjo with you, you six fingered hillbilly..........

[dave birch]

Longsiders, before you say too much, get Ranulf to pull his head in

[philipl]

I'd prefer talent, nous or even expertise at this stage gunner.

Burnley got promoted- it took some sort of twisted genius to manage that!