[Archived] Megson Sacked, Coyle Takes Over

[Stuart]

Simon Grayson would be a good shout for Burnley, but I doubt he'd leave Leeds for the inevitible relegation by our neighbours.

He isn't qualified either. And according to the FA website, he isn't on the 2009 intake either:

"The Pro Licence takes a year to complete and the following coaches hope to complete the course in the summer of 2010:

Nigel Adkins, Frankie Bunn, Julie Chipchase, Bobby Davison, Roberto Di Matteo, Sean Dyche, Paul Hart, Keith Hill, Damien Matthew, Eddie Newton, Thorvaldur Orlygsson, Tony Parks, John Pemberton, Gus Poyet, Steve Staunton, Willum Thor Thorsson, Paul Tisdale."

"Now let`s see what you could`ve won.....with Coyle"

or

"Super! great! Smashin`.....yer town up!!"

Our Jim's a Rovers fan!

[Kelbo]

Funny thing this pro license, Coyle isnt on it either, unless they get a different one in Scotland!!

[cletus]

Someone needs to give you your BFH.

BFH??? what`s one of those?

[Stuart]

BFH??? what`s one of those?

Seriously?

[Fylde Coast Fan]

No chance - he said only yesterday "I wont quit Leeds" if a premier league team comes calling.

And Coyle said he wouldn't be interested in the Bolton job...

Wouldn't think Grayson would pass up the chance to take Leeds all the way back to the Prem though, they're his team since he was a boy.

[JAL]

Gary Megson has been absolutely crucified on sky sports news by Bolton fans giving their opinion on Owen Coyle.

Just cant see who would want to employ Gary Megson now after his stint at Bolton.

[Anti-Dingle-Brigade]

Big fkkin hammer.

Battlefield Heros.

Brotherhood family Honour.

Bloody fkking hell.

BoyFriend Head.

Or more likely:

Bus Fare Home. (Jim Bowen)

[adopted scouser]

Just a point here, Whoever the Dingles choose next, they are now a prem club, will they have to have an Pro License?

Avram Grant's got one of them hasn't he ?

[Stuart]

Avram Grant's got one of them hasn't he ?

It seems that at the time he left Chelsea he hadn't got through the course.

Yet, Portsmouth now say he does have his licence. Can't find any other confirmation though.

Odd.

[Mattyblue]

I'd go farther,you really can't make judgements about how people behave because of their country of birth,their race,colour,religion etc. People who do that are a bit thick---like the BNP.

Oh for god sake! This right on claptrap is making this board like a Guardian leader article at times.

What's wrong with discussing national characteristics? What deeply hurtful remark has AESF uttered, who is likely to be offended?

Us Brits and Irish are blessed to live on islands with individual nations and their respective culture.

I have always found those from Northern Ireland much more cynical and hardened than those from the Republic- understandable! I find Northeners to be a little more cheerful than those south of the Watford Gap. And what is wrong with that? We've been having banter and discussions like this for hundreds of years!

People need to stop constantly looking for 'intolerance' where it isnt there.

[EwoodGlory]

Funny thing this pro license, Coyle isnt on it either, unless they get a different one in Scotland!!

I think they do, i'm sure that's where Shearer chose to do his?

[koi]

Avram Grant's got one of them hasn't he ?

If your referring to the recent tabloid 'scandal' I take my hat off to you for a classic post! If not, ignore me!

[Kelbo]

It seems that at the time he left Chelsea he hadn't got through the course.

Yet, Portsmouth now say he does have his licence. Can't find any other confirmation though.

Odd.

Nice find Jisty, interesting!!

[braddock]

apologies if this has already been posted but i couldn't find it

Alastair Campbell's column

http://football.fanhouse.co.uk/2010/01/05/turf-moor-diaries-a-sideways-move-that-leaves-claret-fans-askin/

Turf Moor Diaries: A Sideways Move That Leaves Clarets Fans Asking Why

As we trooped out of the stadium at Milton Keynes on Saturday, I bumped into Dave Burnley, one of our greatest fans.

He has missed one game since the mid-1970s, changed his name by deed poll, named his daughter Clarette in honour of the club's colours, and written a terrific book about his life as an extreme football fan, called Got To Be There.

He was wearing his trademark ripped sheepskin coat and looking really happy, not merely because of the rare away win but because of his interpretation of Owen Coyle's salute to the fans at the end of the match.

"He's definitely staying, definitely," he said. "Big wave, thumbs up, that is not a man who is walking away from us."

Dave is a walking encyclopaedia on matters Claret, but that was one he got badly wrong. Unlike my son Calum, who had already decided that if Coyle had wanted to quell the rumours, he could have done so, and the fact that he hadn't meant he was already half-way out the door.

Right now, in common with many other Burnley supporters, Dave Burnley will be angry and disappointed, both at Coyle's departure, and the manner of it. Holding out the prospect of staying, after last night's "sleep on it" meeting with chairman Barry Kilby, has simply added to the sense of disappointment, as only dashed hope can. As for Calum, he is telling his Arsenal mates how much he hopes they stuff Bolton tomorrow.

I cannot say I am surprised he has gone. As I said here on Saturday, the bookies rarely get the big managerial calls wrong, not 5-2 odds on, take no more bets wrong at any rate. The minute Coyle became the runaway favourite, you sensed it was only a matter of time. There was also the odd business of him not facing the media after the match on Saturday.

Coyle likes talking to the telly, and he is very good at it. Even though he was flying to Scotland to see his family - and I understand the flight was booked two days earlier so there is no reason to disbelieve that - it would have been easy enough to fit in a quick interview, or get the club spokesman to brief what he would have said.

But by then it was clear that he was on his way to Bolton via Glasgow. Yesterday's Daily Mirror was the final clue. A story written by Alan Nixon, Coyle's closest media friend from way back, stated definitively that he was leaving.

So though I am not surprised that he's going, I am surprised that he wants to.

Bolton fans make a lot of the fact that Coyle played for the club, which will have added a certain emotional pull. But if you are talking about emotion, how much bigger would the pull have been when the call came from Celtic, the club he supported as a child in his native Glasgow?

His argument then, as when he was linked with the Scotland job after George Burley was sacked, was that he was flattered but too committed to what he was trying to build at Burnley.

It is hard to see what Bolton gives him that makes that commitment so easily breached. England cricketer Jimmy Anderson summed it up rather well in an incredulous sounding tweet from South Africa. "Leaving Burnley for Bolton?" It is not just Burnley people like Jimmy who will be asking that.

Yes, it is a bigger club. But not that much bigger, which is why a lot of football people are seeing it as a sideways move.

He was on around a million pounds a year at Burnley, so even if he has managed to get a rise on that, I'd be surprised if it is that much more. Nothing to match the percentage rise he got in moving from St Johnstone to Burnley, or in going from Championship Burnley to Premier League Burnley. It is true that Coyle did a lot for Burnley. But Burnley did a lot for Coyle. And I hope they hang tough on the compensation package, someone seemingly having jumped the gun in claiming it had been agreed before last night's meeting.

Doubtless he will have been promised some money to buy new players. But Bolton's finances are not that great. Far from it. And one of the reasons his reputation is so strong is that he has shown it is possible to manage a low-budget team, play good football, get to the top flight and make a good fist at survival.

If he had stayed at Burnley, and we had gone down despite all his efforts, his reputation would still have been strong and he would still have been in the running for bigger jobs.

But if he fails to keep Bolton up, it will be a reputational blow. And if he cements them as a mid-table Premier League club, he is in reputational limbo.

For taking Burnley to the Premier League for the first time, Coyle has already secured his place in the club's history. The reason people feel so disappointed today is precisely because he seemed like a cut above the average football manager. He seemed to get just how much this club meant to the town. People liked his engaging and outgoing personality. They liked the attractive football he made his players play. They loved the Cup runs last year. Above all, they loved promotion and the Premier League adventure.

The adventure is still on, and the memories are still there. But it is very sad that someone who was so key to it has disappeared down the road.

Meanwhile, Bolton v Burnley at the Reebok two weeks from today could be one of the hottest games of a season already packed with them.

[adopted scouser]

If your referring to the recent tabloid 'scandal' I take my hat off to you for a classic post! If not, ignore me!

[BuckyRover]

You are in (Bangkok) dangerous territory there....

[47er]

Oh for god sake! This right on claptrap is making this board like a Guardian leader article at times.

What's wrong with discussing national characteristics? What deeply hurtful remark has AESF uttered, who is likely to be offended?

Us Brits and Irish are blessed to live on islands with individual nations and their respective culture.

I have always found those from Northern Ireland much more cynical and hardened than those from the Republic- understandable! I find Northeners to be a little more cheerful than those south of the Watford Gap. And what is wrong with that? We've been having banter and discussions like this for hundreds of years!

People need to stop constantly looking for 'intolerance' where it isnt there.

My reply was prompted by someone who was offended. Anyway I don't like people lecturing about national characteristics as if they are learned in the matter when they are clearly not..That's my view, take it or leave it. As for the North-South optimism divide who is more miserable than a Blackburn Rovers fan? Damn!-fallen into my own trap!

[BRFC Casuals]

Ha i know lots of scottish folk bit strange but easy to spot cause they all have "i love Scotland" stickers on there cars but they all live in England now if they all love Scotland so much WHY ? ?

oh and before you pc freaks start crying im a proud born and bred Ulsterman but i love England because its my home

[braddock]

can we not get back to laughing at burnley?

[RevidgeBlue]

Alastair Campbell's blog shows that no football fan is exempt from suffering from delusions of grandeur about their own club, no matter how lofty their station in real life.

PS Was Coyle really on c 1m p.a. at Burnley?

[Gav]

Coyle wasn’t backed by the burnley board in his pursuit of Nugent, they can’t compete with Bolton in terms of transfer budget or wages, and are going back to championship at the end of the season, hardly a step sideways.

These burnley fans need to come back into the real world!

And AC is a complete and utter ****

Back on topic

[Hughesy]

Its not certain they will go down - but hopefully they do.

Either way - sensible trading this year should help them become a yo-yo club if they do go down. They really could do with an Ince to set them back 3 years!

[Tris]

PS Was Coyle really on c 1m p.a. at Burnley?

Yeah I saw him on the lunchtime news ...

[broadsword]

Its not certain they will go down - but hopefully they do.

Either way - sensible trading this year should help them become a yo-yo club if they do go down. They really could do with an Ince to set them back 3 years!

I'm not 100% sure of that (becoming a yo-yo club).

Even with parachute payments they're still skint. It was a minor miracle they got into the Premiership in the first place.

To appoint their next manager as someone who had the same effect on them that Coyle did, I just can't see it. They'd have to be very lucky.

[Majiball]

Isn't that Pro licence list just from the English FA. Whoever they bring in will either have to be working towards it or already on it.

On Burnley I don't think they'll become a yo-yo club, poor dingles probably wouldn't be able to use one with 6 fingers. That sort of co-ordination is generally only displayed in the evolved population.