[Archived] Megson Sacked, Coyle Takes Over

[Tris]

Nice twist

Coyle can quit Burnley for nothing

The highly-rated chief is gagged by Burnley's suspension order but feels ... ...

... ... that he has a freelance journalist in his pocket who will get any story printed in the Mirror that Coyle asks for???

Sorry, just to be clear, the above isn't factual, it's like the first throw of the dice in the Have I Got News For You missing words round

[RevidgeBlue]

Burnley done up like a kipper!

Tell you what if that the case then Coyle should consider keeping his gob shut and stop throwing his future employers money about. Chucking a million of someone elses money is not a good move at all. Better still rather than get Bolton to fund his guilt trip why not work for nothing for 12 months and donate his own money to Burnley. He can well afford it now.

Trouble is nicko omits to mention the nature of the legal advice Burnley have had which I presume will be quite different.

[longsiders1882]

Quite rev

If he was sure he could he would already have done it. Truth is whatever advice he has had he and Bolton will be worried that we will challenge, stop him taking up his post and wait upto 6/8 weeks for a high court date - by which time of course the window has shut and Bolton could well be deep in the relegation mire (as could we as well of course)

[nicko]

So, Bolton were perfectly happy with Megson at 2-0 up v Hull and had never even entertained the idea of sacking him?.

But a few minutes later at 2-2 he has missed his points total and therefore gets the chop?

OK.

Of course, you would know more about this than the people who run Bolton Wanderers.

Or Gary Megson.

It must be easy being an armchair expert.

You have had enough practice.

Good Grief.

There's a surprise.

Squeaky clean Owen, nasty horrible Burnley etc etc etc.

If the masses aren't revolting in Burnley already they will be after reading that pile of cack.

I know you don't like to...but check the facts.

[Steve Moss]

It must be easy being an armchair expert.

Hey! On behalf of an armchair experts everywhere, being an armchair expert is a lot of work. Ensuring that reality doesn't interfere with my delusions of expertise, which is supported by carefully cultivated gossip, rumor, innuendo, rampant speculation and narrow minded anonymous opinion, is mentally exhausting. I should know, as its the only thing I'm expert at.

More seriously, I enjoy your articles and posts. Keep them coming, please.

[longsiders1882]

I know you don't like to...but check the facts.

and remember you only have one side of the story - he would have walked if they were so confident he could. There is not a football fan in the country who will honestly believe that story.

[RevidgeBlue]

I know you don't like to...but check the facts.

Why don't you?

What is Burnley's stance on the matter? What advice have they received?

You haven't written a balanced article on the matter, just a PR piece on behalf of Coyle in an attempt to make him look whiter than white.

And we might as well get the "armchair expert" jibes out of the way once and for all, I have been spending a lot of time on here the last few days as I can't work for the next 2-3 weeks and the car happens to be snowed in. So I might be on here a lot for the next few days as well.

If that's ok with you.

[RevidgeBlue]

and remember you only have one side of the story - he would have walked if they were so confident he could. There is not a football fan in the country who will honestly believe that story.

That's very cynical longsider. I'm sure everyone will believe that despite the fact Coyle has previously stressed his desire to leave Burnley mid contract, he is now actually refusing to leave them until his new employers pay Burnley 1m.

Even though they don't have to.

And even though that extra 1m would probably be very handy for his transfer budget at Bolton.

[dillhallblue]

On behalf of all Burnley fans 'Nicko', I just want to say thankyou so much for dragging my beloved clubs name through the dirt at the behest of that odious little Glaswegian you call a friend.

Bolton deserve Coyle, and I am glad that we won't have you unsettling other clubs players (Paterson and Tudgay to name two) under the banner of Burnley FC any longer.

So how did Burnley get Coyle from St Johnstone ??????

And didn't they poach him when St Johnstone were about 10 days away from playing in a cup final !!!!!!

I just wish all dingles would stop trying to put there own spin on the saga & understand what goes around, comes around !!!!!!

Welcome to the the Premier League !!!!!! Believe me, this will be only the start of it all !!!!!!

[longsiders1882]

Think it was 3 days before the cup final.

As far as I know we got Coyle because the club received an email indicating he would be interested in the job - or something like that, can't remember who the email came from now but that was the story I heard.

I agree, what goes around comes around - hardly means your club has to bend over and take the shafting without at least putting up a fight. We all know these things happen but only half the story is hitting the Mirror and some of the stunts that appear to have been pulled are quite breath taking.

I'm pleased to see Burnley holding out - frankly I'd love to see this dragged to the court. As a club we planned for the likely event of relegation and can handle it - stopping this appointment for 6-8 weeks, even if it costs us 1 million, would feel like a minor victory to most Burnley fans.

Oh and the smart money now seems to be shifting to the current St Johnstone manager - jesus how popular would we be up there if that happens.

[dillhallblue]

Think it was 3 days before the cup final.

As far as I know we got Coyle because the club received an email indicating he would be interested in the job - or something like that, can't remember who the email came from now but that was the story I heard.

I agree, what goes around comes around - hardly means your club has to bend over and take the shafting without at least putting up a fight. We all know these things happen but only half the story is hitting the Mirror and some of the stunts that appear to have been pulled are quite breath taking.

I'm pleased to see Burnley holding out - frankly I'd love to see this dragged to the court. As a club we planned for the likely event of relegation and can handle it - stopping this appointment for 6-8 weeks, even if it costs us 1 million, would feel like a minor victory to most Burnley fans.

Oh and the smart money now seems to be shifting to the current St Johnstone manager - jesus how popular would we be up there if that happens.

How can this go to court at this moment in time ....... Burnley have suspended Coyle from work !!! Or as they say - on gardening leave.

It is now upto Burnley to invite him back to work or release him from his contract ...... i.e. sack him, give him his p45 !!!!!! Which wont happen.

And Bolton wont budge from there set price !!!!!!!! Its a stalemate !!!!

This is a long long way away from going to the courts longsider

[Anti-Dingle-Brigade]

Whilst this is obviously a real pain for Bolton and Burnley alike...

It's not half funny to watch! Burnley fans are saying the search for a new manager should extend over every available manager. A "dog eat dog" style thing I think they called it. Hypocrites or what?

Nicko is getting more of a pasting than Coyle on CarrotsMad now. I hope he has thick skin.

[Steve Moss]

How can this go to court at this moment in time ....... Burnley have suspended Coyle from work !!! Or as they say - on gardening leave.

It is now upto Burnley to invite him back to work or release him from his contract ...... i.e. sack him, give him his p45 !!!!!! Which wont happen.

Doesn't Burnley have another option? Hire another manager but keep Coyle on 'gardening' leave indefinetly. So long as they pay him his contract price, he'd have little grounds for complaint.

[braddock]

Doesn't Burnley have another option? Hire another manager but keep Coyle on 'gardening' leave indefinetly. So long as they pay him his contract price, he'd have little grounds for complaint.

they can't afford that. paying coyles wages, no compensation money and paying a new manager. unless they kept SD in as caretaker, but that would be catastrophic for them.

[longsiders1882]

How can this go to court at this moment in time ....... Burnley have suspended Coyle from work !!! Or as they say - on gardening leave.

It is now upto Burnley to invite him back to work or release him from his contract ...... i.e. sack him, give him his p45 !!!!!! Which wont happen.

And Bolton wont budge from there set price !!!!!!!! Its a stalemate !!!!

This is a long long way away from going to the courts longsider

Agreed - unless he tries to follow through on this legal advice he has and walks of course - I mean it seems he is so confident of his legal position that this will be his next move - presumably tomorrow because they want him in place for Saturday. I guess at that point Burnley will decide what to do. The more likely scenario is some sort of compromise will be reached, contract law is complicated at the best of times.

[RevidgeBlue]

Nicko is getting more of a pasting than Coyle on CarrotsMad now. I hope he has thick skin.

What does he expect posting on the "Coyle can walk out thread" as getiton98 pretending to be a Bolton fan?

And I need to get out more.

[USABlue]

I would hate to think Burnley had met a manager's agent this afternoon...

What a terrible story that would be if it came out.

And with a manager still in the job at Turf Moor too.

Unless they were the same manager

I'm not revelling. I didn't want it to work out like this

There are two very key pieces of information about Owen's departure that have yet to come to light. They will stay that way for now.

I hope they get the right guy and I will try to find out first.

That's called 'stuffing' not revelling.

Don't suppose I will provide them with the name that wins them the £60 million prize this time, mind you.

ANd here was me thinking your clarrot affection was solely Coyle based. Seems not.

Upon further reading maybe you best not be seen around dingledom for a while. Sounds like a farce all round now, one which I am enjoying. Simon Grayson seems like a good Manager, after all Burnleh are much bigger than Leeds now surely he'd be interested.

Also, wasn't there some rumblings about Coyle going to Bolton before the season even started, I sort of dropped interest in that after he turned down Celtic. I thought for sure if he turned down Celtic he must be at the clarrots for the long haul. Glad he isn't.

[Seedstral]

If it is Nicko on carrots mad as getiton he seems to have upset quite a few folk who only a week ago hung on his every word which to me is pure quality!! Get in Nicko!! For what its worth which is probably nothing much i think Brendan Flood will be found out to have dropped a massive clanger in all this and will be vilified big time when the truth really comes out by our carrot friends as him and loverboy Kilby i do believe are on the verge of a big divorce after recent events. Like i say i could be wrong but i doubt it!!

[RevidgeBlue]

That's all well and good for now as it is them, but I'll say on here what I have been irritated into saying on there. I don't agree with nicko's role in all this because in the future it might be our manager he is pally with and trying to help spirit away.

[Miker]

Eh I'm not buying any of this. I'm sorry, but if Owen Coyle truly left Burnley for Bolton because more money was offered, then it must have been a hell of a lot more money than he was on previously. The Burnley board shouldn't have allowed Coyle to speak to Gartside in the first place. If Coyle is that important to the team, they should've told him they aren't willing to let him go. By allowing him to talk to Gartside, Burnley showed that they lack ambition in keeping Coyle and are willing to cash in on him.

[Iceman]

Believe it or not Iceman that is the strong rumour this end - very very strong.

i can only think of that, or Flood/Kilby had a falling out with Coyle on transfers/ finances and Coyle was not happy with what he may get to spend. The fact that Nicko wont go into detail just yet, suggests that whatever happened may have been big @#/? going down. I cant for 1 minute understand that Coyle would have jumped ship sideways, without a major fall out with somebody. If Coyle had been offered say the Liverpool job, or a Job at Everton or Villa, then i could understand that.

[Miker]

i can only think of that, or Flood/Kilby had a falling out with Coyle on transfers/ finances and Coyle was not happy with what he may get to spend. The fact that Nicko wont go into detail just yet, suggests that whatever happened may have been big @#/? going down. I cant for 1 minute understand that Coyle would have jumped ship sideways, without a major fall out with somebody. If Coyle had been offered say the Liverpool job, or a Job at Everton or Villa, then i could understand that.

didn't he decline a move to Bolton and Celtic previously?

[philipl]

Nicko's piece in the Mirror underlined the point I was making that Burnley had again undermined their position viz a viz compensation by publicly letting it be known they were actively seeking a successor whilst OC was on gardening leave.

Burnley's last throw of a dice on this one is threat of High Court action- potentially delaying Coyle's move to Notlob. However, their ability to screw money out of the Trotters is going down and not up and even going to the High Court is going to cost the dingles because to maintain their actual loss position, they cannot go out and hire a new manager they could present to the fans as being the best thing since sliced bread.

Nicko's mention of the £1m is clearly the level at which the compo deal will be settled at when the lawyers get round the table and thrash this out. But it has to be said the dingles have made so many false steps, even that amount must be at risk now.

I will repeat, the difference between the dingles' handling of this and John Williams' handling of the Mark Hughes departure is massive and only further underlines how fortunate Rovers are to have JW (even if he got the successor selection all wrong).

[Hughesy]

Nice twist

Coyle can quit Burnley for nothing

Love it! Nicko get him to quit and give those dingles nothing..... told you Wednesday he could quit & take the job.

[PAFELL]

Brendan Flood wants a young and up-and-coming manager - for several reasons.

Picking one and finding one who wants to come may not be straightforward.

Read his book...they made a right pig's ear of it last time until someone dug them out of a hole.

I wouldn't touch Curbishley or Dowie.

I can think of one guy who would be an ideal 'new Coyle' in every way but that will have to stay with me for the moment.

Paul Ince may want it