[Archived] Away Fans In Bbe Boxes Again .

[ABBEY]

Don't the hierarchy never learn about away fans in home areas and let them wind the home fans up....there will be some serious disorder one of these days.

[Hughesy]

I agree totally Abbey - il flag it up and see what they say....

[mark]

  On 07/12/2009 at 10:12, Hughesy said:

I agree totally Abbey - il flag it up and see what they say....

i don't. i got a tickets through a mates work to a box in the emirates and I must say the free booze really took the edge of a 6-2 thumping. i also cheared loudly along side a chelsea fan when we scored our two. i was hardly gonna turn doen a free ticket in a box now was I? and i imagine that's what happened with the chaps that were bothering you. no harm done i say.

[ABBEY]

Oh so its ok to bang ob windows and shout (Please don't use that word again) off you woolly back cuts....

[Mattyblue]

I agree with you mark to an extent.

But these scousers (that's if they were, wouldn't surprise me one bit if they resided in East Lancs) were openly taunting the Rovers fans and some had LFC shirts on!

To me that is taking it too far, no issue at all about non home team fans in boxes, that goes on everywhere.

[ABBEY]

And for burnley fans stick fingers up telling @#/? fans to (Please don't use that word again) off

[stuwilky]

  On 07/12/2009 at 10:32, Mattyblue said:

I agree with you mark to an extent.

But these scousers (that's if they were, wouldn't surprise me one bit if they resided in East Lancs) were openly taunting the Rovers fans and some had LFC shirts on!

To me that is taking it too far, no issue at all about non home team fans in boxes, that goes on everywhere.

This is an ongoing issue with Rovers, and rather bizarrely specifically Box 1 in the Blackburn End.

I was under the impression there was a strict dress code? It appears this dress code has been lowered to such a point that football shirts are now acceptable attire.

What I did notice on Saturday is that after a very minor incident said "gentleman" retreated to behind the blinds - now whether or not this was on request or by his choice doesnt actually matter. I mentioned this to the steward pre kick off as I had clocked the kid in a shirt and thought we might be in for a hammering and the very ugly scenese which follow with the corporate types being above reproach. He assured me that John Newsham was aware of the situation and that it would be carefully monitored.

I would be very interested in what Hughesy's contact in the commercial department has to say about the matter.

[unluckymorton]

  On 07/12/2009 at 10:16, mark said:

i don't. i got a tickets through a mates work to a box in the emirates and I must say the free booze really took the edge of a 6-2 thumping. i also cheared loudly along side a chelsea fan when we scored our two. i was hardly gonna turn doen a free ticket in a box now was I? and i imagine that's what happened with the chaps that were bothering you. no harm done i say.

I'm with you on that one Mark. I've had many a corporate away day, the best being at Newcastle where the box surrounded by the home fans. Not once have I experienced any trouble even though we've had good banter. I'm sure if I had started to abuse the home fans it would have kicked off, and if so I would expect to be escorted out of the ground. That is what should happen if any opposition fans are in the BBE boxes and are abusing home fans. We have no say who goes in the private box but they must respect their position and act accordingly. Those boxes cannot be positioned anywhere else in the ground as the other corporate areas are a totally different layout. The best thing to do is ignore them. The behaviour at the burnley game was disgusting, with Rovers fans being pelted with coins in the open box next to where the burnley fan was.

[ABBEY]

Not condoning the coin throwing but the situation where a dingle wearing a dingle tie and his antics when they scored should have been nipped in the bud as soon as he started winding rovers fans up...if they are that brave just sit em in the bbe.

[Mattyblue]

  On 07/12/2009 at 10:45, stuwilky said:

This is an ongoing issue with Rovers, and rather bizarrely specifically Box 1 in the Blackburn End.

I was under the impression there was a strict dress code? It appears this dress code has been lowered to such a point that football shirts are now acceptable attire.

What I did notice on Saturday is that after a very minor incident said "gentleman" retreated to behind the blinds - now whether or not this was on request or by his choice doesnt actually matter. I mentioned this to the steward pre kick off as I had clocked the kid in a shirt and thought we might be in for a hammering and the very ugly scenese which follow with the corporate types being above reproach. He assured me that John Newsham was aware of the situation and that it would be carefully monitored.

I would be very interested in what Hughesy's contact in the commercial department has to say about the matter.

The shirts annoyed me, because 2 minutes later as I was walking out I clocked a poster for Jack's Kitchen in the JW Stand, stating that replica kits aren't allowed!

[unluckymorton]

  On 07/12/2009 at 10:58, ABBEY said:

Not condoning the coin throwing but the situation where a dingle wearing a dingle tie and his antics when they scored should have been nipped in the bud as soon as he started winding rovers fans up...if they are that brave just sit em in the bbe.

I agree, he should have been removed into the bar area out of site. He should also have been warned by security as soon as he entered the stadium.

Certainly no colours to be worn in the boxes and a strict code of behaviour. I must admit it is extremely difficult not to celebrate when your team scores wherever you are but it is easily dealt with, if the culprits are seen by the BBE to be removed from the viewing area everybody will be happy.

I see nobody has compained about the box full of young ladies the other week?

[modes98]

His is one of the things which annoys me most. Send them down the Darwen end. It has caused trouble in the past and I thought it would explode when the dingle was in during the derby.

[Beta Ray Bill]

Not a corporate box, but saw stewards discussing the entry of a group of 6-8 Scousers in the JW on Saturday - two of which were wearing LFC shirts.

Jist of the conversation was "you'd better cover them up lads". And in they come.

[Hughesy]

  On 07/12/2009 at 12:15, Beta Ray Bill said:

Not a corporate box, but saw stewards discussing the entry of a group of 6-8 Scousers in the JW on Saturday - two of which were wearing LFC shirts.

Jist of the conversation was "you'd better cover them up lads". And in they come.

Shirt & tie should be the minimum dress code surely - otherwise no entry!

Iv asked what the policy is so il let you know what they say!

[Derby Blue]

  On 07/12/2009 at 12:15, Beta Ray Bill said:

Not a corporate box, but saw stewards discussing the entry of a group of 6-8 Scousers in the JW on Saturday - two of which were wearing LFC shirts.

Jist of the conversation was "you'd better cover them up lads". And in they come.

There were a couple in the corporate area in the central part of the JW on saturday with Liverpool scarves wrapped round their neck. Didn't go down too well but they seemed quite well behaved - not sure what would have happened had they scored though.

[thenodrog]

  On 07/12/2009 at 10:58, ABBEY said:

Not condoning the coin throwing but the situation where a dingle wearing a dingle tie and his antics when they scored should have been nipped in the bud as soon as he started winding rovers fans up...if they are that brave just sit em in the bbe.

Abbey don't tell me you let someone wind you up cos he had a tie on? Thing is that bloke in the box has just given our club more money than a ST on the BBurn end costs and therefore should be tolerated and even encouraged. Taking the p1ss from behind glass is out of order but we cannot have it both ways unless the blackburn end faithful are prepared to higher the boxes themselves.

You know they can't sit in the BBE cos it will spark trouble with the chavs BUT worse still they can't sit in the Riverside or the JW either because churlish people report them to the stewards. Childish, sneaky and unsatisfactory imo. My mate who is not a ST holder but who goes to most home matches (except Spurs) took his old school friend to the City match and they sat in the JW upper. The bloke is a 61 year old retired headmaster from Bury and as soon as City scored and he threw up his arms and clapped he was singled out, reported to the stewards and slung out. Ludicrous and it casts a slight on the entire club. My mate wrote to the club didn't get a satisafactory response and has not been again on principle. Is that what we really want and the image that we want to project?

If BRFC supporters cannot be relied upon to behave in a mature manner then I'm sure that a section of the JW upper Darwen end could be allocated to 'dual support' such as this.

As an aside I purchaesd corporate hospitality in the Clayton Douglas lounge where one has a meal and then sits next to the press box to view the match. We took a customer who lives up here but supports Stoke. There should be nothing at all wrong with that BUT it was embarrassing when it was announced before the match started that any Stoke fans should keep quiet and not shout if Stoke scored or they'd end up getting objections and getting thumped by the locals! What a fookin crappy image of Blackburn we are projecting.

[BRFC95]

  On 07/12/2009 at 13:02, thenodrog said:

Thing is that bloke in the box has just given our club more money than a ST on the BBurn end costs

More like a freerolling guest of the bloke that has just given our club more money than a ST on the BBurn end costs.

He should behave and show respect or get shown the door.

[thenodrog]

  On 07/12/2009 at 12:44, Mansfield Blue said:

There were a couple in the corporate area in the central part of the JW on saturday with Liverpool scarves wrapped round their neck. Didn't go down too well but they seemed quite well behaved - not sure what would have happened had they scored though.

Exactly my point. Those people have shoved a lot of money our way on Sat.

Last time I went to Anfield I was given tickets by a mate in the pub and I sat about 10 rows behind the Lpool dug out. The scousers knew we were BRFC fans and we had good craic with them all match and no one whinged to a steward...... not even when Bellamy notched.

If thats Big club attitude then bring it on it's far metter than the embittered attitudes of the small provinicial ones.

  On 07/12/2009 at 13:08, BRFC95 said:

More like a freerolling guest of the bloke that has just given our club more money than a ST on the BBurn end costs.

He should behave and show respect or get shown the door.

No problem. Just as long as that works both ways. Alternatively the club should shut the boxes and lump the lost revenue onto the ST price for the Blackburn end.

[JAL]

I find this topic a bit pathetic, away fans in home boxes, so what!

You should take pleasure in the fact that his or her team is going to lose at Ewood and they've paid for that priviledge.

[mhead]

Each box costs at least 1 grand for the less well known teams and then they stack up the prices for the Man Utd's and Scousers to 2 or 3 times that figure. So we do nab em.And our favourite no. 9 Mr Roberts has his own box for his family and friends(and must pay about 20 grand for that privilege)

So the Boxes probably raise as much as the whole unwashed on the BBE !!

[OhmiBRFC]

Not impressed with Dingles in the BBE. That's just stupid.

[PAFELL]

  On 07/12/2009 at 13:02, thenodrog said:

Abbey don't tell me you let someone wind you up cos he had a tie on? Thing is that bloke in the box has just given our club more money than a ST on the BBurn end costs and therefore should be tolerated and even encouraged. Taking the p1ss from behind glass is out of order but we cannot have it both ways unless the blackburn end faithful are prepared to higher the boxes themselves.

You know they can't sit in the BBE cos it will spark trouble with the chavs BUT worse still they can't sit in the Riverside or the JW either because churlish people report them to the stewards. Childish, sneaky and unsatisfactory imo. My mate who is not a ST holder but who goes to most home matches (except Spurs) took his old school friend to the City match and they sat in the JW upper. The bloke is a 61 year old retired headmaster from Bury and as soon as City scored and he threw up his arms and clapped he was singled out, reported to the stewards and slung out. Ludicrous and it casts a slight on the entire club. My mate wrote to the club didn't get a satisafactory response and has not been again on principle. Is that what we really want and the image that we want to project?

If BRFC supporters cannot be relied upon to behave in a mature manner then I'm sure that a section of the JW upper Darwen end could be allocated to 'dual support' such as this.

As an aside I purchaesd corporate hospitality in the Clayton Douglas lounge where one has a meal and then sits next to the press box to view the match. We took a customer who lives up here but supports Stoke. There should be nothing at all wrong with that BUT it was embarrassing when it was announced before the match started that any Stoke fans should keep quiet and not shout if Stoke scored or they'd end up getting objections and getting thumped by the locals! What a fookin crappy image of Blackburn we are projecting.

If the Club threw out a 61 year old man - who wasn't causing any trouble apart from supporting his club or seeing a goal scored then it is a shame upon the club and also the supporters of Rovers. Because if Rovers supporters were more tolerant of other supporters then the stewards would not need to act that way. If a supporter of any team is acting in an unruly manner then yes evict them.

One fixture I like going too is Fulham away. There they have a neutral area which works fine, supporters mingle freely going to and from the ground with no problems. Even in the pub the eight bells which away supporters use also has fulham supporters in at the same time - rightly so. In my view that is being a football supporter. Every club up and down the country SHOULD be able to do that, but cannot because of the mindless idiots who prefer causing / inciting trouble it cannot be done.

[FourLaneBlue]

As has been said before...can't they just change the glass to one-way so the fans cannot see into the boxes? Would be problem solved then surely?

[CrazyIvan]

  On 08/12/2009 at 19:11, FourLaneBlue said:

As has been said before...can't they just change the glass to one-way so the fans cannot see into the boxes? Would be problem solved then surely?

It never bothered me before but the Dingle was deliberately winding the Rovers fans up which should have resulted in him being removed. Otherwise I never pay attention to the boxes as they're in there and we're out here...

[ABBEY]

but thats what the scousers were doing and umpteen before them.Ive sat in home ends and kept quiet.