[Archived] Megson Sacked, Coyle Takes Over

[FourLaneBlue]

Fantastic comment from Kilby in The Mirror..."Owen has a great affection for this club. It has been a fabulous two years and it was with regret that Owen went. He said there was only Celtic or Bolton that he would leave for. He did not take this decision lightly"

Can just imagine Coyley telling Spurs or Villa to do one as they are not Bolton...

[T4E]

Good point. Bert is a model professional. Since he's been with us he's not rocked the boat or put himself in the shop window. He's just got his head down and worked hard.

More accurately, Emerton has never ever done anything to make a bigger club than Rovers want him. He hasn't been in a position to show loyalty, infact he's put in performances that should have Rovers applauded for their loyalty to him.

Decent right back, rubbish right-mid. Calling him a legend due to his longevity is laughable.

[mellison24]

More accurately, Emerton has never ever done anything to make a bigger club than Rovers want him. He hasn't been in a position to show loyalty, infact he's put in performances that should have Rovers applauded for their loyalty to him.

Decent right back, rubbish right-mid. Calling him a legend due to his longevity is laughable.

Why is it? So Parkes and Faz weren't legends? I'm not saying he IS. But he WILL be regarded as one once he has left imo. A very good player.

Sorry mods, I know, off topic.

COYLE! (that better?)

[unluckymorton]

More accurately, Emerton has never ever done anything to make a bigger club than Rovers want him. He hasn't been in a position to show loyalty, infact he's put in performances that should have Rovers applauded for their loyalty to him.

Decent right back, rubbish right-mid. Calling him a legend due to his longevity is laughable.

He's one of the better players in our squad at this moment in time. He's a good right back and a good right midfielder. I'm not saying he's the best player to don a Rovers shirt but he's a model professional who has done well for us. He's been dropped & left on the bench from time to time but never winged. Not like the fantastic overweight lazy Benni who complains about having to start work at 7am on a Monday.

[unluckymorton]

Fantastic comment from Kilby in The Mirror..."Owen has a great affection for this club. It has been a fabulous two years and it was with regret that Owen went. He said there was only Celtic or Bolton that he would leave for. He did not take this decision lightly"

Can just imagine Coyley telling Spurs or Villa to do one as they are not Bolton...

I'd have great affection for somebody who was paying me £500k per annum. I'd be even fonder of Horwich Wanderers for paying me over £500k per annum though.

He's seemed to have taken the decision lightly enough to me. He was up and away as soon as he was linked with the job.

Bolton folk will seem quite normal after working at the dingledome.

Yes, but don't forget that until his reinvention, most of us would have gladly given him away. Part of his loyalty could be down to the fact that nobody at the time better than us would have really wanted him. Every player has his price and there's no loyalty in real terms from any player. Some players will tell you their best times and memories are with a particular club but they'd still go at the drop of a hat if something "better" was on offer.

Fair point, but I enjoy my job but if one of our competitors offered me a more competitive salary with a better car etc I'd probably be off. I can't knock anyone for bettering themselves. Players can manufacture moves for themselves, it seems to me Bert has just kept his head down and got on with the job in hand.

I wonder if Megson applies for the Turd Morgue vacancy?

[Anti-Dingle-Brigade]

Lambert seems to be a favourite, Hughes (not Mark) has ruled himself out. Curbs, Coppell and Warnock are other ones mentioned.

Can't say I'd be delighted if we were after any of those.

[T4E]

Why is it? So Parkes and Faz weren't legends?

Are you suggesting that Parkes and Fazackerly are considered legends PURELY due to longevity? Really?

Or do you have some other well hidden point?

[RevidgeBlue]

Lambert seems to be a favourite, Hughes (not Mark) has ruled himself out. Curbs, Coppell and Warnock are other ones mentioned.

Can't say I'd be delighted if we were after any of those.

Warnock might be looking for a way out at Palace because as at yesterday their players and staff still had't received their wages for December.

Might be good in a firefighting role this season. Not sure thereafter. (Remind me of someone else? )

I think Curbs would have to be prettydesperate to get back into work to take it. The Dingles would have to be equally desperate to take Coppell imo.

Lambert - who knows? Big gamble.

[unluckymorton]

Are you suggesting that Parkes and Fazackerly are considered legends PURELY due to longevity? Really?

Or do you have some other well hidden point?

It seems to me that the point is that Parkes and Faz were not world beaters. TThey were good servants to the club. A couple more seasons out of Bert and he'll be somewhere close to being a good servant to the club. He'll have been here 8 seasons at the end of this season, if he does 10 that'll be the first player for a long time to have earned a testimonial at our club.

[T4E]

My opinion is Emerton has stayed at Rovers because we are the peak of what he is capable of. He could not command a place at a bigger or better side. To think of this as commendable loyalty is wide of the mark. He's just doing his job (just about) and being paid handsomely for the pleasure.

[RevidgeBlue]

It seems to me that the point is that Parkes and Faz were not world beaters. TThey were good servants to the club. A couple more seasons out of Bert and he'll be somewhere close to being a good servant to the club. He'll have been here 8 seasons at the end of this season, if he does 10 that'll be the first player for a long time to have earned a testimonial at our club.

Parkes (as a player) I'd agree with you in terms of not being a world beater.

Fazackerly though not the biggest for a centre back was absolutely outstanding at reading the game and was extremely under-rated imo.

Had he been at a more fashionable club he'd have been on the fringes of England recognition.

Both of their contributions dwarf Bert's though. Before he was converted to RB everyone would have driven him to another club themselves.

My opinion is Emerton has stayed at Rovers because we are the peak of what he is capable of. He could not command a place at a bigger or better side. To think of this as commendable loyalty is wide of the mark. He's just doing his job (just about) and being paid handsomely for the pleasure.

Agreed.

I'd put Flitcroft in that bracket as well.

[braddock]

It'll be a sad day when he leaves. He'll be my next 'legend' shirt to be framed. (I have Friedel and Tugay shirts framed on my wall and I've decided to do that with every player I consider to be a Rovers legend in the future, Dunn and Emerton will be the next two).

While he isn't the BEST, he is a very effective and versatile player and very much an unsung hero.

please tell me nelsen will be up there too

[jodrell]

Warnock keeps getting mentioned but was their some bad blood between him and the Dingles? Or was it just him and Stan?

[mellison24]

Are you suggesting that Parkes and Fazackerly are considered legends PURELY due to longevity? Really?

Or do you have some other well hidden point?

Well my dad's opinion was that they were simply decent but by no means 'class'. So yes. I figured it was the general consensus as everybody I know who saw that generation of football tends to agree with that. It isn't MY opinion.

And anyway, Emerton isn't a legend due to 'longevity'. I consider him a very important player for us. I'd prefer him on our side than against us and I'd be quite bothered if he left the club any time soon.

[RevidgeBlue]

Well my dad's opinion was that they were simply decent but by no means 'class'.

I'd be quite bothered if he left the club any time soon.

I'd have to cordially disagree with your dad on Faz!

Emerton is an extremely good athlete, but whilst he measures up well next to Andrews or a permanently injured Reid I can't say I'd lose any sleep if someone came in for him for the right money.

[Hughesy]

Emerton is a very steady player - who always gives 100%, however he shouldnt be classed as 'Legend'.

Only Brad & Tugay in recent times deserve that...

[mellison24]

please tell me nelsen will be up there too

I forgot to add that. He is. Samba may well be another if he stays another year or 2, but that remains to be seen. The shirt thing is my way of preserving my own memories of the great players we've had.

[broadsword]

Bloody hell, you don't have to stay long to be a legend, do you?

[RevidgeBlue]

Only Brad & Tugay in recent times deserve that...

I'd go with that as well.

Sorry for drifting off topic mods - hopefully there'll be some news on Coyle soon.

Or maybe not - that would be even better!

[mellison24]

Bloody hell, you don't have to stay long to be a legend, do you?

It's my own judgement on who I think are good players, that's all. Another couple of years and Emerton will have his testimonial, as will Dunny.

I really regret using the word legend now. It really IS over-used.....and over-analysed.

[Amo]

Only Brad & Tugay in recent times deserve that...

Grabbi?

[broadsword]

Main Entry: leg·end

Pronunciation: \ˈle-jənd\

Function: noun

Etymology: Middle English legende, from Anglo-French & Medieval Latin; Anglo-French legende, from Medieval Latin legenda, from Latin, feminine of legendus, gerundive of legere to gather, select, read; akin to Greek legein to gather, say, logos speech, word, reason

Date: 14th century

1 a : a story coming down from the past; especially : one popularly regarded as historical although not verifiable b : a body of such stories <a place in the legend of the frontier> c : a popular myth of recent origin d : a person or thing that inspires legends e : the subject of a legend <its violence was legend even in its own time — William Broyles Jr.>

2 a : an inscription or title on an object (as a coin) b : caption 2b c : an explanatory list of the symbols on a map or chart

A person who inspires a story of dubious accuracy from the past?

On the basis of the song about his dong, I guess you could say he's a legend?

[Stonesrick]

Parkes (as a player) I'd agree with you in terms of not being a world beater.

Fazackerly though not the biggest for a centre back was absolutely outstanding at reading the game and was extremely under-rated imo.

I agree that Faz was outstanding at reading the game but the reason why he did not go on to bigger things was that his distribution let him down.

[Blue blood]

Slightly off topic but I have to say Tugs that imo both Flitty and Emerton are better than you suggest. Granted Emerton is average at best at right mid (and he was even worse on the left) but I'd say that as a right back and a centre mid Emerton is good, and most definately an asset to the team.

In light of this I'd say that as Emo mk II or mk III is definately an asset to us, any of the teams around us, Stoke, Fulham etc., and arguably a couple of seasons ago the clubs just above us, like Villa, Spurs etc - especially as a right back - would have been interested. In light of this, his loyalty means something, because there would be interest because he's more than just a decent player.

Even if we agreed he was just decent player, how many decent players move on for a new challenge/more money. Heck if there's interest in Andrews there's bound to have been interest in Emerton. I'm sure other clubs would've paid him a higher wage and a move could have benefited him financially.

I'd say the same for Flitty, he's better than you give him credit for. He was a good captain and a good centre mid. He had more to his game then just getting stuck in, which was what he excelled at, and got some decent goals. He was also a good captain, if somewhat hot headed. At the end his ability did tail off, but he stayed to fight for his place. Maybe that's partly because of the dosh, but I've a feeling it's partly because he felt an attachment to the club - remember the jack this is 4 you t shirt? Perhaps players can't win in that situation. Also remember in Hughes 1st season even past his peak Flitty played a part in keeping us up.

Now I'm not saying that either is top drawer in terms of legendary status: they'd not Friedel, or Tugs or any of those mentioned, but I do think that they are more than just bodies to wear the blue and white halves. In fact given the way football is going, I think we'll see fewer and fewer legends as players move on more - money talks - making their contribution all the more significant.

[RevidgeBlue]

I agree that Faz was outstanding at reading the game but the reason why he did not go on to bigger things was that his distribution let him down.

You may well be right, however as a defender I thought he was excellent and his timing in the tackle was superb as well. Most centre halves these days seem to have lost the art of making a clean tackle.

Heck, I'm starting to sound like Fife!