[Archived] Megson Sacked, Coyle Takes Over

[RevidgeBlue]

SSN have just announced the appointment of Coyle at Bolton on a 2 and half year deal.

They seem to think Burnley got their 3.6m compo.

[niggit]

Could be Nicko, could be not, but still funny http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=104&fid=297&sty=2&act=1&mid=2123330850

[Hughesy]

SSN have just announced the appointment of Coyle at Bolton on a 2 and half year deal.

They seem to think Burnley got their 3.6m compo.

Gone?! Fantastic!

[RevidgeBlue]

Could be Nicko, could be not, but still funny http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=104&fid=297&sty=2&act=1&mid=2123330850

It does seem to be nicko winding the natives up by claiming they only got 1.1m compo.

He also predicts in another part of the thread that Gary Neville will be player coach under Mike Phelan but that for betting purposes you will only get paid out on Phelan.

[longsiders1882]

Early reports suggesting we got the full compensation demanded - seems odd if true, what with Coyle being able to simply walk anytime he wanted.

Done up like a kipper? Well if Bolton have paid 3 million plus they have been.

And the Gary Neville thing? Well maybe true but I'd be very surprised if Nicko is welcome anywhere near turf moor in the near future.

[tcj_jones]

I'm surprised that the contract is only two-and-a-half years. If he does well and is offered a better job elsewhere, then Bolton would get back very little of the £3.6m compensation they've just shed out.

[philipl]

Coyle has arguably done that himself by indicating he wants to leave then reaffirming that desire the following day. I would imagine that's what Burnley's legal team have advised them.

I very much doubt Burnley failed to take legal advice before they sat down for that Press conference. The comment from Flood about Coyle moving sideways no doubt riled Coyle prompting him to get his retaliation into the Press via nicko. Very thin ice bearing in mind he's supposed to be subject to a gagging order.

Rev, have you ever employed anybody? Unfortunately or fortunately, employment law means carefully and rigorously going by the book and to a certain extent suspending notions of what is fair and reasonable. First you do everything by the book, only then can you apply commonsense.

I am not going to type anything here about a Burnley director that would get this MB into trouble but this whole thing smacks of emotions and gut reactions, a lack of cool judgement and not being sensible by talking to lawyers before the damage was done which, let's say, is commonly known to be not entirely out of character.

I don't think Coyle has put a foot wrong in his handling of this thing and as far as I can tell there is absolutely nothing in the press that is either attributed to him nor is there anything that only he, uniquely could have known.

I think most of your guesses Rev are likely to be well wide of the mark, particularly when you talk of Coyle retaliating through nicko. Coyle has nothing to retaliate about- the way Burnley have handled this has seemingly strengthened his situation at every turn and I am not surprised that he got his release to enter into a contract with Bolton this afternoon. Lets see this time next year if the dingles received £3.6m; their accounts are sufficiently small for it to be easy to spot if they got it and also to work out if it is not there.

On a lighter note, I saw this on Clarets Mad:

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[RevidgeBlue]

Rev, have you ever employed anybody? Unfortunately or fortunately, employment law means carefully and rigorously going by the book and to a certain extent suspending notions of what is fair and reasonable. First you do everything by the book, only then can you apply commonsense.

I am not going to type anything here about a Burnley director that would get this MB into trouble but this whole thing smacks of emotions and gut reactions, a lack of cool judgement and not being sensible by talking to lawyers before the damage was done which, let's say, is commonly known to be not entirely out of character.

I don't think Coyle has put a foot wrong in his handling of this thing and as far as I can tell there is absolutely nothing in the press that is either attributed to him nor is there anything that only he, uniquely could have known.

I think most of your guesses Rev are likely to be well wide of the mark, particularly when you talk of Coyle retaliating through nicko. Coyle has nothing to retaliate about- the way Burnley have handled this has seemingly strengthened his situation at every turn and I am not surprised that he got his release to enter into a contract with Bolton this afternoon. Lets see this time next year if the dingles received £3.6m; their accounts are sufficiently small for it to be easy to spot if they got it and also to work out if it is not there.

I know you're always desperate to portray every other club as desperately badly run in comparison to Rovers but you're overdoing it greatly here.

How then if Coyle didn't retaliate through the Press did Coyle's legal advice find it's way into the Mirror? That advice is covered by Solicitor/Client privilege and could only have been divulged to nicko by either

a) The LMA's Barrister or

b ) Coyle

Go figure.

[JAL]

Lets see this time next year if the dingles received £3.6m; their accounts are sufficiently small for it to be easy to spot if they got it and also to work out if it is not there.

[RevidgeBlue]

I'm surprised that the contract is only two-and-a-half years. If he does well and is offered a better job elsewhere, then Bolton would get back very little of the £3.6m compensation they've just shed out.

That surprised me as well. Nicko posting on the claret footymad boards earlier under the username "1mnicko" claimed that was because Megson had only been on a rolling contract and 2-3 contracts were the norm in the Prem.

Sam did well here if that is indeed true.

[Blue blood]

Just watched the Kilby interview on BBC website. Blimey he looked so rattled, frail, devestated and out of his depth I was beginning to feel sorry for him.

Having that guy in charge wouldn't inspire me to have any confidence in the club. I know media interviews aren't the be all and end all of what makes a good chairman/ceo/whatever but I'd expect anyone in business to put on a better show than that.

[Moorey]

Just watched the Kilby interview on BBC website. Blimey he looked so rattled, frail, devestated and out of his depth I was beginning to feel sorry for him.

Having that guy in charge wouldn't inspire me to have any confidence in the club. I know media interviews aren't the be all and end all of what makes a good chairman/ceo/whatever but I'd expect anyone in business to put on a better show than that.

Aye, terrible Chairman. Ten years, two promotions, no relegations and overseeing the club's operation at levels which outstrip it's size.

[Anti Euro Smiths Fan]

A number of Burnley fans are suggesting that Owen Coyle is allegedly having a homosexual relationship with Alan Nixon.

I'd like to make it clear that there's no evidence to suggest this allegation is true or that Messrs Nixon and Coyle are anything other than just good friends - at the moment at least.

Some rather sordid language has been used by Burnley fans in the link below to suggest the nature of the alleged gay relationship between the two Scotsmen.

LINK HERE

Is it just me or does anybody else think that some of the stick and vicious criticism that Nicko is getting from Burnley fans is completely over-the-top?

After all, considering that it was apparently Mr Nixon who first pointed Burnley in the right direction of Owen Coyle, they should remember that if it hadn't been for Nicko then perhaps they wouldn't have been promoted to the top flight for the first time since 1976. Without Coyle, Burnley might still be languishing in the bottom half of the Championship and they may have missed out on the £60m or however much it is from gaining entry to the Premier League.

As Nicko has said, nobody from Burnley ever gave him any praise or standing ovations for his input in the choice of Coyle as manager, so why is he getting so much abuse now?

I've been paid out this evening by Betfair on my £40 bet on Coyle to be Bolton's manager. When Megson was first sacked I initially didn't think that Coyle would move from Burnley, so unfortunately I didn't take the price of 17 (16/1) that I saw on offer. My bet was at a later stage at 2.2 (5/4).

Current Betfair odds on the next Burnley Manager (at the time of this current post)

Paul Jewell 6.4 (11/2)

Alan Curbishley 9 (8/1)

Paul Lambert 11 (10/1)

Mike Phelan 12 (11/1)

Steve Davis 13.5 (Between 12/1 and 13/1)

Steve Coppell 13 (12/1)

Simon Grayson 15.5 (Between 14/1 and 15/1)

Brian Laws 16 (15/1)

Gareth Southgate 21 (20/1)

[Kelbo]

I know you're always desperate to portray every other club as desperately badly run in comparison to Rovers but you're overdoing it greatly here.

How then if Coyle didn't retaliate through the Press did Coyle's legal advice find it's way into the Mirror? That advice is covered by Solicitor/Client privilege and could only have been divulged to nicko by either

a) The LMA's Barrister or

b ) Coyle

Go figure.

So Coyle tells his wife whats going on and maybe tells her sister or brother who then tells Nicko!! Thats how it works nowadays and has for many a year!!

[FourLaneBlue]

A lot of the things coming out from Burnley fans are over the top. Calling Coyle a "Judas" is just a bit embarrasing. They nicked (or Nixon-ed him a certain poster on here might say) him from St Johnstone. After doing wonders he moves on to what he believes is a better opportunity.

Now...no surprise they are annoyed. Rovers fans would be. Not that many would be going completely over the top as are doing in Burnley however. Levels of hate and bile being spat out are a bit much even many Burnley fans must agree.

Maybe it is because it has not happened for so long but there is a lack of perspective from many. I can't see how the behaviour of Coyle was particularly different to that of Hughes when he left us. If anything Hughes had been looking around for jobs for some time longer than Coyle had. Don't remember Hughes turning down Celtic or, indeed, anyone. Seemed to like the look of Newcastle before they chose Keegan instead.

Equally as bizarre is Alan Nixon going on there...I don't think he will change any minds just now. Bad timing!

Actually, it reminds me of John Bond. How many other clubs have had woeful managers in the past? How many reach those kinds of levels of hatred and animosity? There really must be something in the water over there...

[longsiders1882]

Just watched the Kilby interview on BBC website. Blimey he looked so rattled, frail, devestated and out of his depth I was beginning to feel sorry for him.

Having that guy in charge wouldn't inspire me to have any confidence in the club. I know media interviews aren't the be all and end all of what makes a good chairman/ceo/whatever but I'd expect anyone in business to put on a better show than that.

Would you? You go on holiday and everything is tickety boo, suddenly you find out that your manager has been talking to another club and you have to urgently fly back to try and undo all the damage that was done the Thursday before - oops sorry what am I saying, I mean on the Sunday?

Still looks can be deceptive, I'm perfectly happy with him in charge thanks. I couldn't imagine anyone better to be honest.

Glad it is done. We can get one with appointing the replacement manager and be left to wonder, what if. Be interesting to see how well Bolton do now, I just wish he could have gone at a time and to a club where I could wish him well but the timing and especially the team (as fellow relegation candidates) make this impossible for me.

[unluckymorton]

Would you? You go on holiday and everything is tickety boo, suddenly you find out that your manager has been talking to another club and you have to urgently fly back to try and undo all the damage that was done the Thursday before - oops sorry what am I saying, I mean on the Sunday?

Still looks can be deceptive, I'm perfectly happy with him in charge thanks. I couldn't imagine anyone better to be honest.

Glad it is done. We can get one with appointing the replacement manager and be left to wonder, what if. Be interesting to see how well Bolton do now, I just wish he could have gone at a time and to a club where I could wish him well but the timing and especially the team (as fellow relegation candidates) make this impossible for me.

I understand where you are coming from, the fella has had a real rough ride in the past week and from what I've seen has handled it pretty well. Not many would have the balls to stand up to the media and try to explain the situation in the way he has. He may have seemed rattled but thats probably because he was and he's tried to say it as it is. It hurts me to say but he has done a tremendous job at the club and is about to make probably the biggest decision in his life. I won't shed any tears if the dingles are relegated and I revel in their demise as that has been bred into me but I'd rather have a Lancashire team, a team that creates 2 MASSIVE games per season for us than the likes of Reading, Crystal Palace or Cardiff in the Premier League.

[Miker]

What are the chances of them hiring Southgate as the new manager? Worth a punt?

[Kelbo]

What are the chances of them hiring Southgate as the new manager? Worth a punt?

No, take a punt on Sandy Stewart or Hughes from Hibs!!!

[philipl]

Guardian's report- managers not interested in the dingles listed in the last para.

[Sandiway Blue]

there is a strong rumour flying around that Burnley tried to sell Chris Eagles to either Everton Or Spurs for approx £4m behind coyle`s back.Any truth in this Nicko? Can`t see it myself..

[S15]

there is a strong rumour flying around that Burnley tried to sell Chris Eagles to either Everton Or Spurs for approx £4m behind coyle`s back.Any truth in this Nicko? Can`t see it myself..

That's probably a pretty delicate turn of phrase considering the current allegations being levelled at Mr Nixon.

[Fylde Coast Fan]

I see the Dingles have taken to using the comments function on MirrorFootball to call Nicko's stories untrue. You'd think the quotes from people involved would be a clue - no journo would ever invent a direct quote, everyone knows if you're making up a story for the gutter press you just paraphrase "an insider".

[Seedstral]

Now that this saga has ended i hope the truth will really come out as there have been far too many conspiracy theories for a lot of it to be false. Our claret friends have been shown up for what they really are to be honest a club that struck lucky at the right time. Flood has admitted with the clubs future existance and it paid off. Well if he was in charge of my club taking that gamble regardless of whether it came off or not i'd be outraged and would want him ousted straight away. Its widely acknowledged that John Williams is a fantastic man to be in charge of our football club and long may it continue as the bloke as never been anything but honest about our state of affairs which a lot of the time splits opinion especially on the manager issue but at least our football club is never dragged through the mire like our friends down the road have been. One day some people will wake up and realise just how good a club we support because after hearing rumour after rumour and a future manager market like they've got there is no doubt in my mind there is and always will be 1 Pride Of Lancashire and its not them clowns down the road!!!

[Steve Moss]

I know you're always desperate to portray every other club as desperately badly run in comparison to Rovers but you're overdoing it greatly here.

To be fair to Philip, he sings Chelsea's and Aston Villa's praises also. So his management 'praise' is not limited to the Rovers. Deservedly so, as I think Chelsea, Aston Villa and Rovers are all well run clubs (unlike some-cough-cough-ManC-cough-ManU).

A number of Burnley fans are suggesting that Owen Coyle is allegedly having a homosexual relationship with Alan Nixon.

I doubt this is true but even if it were, so what? Burnley fans are again demonstrating themselves as narrow minded bigots by trying to use this 'insult' against Coyle.

A lot of the things coming out from Burnley fans are over the top. Calling Coyle a "Judas" is just a bit embarrasing.

Considering that Coyle is the reason they finally made the big time, Burnley fans are again demonstrating that they are truly idiots. Coyle got them to the EPL. He was a good manager for them. He's moving on and they're acting like scorned women. Maybe they should ask themselves why he decided to walk out, as opposed to heaping ridicule on him. Might help them to figure out how to keep the next decent manager to come along (if one ever does).

there is a strong rumour flying around that Burnley tried to sell Chris Eagles to either Everton Or Spurs for approx £4m behind coyle`s back.Any truth in this Nicko? Can`t see it myself..

If its true, it might explain Nicko's confidence that Coyle was the one done in by Burnley's board, not vice versa. In which case there are more than a few Burnley fans who should admit they were trying to tar and feather the wrong man. Not that they will, as introspection is not a trait usually associated with the excessively inbred.