[Archived] Megson Sacked, Coyle Takes Over

[Taggart]

Neither Davis nor the other bloke know if the new Burnley boss will fancy them - so you can't blame them for moving.

But don't expect that poaching them at this stage will make OC any more popular around those parts. As I'm sure you realise.

Sorry RevidgeBlue - been building up for a while now over the last year or so, what`s your agenda against Nicko ? as to be honest every post you make against him is negative and looking for ways to unpick his postings with snide, wit and to be honest yet again, annoyance! what`s the agenda eh !

[thenodrog]

Sorry RevidgeBlue - been building up for a while now over the last year or so, what`s your agenda against Nicko ? as to be honest every post you make against him is negative and looking for ways to unpick his postings with snide, wit and to be honest yet again, annoyance! what`s the agenda eh !

I think you need to address both protagonists equally cos Alan Nixon is all those things toward Rev Blue.... in fact to anybody who questions his opinion in any way.

I guess a streetfighter attitude is a requirement of his profession.

[RevidgeBlue]

Sorry RevidgeBlue - been building up for a while now over the last year or so, what`s your agenda against Nicko ? as to be honest every post you make against him is negative and looking for ways to unpick his postings with snide, wit and to be honest yet again, annoyance! what`s the agenda eh !

No agenda whatsoever.

Why aren't people allowed to disagree with him on certain things?

What's your agenda?

[American]

The Sun reported? You really crashed and burned there.

The figure was £1 million - as per contract.

Owen was told by the LMA he could have gone for nothing. He didn't want to.

Keep your daft theories, I will stick with the reality.

And what did Burnley's lawyers say, or did you bother to call them before writing your press release, oops, article?

[Taggart]

No agenda whatsoever.

Why aren't people allowed to disagree with him on certain things?

What's your agenda?

Don`t get me wrong, no issue with disagreements or the like, it just seems to be a common theme that`s all. Nicko seems to post what he feels fit on these message boards, but don`t understand why he is challenged all the time when he is bringing his and his works opinion with him. I understand questioning what he posts if you feel overtly oppossed or bemused by it, but not every time surely ? especially when he is bringing news about our club without the requirement for hidden agenda`s etc.

I`m not looking to pick bones or anything, just felt the need to ask it RevidgeBlue ; My agenda, guess i`m like you on that one.

[longsiders1882]

You know that, I know that and just about everybody outside of Bumley knows that. Problem is that logic cannot be applied in conjunction with strong emotion. It's like being married to the most beautiful woman in town with a figure to die for with a healthy appetite for sex and few inhibitions. Would you throw a party when she suddenly leaves you for the bloke next door whose just won 50k on the lottery?

Classic analogy, sums it up perfectly.

on the compo/Coyle could walk thing. I'd imagine the LMA barrister giave his legal opinion and it is just that, opinion. It could be a different barrister would have a different interpretation of events/facts/clauses. I'd imagine nobody really wanted to get into a protracted legal battle.

[Taggart]

You know that, I know that and just about everybody outside of Bumley knows that. Problem is that logic cannot be applied in conjunction with strong emotion. It's like being married to the most beautiful woman in town with a figure to die for with a healthy appetite for sex and few inhibitions. Would you throw a party when she suddenly leaves you for the bloke next door whose just won 50k on the lottery?

Brilliant - top quality !

[nicko]

Why?

If you go back and "check your facts" as you keep advising me to you'll see that 1.5m was in fact the figure reported in the Sun.

What would The Sun know?

Funny. You take their guess and quote it.

And ignore the fact.

[begresko]

Funny how Simon Davey just popped up on the burnley manager market on betfair... Wonder who did that?

[nicko]

Really well Owen Coyle doesn't sign the cheques at Bolton and never will.

Fact.

And the bloke who does is a hard bitten buggger who imo would rather stick pins in his eyes than chuck away £1m for no reason. They are not Man City for goodness sakes, Bolton are hard up. As I said it doesn't quite 'feel' right to me.

Fortunately Owen Coyle has more about him than you.

And what did Burnley's lawyers say, or did you bother to call them before writing your press release, oops, article?

You will notice that Burnley chose to accept the compensation figure in his deal and the Bolton offer within a matter of hours of that LMA legal stance.

I don't know what their lawyers said but I presume it was something like 'oh f***.'

on the compo/Coyle could walk thing. I'd imagine the LMA barrister giave his legal opinion and it is just that, opinion. It could be a different barrister would have a different interpretation of events/facts/clauses. I'd imagine nobody really wanted to get into a protracted legal battle.

Let's get the compo thing straight.

There was a figure in Owen's contract. One year's salary.

And yet Burnley leaked to Sunday papers last week BEFORE he met Bolton that they wanted £4 million.

After that they leaked to Sky and other papers that they wanted £3.6 million or £3 million.

How do I know this? I know who did it.

The only people lying about the figure were...fill in the dots.

[Zulu]

Just looked at the Clarets Mads site and saw this little gem in the History section (Burnley managers).

When manager Harry Bradshaw departed for Woolwich Arsenal in 1899, Burnley turned to Bolton Wanderers director Ernest Mangnall to manage the club into the twentieth century.

So the cheeky two-faced barstewards have got form too! What goes around comes around!

[nicko]

Funny how Simon Davey just popped up on the burnley manager market on betfair... Wonder who did that?

Hilarious.

As funny as Paul Ince posted too.

The mind played a trick on me. I thought Doncaster had beaten Burnley home and away.

Whoops, there's a clue about another candidate.

[RevidgeBlue]

You will notice that Burnley chose to accept the compensation figure in his deal and the Bolton offer within a matter of hours of that LMA legal stance.

I don't know what their lawyers said but I presume it was something like 'oh f***.'

I'm sure Bolton's lawyers said pretty much the same when they saw their client's privileged legal advice in a newspaper.

Despite him being subject to a gagging order.

[philipl]

I fully believe m'learned friend QC told OC he could walk away right then and that Bolton would probably prevail in any Court action Burnley would mount given all the cock-ups made by the dingles.

But... there was still a realistic risk of Burnley delaying things by cutting up rough, not forgetting what walking would do to OC's reputation. OC had to consider what message just walking out would send to other potential employers and having stuck within the terms of his contract so far and not incurring any risk personally, why would he complicate things unnecessarily for himself as opposed to letting the terms of the contract he signed with Burnley (which clearly anticipated his leaving- Burnley fans please note) take their natural course?

I'd have thought if he had walked, the dingles would have had a decent chance of getting an interim injunction from the High Court to prevent Bolton enjoying the benefit of OC's services before the compensation issue had been fully resolved.

That said, the dingles were actually pretty fortunate to get their £1m and only did so because of OC's passivity. A combination of stupid screw ups in the way they handled the whole situation and trying to leg-over Notlob for £3m probably came desperately close to them getting zilch. However, the 8th of January is not a time for either the dingles or Bolton to start a High Court scrap even on an expedited basis. There would have been a risk both clubs could have reached the transfer window's end without a management team in place and I am sure that risk persuaded Bolton to hand over the £1m they almost certainly knew they were in for even before they rang the naively accomodating Mr Flood.

[nicko]

I'm sure Bolton's lawyers said pretty much the same when they saw their client's privileged legal advice in a newspaper.

Despite him being subject to a gagging order.

If I knew what that meant I would reply.

[Hughesy]

nicko reply to pm if you can mate

[ffan]

Bolton Wanderers have inquired about Steven Fletcher becoming the first player to follow Owen Coyle from Burnley. The Scotland forward has scored nine goals in 22 appearances this season.

the times

[nicko]

Bolton Wanderers have inquired about Steven Fletcher becoming the first player to follow Owen Coyle from Burnley. The Scotland forward has scored nine goals in 22 appearances this season.

the times

Not right.

[jnrscoop]

Hilarious.

As funny as Paul Ince posted too.

The mind played a trick on me. I thought Doncaster had beaten Burnley home and away.

Whoops, there's a clue about another candidate.

damn I just backed him (PI) lol...come on darren lewis, ramp him up tomoro!!

[philipl]

I'm sure Bolton's lawyers said pretty much the same when they saw their client's privileged legal advice in a newspaper.

Despite him being subject to a gagging order.

Eh?

Anybody can read Employment Law. The dingles screwed up and he could have walked out. You don't need a QC to tell you that.

What nicko is being quiet about is there would have been a risk that Burnley could have got at least a temporary injunction to prevent Bolton from employing him after he had walked out.

[Zulu]

Nicko

Are we in for any of the Burnley squad? Eagles apart there's not many who set the pulse racing, although I've only seen them on TV this season.

[nicko]

Enough already.

Who is backing Sean O'Driscoll for the Burnley job?

This is becoming a bit too bizarre.

Nicko

Are we in for any of the Burnley squad? Eagles apart there's not many who set the pulse racing, although I've only seen them on TV this season.

Not in this window.

[RevidgeBlue]

Eh?

Anybody can read Employment Law. The dingles screwed up and he could have walked out. You don't need a QC to tell you that.

Philip don't post such tosh, you know nothing of the sort.

The opinion from the LMA barrister was exactly that. There are two sides to every legal dispute.

However had there been a protracted legal battle, both sides could have been without a manager for a lengthy period and I presume both sides would have wanted to settle asap.

[philipl]

Not in this window.

And that is a boot straight to the dingle dangly bits if ever I saw one...

Coyle will be hanging around the dingles like Hughes did with RSC- summer window after January window after summer window et seq

[stuwilky]

Philip don't post such tosh, you know nothing of the sort.

The opinion from the LMA barrister was exactly that. There are two sides to every legal dispute.

However had there been a protracted legal battle, both sides could have been without a manager for a lengthy period and I presume both sides would have wanted to settle asap.

There are indeed two sides to every dispute, and it only needs someone with a working knowledge of employment law to see where the errors lie. And I'll give you a clue, it isnt Owen Coyle.