[Archived] Racist Chanting By "Rovers Supporters"

[mellison24]

Is there a 'reason' for racial tension in Blackburn from either community. If so what is the reason.

I think the 'reason' is that both sides feel they are unfairly treated by the other side. There are a number of cases where an asian/black man is not punished, where a white man (probably) would be and vice versa. There is no REAL reason, it's all just (unjustified) sour grapes in most cases, I'd guess. The current hot topic is an asian man who ran over a young white lass (while banned from driving for driving disquaified) and leaving her under the wheel of his car semi-conscious and he got just over 2 years jail (I think). He was facing deportation but it arises that he now has a family in the country.

This is wrong and he should still be deported imo. He should not be let off for a crime simply because of his family. Deport him. If his family need to see him, then they can go too if they wish. It's all very bitter, but I cannt establish a 'root' cause to it all.

[deryck guyler's spoon]

Less posting common sense cletus. There are lots on here who simply don't have the intellect to understand the concept.

I thought you were leaving this thread alone? Or is this more evidence of you being unable to help youself on "certain topics"?

[PAFELL]

I think the 'reason' is that both sides feel they are unfairly treated by the other side. There are a number of cases where an asian/black man is not punished, where a white man (probably) would be and vice versa. There is no REAL reason, it's all just (unjustified) sour grapes in most cases, I'd guess. The current hot topic is an asian man who ran over a young white lass (while banned from driving for driving disquaified) and leaving her under the wheel of his car semi-conscious and he got just over 2 years jail (I think). He was facing deportation but it arises that he now has a family in the country.

This is wrong and he should still be deported imo. He should not be let off for a crime simply because of his family. Deport him. If his family need to see him, then they can go too if they wish. It's all very bitter, but I cannt establish a 'root' cause to it all.

Lets be honest the way the law works in this country often baffles us all. We only have to look at our MP's to see un fair behaviour. If you and I had stolen the money that they have, we would be arrested etc.

A lot of drunk drivers in this country get off lightly. I have no time for drunk drivers and would be happy if they were jailed for life, when they take a persons life whilst driving. Even when a life is not taken I believe 5 years in jail should be the minimum sentence.

[Sir Ranulf Westwood]

When I've been unfortunate enough to sit near the ignorant sh*ts at away games I've taken pictures of them and sent them to the club. Next time it will be to the police. And I might just video it.

They're scum and should not be allowed to go where any civilised people are.

It's disgraceful that Rovers are frequently tarnished with this racist tag.

In my opinion it is why more and more people are choosing Burnley.

[ABBEY]

turd burglar suits you,talk about smack talking when you have not beat us in 30 years

[Sir Ranulf Westwood]

turd burglar suits you,talk about smack talking when you have not beat us in 30 years

That has little to do with the above reported racism plight currently infesting the rovers contingent.

[Mattyblue]

It's disgraceful that Rovers are frequently tarnished with this racist tag.

In my opinion it is why more and more people are choosing Burnley.

http://www.clarets-mad.co.uk/news/TMNW/cisa_call_on_chairman_over_racist_chants_7414/index.shtml

People in glass houses and all that Sir!

Now I know you Dingles are a little light in the grey matter department but surely you can remember Derby day?!!?

[cletus]

It's disgraceful that Rovers are frequently tarnished with this racist tag.

In my opinion it is why more and more people are choosing Burnley.

I`ve noticed you`ve popped up on this site again.You`re a bit like a homesick turd aren`t you?

The hurt & humiliation of derby day must`ve worn off a bit. Did you get some new bravado for christmas or something?

Matty blue...."http://www.clarets-m...414/index.shtml

People in glass houses and all that Sir!

Now I know you Dingles are a little light in the grey matter department but surely you can remember Derby day?!!?"

A good find there Mr Blue!

I heard the "town full of p###s" chant & the dead Jack Walker chants at the game in October. So for a dingle to come on here & tick people off for their behavior is quite funny really. I still remember a longside chant of "we shoot p###s" during a manx cup game many moons ago. Maybe you should pick your arguements a bit more wisely in future Mr Westwood

[magicalmortensleftpeg]

Perhaps we shouldnt be trying to point score off each other when it comes down to these things. Burnley and Blackburn both suffer from the same racial issues and both clubs need to crack down on any abuse which is displayed during the match.

Lifetime bans for using racist language may sound harsh to some, but if you dont want to suffer that fate then just prevent yourself from singing racist songs loudly whilst at a game. shouldnt be too hard.

[Sandiway Blue]

I`ve noticed you`ve popped up on this site again.You`re a bit like a homesick turd aren`t you?

The hurt & humiliation of derby day must`ve worn off a bit. Did you get some new bravado for christmas or something?

A good find there Mr Blue!

I heard the "town full of p###s" chant & the dead Jack Walker chants at the game in October. So for a dingle to come on here & tick people off for their behavior is quite funny really. I still remember a longside chant of "we shoot p###s" during a manx cup game many moons ago. Maybe you should pick your arguements a bit more wisely in future Mr Westwood

Indeed,in fact i know a few dingle supporters especially with living closer to Burnley than Blackburn.And out of around 20 or so dingle fans that i personally know,at least 15 of them are ardent BNP supporters.

I would definitely say Burnley fans have more `issues` with asians than Rovers fans do.

[Hughesy]

In my opinion it is why more and more people are choosing Burnley.

Choosing what? Not to attend home games, and therefore not sell out your MASSIVE/ HUGE 22546 all seater stadium....

Average attendance - 20,345

[Sandiway Blue]

Perhaps we shouldnt be trying to point score off each other when it comes down to these things. Burnley and Blackburn both suffer from the same racial issues and both clubs need to crack down on any abuse which is displayed during the match.

Lifetime bans for using racist language may sound harsh to some, but if you dont want to suffer that fate then just prevent yourself from singing racist songs loudly whilst at a game. shouldnt be too hard.

Absolutely! i find it unbelievable that in the 21st century people still judge other people based entirely on their colour and culture,and not their individuality as it should be.

[Darwen Rover]

Absolutely! i find it unbelievable that in the 21st century people still judge other people based entirely on their colour and culture,and not their individuality as it should be.

The problem is that there are still lots of folk not in the 21st century!! However couldn't agree more, as i've said before some people need to get out a bit more / find a hobby etc.

[Claytons Left Boot]

I take it you have never been to London then - or Brighton - or Hastings. London, yes not a small town but a city, has many people of all colours / religions etc and hardly a problem because of race.

Not sure about London but neither Brighton nor Hastings will have the same percentage of Asians within its ranks as Blackburn, Oldham, Leicester, Bradford or other such places. There are simply too many in Blackburn to allow for proper integration (not that either the Asians or British really want it to be honest).

Let's rewind to a hypothetical speech by the mayor of Blackburn, to its citizens, circa 1960 :-

'We propose to let in to Blackburn large numbers of Asian immigrants over the coming years without any real ceiling or quota. They will be from the Indian sub continent. Initially, these immigrants will be housed in the Whalley Range area but they will need to expand. By the year 2010, large areas of Blackburn will effectively be Asian with hardly any whites living within the boundaries of Whalley Range, Little Harwood, Queens Park, Eanam, Larkhill, parts of Shadsworth and the areas fringing Preston New Road as far as Beardwood, together with adjacent areas around Montague Street and on the other side around the cricket ground.'

'We estimate that by 2010 the Asian population of Blackburn will be 26k. However, we do not wish to implement any such actions until we have had a vote, by you, the people of Blackburn.'

Hand on heart, if that had happened, how many would have voted for the proposals?

There are simply too many for a town the size of Blackburn to absorb. I have nothing against immigration by folk of any creed or colour but it has to be sustainable. If there were a couple of thousand Asians in Blackburn, I think that would be a reasonable figure. Twenty odd thousand is ludicrous.

The racist chanting by Rovers fans is totally out of order.

[thenodrog]

Perhaps we shouldnt be trying to point score off each other when it comes down to these things. Burnley and Blackburn both suffer from the same racial issues and both clubs need to crack down on any abuse which is displayed during the match.

Not quite. I don't have the official population figures but there is a huge discrepency in mosques. Compare the Lancashire towns here......

http://www.lancashiremosques.com/mosque_directory.asp

[deryck guyler's spoon]

Not quite. I don't have the official population figures but there is a huge discrepency in mosques. Compare the Lancashire towns here......

http://www.lancashiremosques.com/mosque_directory.asp

There's something quite unsavory about you visting that site and then posting a link on here (not for the first time either)

[thenodrog]

quote name='deryck guyler's spoon' date='31 December 2009 - 15:37 PM' timestamp='1262273830' post='856141']

There's something quite unsavory about you visting that site and then posting a link on here (not for the first time either)

Well imo there is something decidedly unhealthy about you continually stalking me, so why not simply comment on the information within the link rather than continually targetting me? Maybe that might better suit your soppy and twisted pc agenda.

[Steve Moss]

If Blackburn's Asians are Indians, then wouldn't the majority be Hindu? Or are they from specifically Muslim portions of the Indian subcontinent.

Speaking as an American who attended university with a lot of Asians (i.e. Indians), I don't think there would be a whole lot of trouble with intergration over a few generations. The Indian female students I knew were smoking hot.

I can't help but think that parts of this conversation have been repeated in generations past, most recently in regards to the Catholic Irish.

[Tom]

I'd say most of Blackburn's Asians are from Pakistan Smoss

[Threepenny Bit Foot]

Racist chanting and racism in general should not be tollerated at all by the club. Offenders should be ejected from the ground immediately in every circumstance. Blackburn is a multi-racial town and it's football team should fully represent that.

[only2garners]

If Blackburn's Asians are Indians, then wouldn't the majority be Hindu? Or are they from specifically Muslim portions of the Indian subcontinent.

Of the 20% of Blackburn's population who are of Asian background, 10% are Indian and 9% Pakistani. However, it may be that many of those of Indian background are Muslims - I don't know. India has 138m Muslims, 13% of the population. As they are discriminated against in India by the majority Hindu population it may well be that many have looked to emigrate.

[Darwen Rover]

I know 2 lads that have a season ticket in the jack walker upper that walked out at half time at Wigan..

I really want to start watching some away games, but there's no way I'm gonna subject myself and my child to this kind of humiliation!'

The lads mentioned said there was a large portion of people around them chanting the racist material..

The club need to nail this and use a few examples..

[gumboots]

Of the 20% of Blackburn's population who are of Asian background, 10% are Indian and 9% Pakistani. However, it may be that many of those of Indian background are Muslims - I don't know. India has 138m Muslims, 13% of the population. As they are discriminated against in India by the majority Hindu population it may well be that many have looked to emigrate.

I work in one of the schools where the majority of pupils are of Asian heritage. Most are moslems whether they are of Indian, Pakistani or Bangladeshi origin. There are a few Hindus and also a few Sikhs, but they are in an even bigger minority that the white children in school.

[braddock]

This has probably already been mentioned, i know the game itself has been, but i was on the next to back row at wigan and there was racist chanting on the back row just behind us but no stewards or police were around. it was incredibly uncomfortable, and they even tried starting racist songs not about coyle (racist songs about coyle not being any better of course, but not even try to disguise it as distasteful humour at burnley's expense). At one point, after trying to break the seats by standing on the backs forcefully (but not succeeding) two began to sing 'we hate p****', then cursed the crowd for not joining in. 'no wonder this countries on its ar*e' one then exclaimed. embarrassing.

I haven't felt so uncomfortable at a rovers game since man city got promoted and turned out to be all around us. That is probably the only thing that has compared to it since we were so close and by not singing along i was half expecting to be confronted.

[Blue n White Rover]

This has probably already been mentioned, i know the game itself has been, but i was on the next to back row at wigan and there was racist chanting on the back row just behind us but no stewards or police were around. it was incredibly uncomfortable, and they even tried starting racist songs not about coyle (racist songs about coyle not being any better of course, but not even try to disguise it as distasteful humour at burnley's expense). At one point, after trying to break the seats by standing on the backs forcefully (but not succeeding) two began to sing 'we hate p****', then cursed the crowd for not joining in. 'no wonder this countries on its ar*e' one then exclaimed. embarrassing.

I haven't felt so uncomfortable at a rovers game since man city got promoted and turned out to be all around us. That is probably the only thing that has compared to it since we were so close and by not singing along i was half expecting to be confronted.

Some members of this board will seem to think that is okay

Anyone know an email address that I can contact the club about regarding all of this. I'm sure the more fans that complain the quicker it will get resolved!