[Archived] Megson Sacked, Coyle Takes Over

[Harrier7]

And AC is a complete and utter ****

Back on topic

No wonder he wants to leave Burnley with that complete ***tard A.C. hanging around like the Grim Reaper.

[longsiders1882]

I'm not 100% sure of that (becoming a yo-yo club).

Even with parachute payments they're still skint. It was a minor miracle they got into the Premiership in the first place.

To appoint their next manager as someone who had the same effect on them that Coyle did, I just can't see it. They'd have to be very lucky.

Not sure how you work that out. External debt = £0

Bank Overdraft = £0

Internal Debt/Directors Loans = £0

Wage bill (estimated) £14 million

Parachute payment = £11 million

Normal trading turnover = £8 million (based on last season in championship)

So whatever happens we are not skint AND it vindicates the clubs policy on spending. Sets us up to run smooth for years to come - if we yo yo great, if we stay up even better, if we stay down no worries.

Time for us to focus on the new manager - and hope and pray our board don't have an Ince moment

[PAFELL]

I'm not 100% sure of that (becoming a yo-yo club).

Even with parachute payments they're still skint. It was a minor miracle they got into the Premiership in the first place.

To appoint their next manager as someone who had the same effect on them that Coyle did, I just can't see it. They'd have to be very lucky.

I think it is possible they are in a better money situation than Rovers. They have no debt, so their income is for wages, operating costs and profit. I do not think they will go down either. I have never heard anything bad about the effort on the filed, yet we are always having ago at Rovers players for laziness etc. I think burnely being in the prem is also good for Rovers. I can understand natural rivalry for burnley v Rovers supporters, but never have understood the hatred for each other from both sides. Can anybody tell me how the hatred ever came about?

[Moorey]

I notice that Nicko posted the following on the Sam's targets thread.

"And when the Burnley thing is over one or two home truths will be coming out about how the club have handled this"

No doubt Burnley will be the bad guys in all of this and Mr Coyle's whiter than white reputation will remain preserved by the Mirror and Sunday People.

[philipl]

Hmm, Buy back ground and training ground and repay Director loanswas £12m last time I looked and Kilby and Flood were certainly getting their money back from the PL cash. I think you have posted the projected state of Burnley finances at the end of this season.

The good news for you is the parachute payment is now £16m per year for two years post-relegation.

The Guardian are speculating about John Hughes from Hibs and Paolo Sousa from Swansea as Coyle's successor. Whether a new bright eyed Scot would be welcomed by the revolting denizens of t'Turf is a moot point.

[Gav]

No doubt Burnley will be the bad guys in all of this and Mr Coyle's whiter than white reputation will remain preserved by the Mirror and Sunday People.

Exactly

Some bitter carrot has sparay painted Judas on the Coyle picture at the morgue

[GiddyGoat]

Exactly

Some bitter carrot has sparay painted Judas on the Coyle picture at the morgue

We need a picture Gav. You must be having a great time.

[Anti-Dingle-Brigade]

Hahaha.

[unluckymorton]

Hahaha.

Good work ADB!

[longsiders1882]

Mr Nixon seems to be becoming as much a hate figure as Coyle at the moment - his comments re stuff coming out when all this is done has been picked up on some Burnley boards.

People now trolling the internet and digging up stories about him being involved in the Wayne Rooney mess - http://www.gamblog.co.uk/2004/07/football-is-alan-nixons-wayne-rooney.htm

All I would say about stuff coming out - all those involved better hope they are whitter than white if they intend to start mud slinging (and I would suspect not one person involved is anything other than a dirty grey white at best). Once the compo is agreed (assuming we don't end up in the high court and the lawyers can resolve that soon) it would I suspect be best for all parties to move on and let sleeping dogs lie.

[braddock]

Supposedly they are all gonna throw their Coyle masks on to the pitch before the game when he comes out (as one dingle on footymad put it 'to show the world just what coyle has done to us' ). If they get beat, which i personally think they will, Bolton will take the mickey and Burnley will not be able to handle it. Could be trashing their town again.

I'd just love it...

[Anti-Dingle-Brigade]

Owen Coyle sprinting along the touchline celebrating Boltons first win would probably be too much for the Dingles.

If he "did an Adebayor" he'd be welcome in Blackburn .

[braddock]

Owen Coyle sprinting along the touchline celebrating Boltons first win would probably be too much for the Dingles.

If he "did an Adebayor" he'd be welcome in Blackburn .

then he would be god

[longsiders1882]

Give over - it is only one game and 3 points - being away from home we've all become used to the idea we can't win those games anyway.

Only 2 games this year amount to being anything more than points won or lost. We've lost one of them and look forward to the second one.

But yes, I'm sure emotions will be running high so lets hope everything passes of peacefully, the saving grace is it's Boltons job to control the crowd

[den]

Mr Nixon seems to be becoming as much a hate figure as Coyle at the moment - his comments re stuff coming out when all this is done has been picked up on some Burnley boards.

People now trolling the internet and digging up stories about him being involved in the Wayne Rooney mess - http://www.gamblog.co.uk/2004/07/football-is-alan-nixons-wayne-rooney.htm

All I would say about stuff coming out - all those involved better hope they are whitter than white if they intend to start mud slinging (and I would suspect not one person involved is anything other than a dirty grey white at best). Once the compo is agreed (assuming we don't end up in the high court and the lawyers can resolve that soon) it would I suspect be best for all parties to move on and let sleeping dogs lie.

WHY?

Sounds like you're becoming bitter as well Longsider. Listen to what he says and make your own mind up.

[Anti-Dingle-Brigade]

I don't think you'd be saying it was just one game if he celebrated like a moron. Don't think he will though. A cheeky V wouldn't go amiss! I think there will be enough booing and abuse thrown at him before a ball is kicked anyway.

[unluckymorton]

Mr Nixon seems to be becoming as much a hate figure as Coyle at the moment - his comments re stuff coming out when all this is done has been picked up on some Burnley boards.

People now trolling the internet and digging up stories about him being involved in the Wayne Rooney mess - http://www.gamblog.co.uk/2004/07/football-is-alan-nixons-wayne-rooney.htm

All I would say about stuff coming out - all those involved better hope they are whitter than white if they intend to start mud slinging (and I would suspect not one person involved is anything other than a dirty grey white at best). Once the compo is agreed (assuming we don't end up in the high court and the lawyers can resolve that soon) it would I suspect be best for all parties to move on and let sleeping dogs lie.

Good speech. I'm sick of hearing about "will he or won't he' and don't know anyone who can be that interested in the 'home truth's' on the club or on OC that are supposed to be released, he's not exactly a big name in football is he? Maybe Nicko is bitter about it? It's easy to start a rumour like he has on a messageboard for the likes of us to blow out of proportion. That way we do his work for him and he can't be held responsible, he's just planting the seed, that's what journalists do.

An unproven manager moving between two nothing clubs has not interested anybody at my place of work other than one of my colleagues who is a Bolton lad. Nobody else, including myself, cares a sh!t. It only matters if you are a dingle or a wanderer, of course it could matter a little if your a Rover as OC is all the dingles have going for them and we will enjoy watching their slippery slide down the table.

The loss of OC however will be extremely damaging to our compatriots at Turd Morgue. Any new manager coming in will require a lucrative deal to even be attracted to the club and will want to spend plenty of cash on the squad. How on earth can burnley manage to raise all that money???

[sambo]

If any Rovers fans or anyone else have a Coyle mask they could give to me I'd much appreciate it!

[longsiders1882]

WHY?

Sounds like you're becoming bitter as well Longsider. Listen to what he says and make your own mind up.

Not bitter den - I am pointing out what other people are digging up.

My comments re mud slinging are not aimed at one person or entity but all. I suspect there are elements of each parties behavoir that could have been better - that includes Burnley, Bolton and Coyle. The deal is done bar the shouting, I see no benefit in engaging in a media war.

For me, as I've said from the start, it just want it over and the new man in as quickly as possible. Thanks for what you did Owen, shame it has ended like this but lets all get on with our lives.

[unluckymorton]

Not bitter den - I am pointing out what other people are digging up.

My comments re mud slinging are not aimed at one person or entity but all. I suspect there are elements of each parties behavoir that could have been better - that includes Burnley, Bolton and Coyle. The deal is done bar the shouting, I see no benefit in engaging in a media war.

For me, as I've said from the start, it just want it over and the new man in as quickly as possible. Thanks for what you did Owen, shame it has ended like this but lets all get on with our lives.

This fella does actually talk sense.

I understand where you are coming from and that is all you can ask for. However the longer it goes on the better in a Rovers fans eyes as both Notlob & dingles won't be improving their squads until it is settled.

So Longsiders, Who's your choice of manager?

[braddock]

If any Rovers fans or anyone else have a Coyle mask they could give to me I'd much appreciate it!

i really hope rovers fans get a load made for late march

(if burnley have crumbled and still hate him with such vitriol)

[longsiders1882]

Still O'Driscoll for me.

Some are suggesting Steve Coppell - not for me thanks.

Hughes is hotly tipped (not Mark, another young scottish manager mmmmm)

I suspect it will be a young upcoming manager - hence rather a gamble but if we are going out the Prem lets do it with a bang not a whimper as some old stager attempts to 'make us more solid' etc etc. Also a younger manager IF he has the talent provides a better potential platform for coming back up.

Is Ince back in work? hehe.

[unluckymorton]

Still O'Driscoll for me.

Some are suggesting Steve Coppell - not for me thanks.

Hughes is hotly tipped (not Mark, another young scottish manager mmmmm)

I suspect it will be a young upcoming manager - hence rather a gamble but if we are going out the Prem lets do it with a bang not a whimper as some old stager attempts to 'make us more solid' etc etc. Also a younger manager IF he has the talent provides a better potential platform for coming back up.

Is Ince back in work? hehe.

We're all up for a bit of banter but please don't mention that !nce name again....

Skybet have put Paul Jewell in pole position... That can't be good news for you. There are some pretty ropey managers seem to be in the running according to the bookies. Coppell, Reid, Curbs, Southgate, Blackwell & Warnock.

Would you welcome Shearer?

[LeChuck]

Some are suggesting Steve Coppell - not for me thanks.

Not a bad choice I think, he's one of the least likely to rock the boat. He plays similar football to Coyle and isn't going to come in and upset people (a lá Ince), he might be just what you need to get through to the end of the season.

He's good at finding bargains as well, at least he was for a while at Reading (Doyle, Hunt, Sidwell etc).

[braddock]

http://timesonline.typepad.com/thegame/2010/01/owen-coyles-move-to-bolton-should-not-be-allowed.html

what an idiot. presumably this guy doesn't want any managers to move at all, ever unless sacked!

Owen Coyle's move to Bolton should not be allowed

Transfer windows were introduced by Fifa to help preserve the integrity of a league: it wouldn't be right for a player to play for one team one week and another the following week (with the exception, of course, of the January window). At least, that was the logic and while some may find it debatable there's some rational thought behind it. So then why are managers allowed to walk out on clubs and join their rivals?

I have been very impressed by Owen Coyle this season. There is no question that he has a bright future. But the idea that he could leave Burnley and join Bolton, a club in direct competition for a place in the top flight, simply doesn't sit well with me. Gary Megson was sacked on December 30. Today is January 6. Presumably Coyle was approached some time between those two dates (doing so earlier, of course, would not have been nice).

And presumably Coyle and Burnley were planning to sign players in January, which means Coyle has a very clear plan in place for what the club wanted to do. He is privy to a tremendous amount of inside information at Turf Moor, from player wages to transfer targets. He knows the players' strengths and weaknesses inside out. Does it potentially give him a competitive advantage if he takes over at Bolton? Yes, it certainly does. It doesn't really matter if Coyle is a man of integrity. He can't delete whatever privileged information he has from his brain.

Allowing managers to move from one club to another in the course of the same season can give off an appearance of impropriety and affect the integrity of a league. Simply put, it should not be allowed (unless, of course, a manager is sacked by one club and then appointed by another, which is not what's happening here).