[Archived] Enough Is Enough

[Brfcrule1]

Hi all,

I can not believe what I am seeing here first off Sparky would never come back if people remember he left because he had no finances to work with and he had to shop around for bargain basement deals why would he come back to an even worse situation with no money secondly where would the compo come from to sack BFS and all his staff are we hoping to pay him off with magic beans and if we get rid now we will become the Newcastle of the premiership sacking managers when things are not going well ok the league position looks precarious but he has more than enough winnable games to get us out of this before the end of the year also if we have to search for another manager we all want a top class manager who would come here with the finances we have to spend on players and who would do better under these restrictions & boycotting tommorrow's game is not the way forward we need to get down to Ewood and cheer the team onto a possible wembley appearance however I agree with some things one thing BFS could do better is organise the team what players he has to perform to a better level cos I'm sure they (theplayers) are not hitting the levels they should Oh and BFS sort it out our MF is threadbare tie this guy Camel Merium to a deal his passing is second to none.

[tonygreenbank]

How very depressing this thread is! Started a few minutes after the final whistle blew by a man who cant wait to stick the verbal knife into our manager at every opportunity.

I believe that the postponement from last week has not helped Rovers planning. From what I have read and heard from Sam and the players over the last weeks he has targetted the Carling Cup as a means to take the club forward by reaching a major final and even the possibility of getting into Europe.

I sensed on Monday that the players were not 100% focused but were thinking of the semi final to come.Rightly or wrongly for a club of our limited resources to come tantalisingly close to Wembley has got to be a factor.

It was not pleasant to watch that performance on Monday but a committed performance tomorrow will help to ease some people`s pain. And yes I think we will see a different Rovers tomorrow.

I do think that we will stay up as we have better players than most teams at the wrong end of the table.Sam is a good manager who has had some unfortunate injury problems with his squad.

I also think that Sam also knows the weak links in the side as we can. His problem is having the money to remedy those weaknesses.This month will see some significant changes hopefully.

To consider a change of manager again at the club for me is most unwelcome.With Hughes leaving and Ince being sacked within the past year stability is needed now.

[thenodrog]

The funny thing is Gav I think a lot of our opinions on Allardyce and the current situation with the team would be very similar. The main difference IMO is I want him to succeed, whereas I'm not too sure you do.

And there's the rub.

[Stuart]

I think you're right to a point Tony. I said after the match that (being kind) they played like a team trying to avoid injuries and suspensions ahead of Thursday.

But that's still no excuse. I think on the back of Monday, Sam may well weild the axe, and there wouldn't be a single player who didn't deserve it to fall on them.

[thenodrog]

I think Mellinson is being generous when he gives him 4 games. It's 2 at most for me, and I think that it generous.

I cannot believe that there won't be a manager out there, that will be willing to come, that will be able to set us up better as a team, will give us some shape, some direction, some tactics, some fighting spirit, and will be able to get more out of what we already have.

If that man is in the lower league's, then so be it. I will not believe that Allardyce is the only man capable of "keeping us up".

Thats not good enough at all. Name them. Give us your list of at least 3 suitably better replacements.

[bob fleming]

I said after the match that (being kind) they played like a team trying to avoid injuries and suspensions ahead of Thursday.

Givet and Nzonzi did well at the end then didn't they? But I agree, we didn't put it in away from home (again). Maybe it wasn't one of the games "targeted" to get point or points? What a crock of siht. Since when did Blackburn Rovers not try to compete in every game?

Admittedly we could have played at 100% of our potential and played the right formation and still lost. How City would have complained about having to move out of 1st gear though?

We could turn Villa over tomorrow. Do a Chelsea on them. That makes things even more infuriating. That Chelsea match was the most exciting all season by a country mile (bar the predictable burnley win). We could easily have lost it, we could have won it. It was fun though. But not good for ones health I'd imagine.

[thenodrog]

I think there are loads of quality managers out there. Jol and Bilic spring to mind, Van Gaal and Sven. However, we just cant match their ambition and we cant give them money to spend on players.

A rather pointless post iceman. You may as well have suggested Ferguson, Wenger, Mourhino and Hiddink.

[mellison24]

Thats not good enough at all. Name them. Give us your list of at least 3 suitably better replacements.

I don't think there is anyone 'better' as such. But there are people in the lower leagues who MAY perform better, but I wouldn't want to bring them in mid-season. I'd wait until the summer unless Sam REALLY F***s up:

(Not in preferential order of any kind)

Hughes (better, but no chance).

Coppell?

Dave Jones?

Gary Johnson?

Ian Holloway?

Keith Hill?

Sean O'Driscoll?

DiMatteo?

Southgate?

Having said that, what are the foreign options that I know nothing about?

[RevidgeBlue]

Here are our remaining fixtures. I think it's best to concentrate on the next six, which are absolutely crucial. I think we need a minimum of eight points from them. Fail to do this, and a change may well be necessary. For me, Bolton at home will be Allardyce's crunch game. If we are sitting on 29 / 30 points with 11 games to go, I think we'll be fine.

Fulham (h) 1 point

Wigan (h) 3 points

West Ham (a)0 points

Stoke (a) 1 point

Hull (h) 3 points

Bolton (h) 1 point

Liverpool (a) 0 points

Birmingham (h)1 point

Spurs (a) 0 points

Chelsea (h) 0 points

Burnley (a) 3 points

Portsmouth (a)1 point

Man United (h)0 points

Everton (h) 1 point

Wolves (a) 1 point

Arsenal (h)0 points

Villa (a)0 points

Looking at those remaining fixtures I gave us a pretty generous nine points from the first six games and still only came up with 37 points by the end of the season - which may or may not be enough to survive.

Whilst predictions are of course an inexact science if we don't make hay from those first six fixtures then we are really struggling. If there was to be a managerial change it needs to be fast to give the new man a realistic chance.

That and the finances might gravitate against a change.

[dixonbrfc]

I don't think there is anyone 'better' as such. But there are people in the lower leagues who MAY perform better, but I wouldn't want to bring them in mid-season. I'd wait until the summer unless Sam REALLY F***s up:

(Not in preferential order of any kind)

Hughes (better, but no chance).

Coppell?

Dave Jones?

Gary Johnson?

Ian Holloway?

Keith Hill?

Sean O'Driscoll?

DiMatteo?

Southgate?

them must be a joke!!! and can i just point out that reading have just beaten liverpool AWAY by playing football not hoofball! watch and learn fatty!

Having said that, what are the foreign options that I know nothing about?

[my_name_is_Earl]

I'd have a look at Steve McClaren, he's had time to restore his reputation and his team are fair attractive on the eye. Obviously his strengths are his man management skills and his ability to develop the younger players which we should be looking at with our facilities. If I was the board, I'd tap him up and ask him if he'd be interested 'if things were to change'. He can only turn us down.

I was very critical of him being on the shortlist last time due to the fact that his repuatation was shattered after the England fiasco but he's proved how good a club manager he is since he moved to Holland.

[dixonbrfc]

I don't think there is anyone 'better' as such. But there are people in the lower leagues who MAY perform better, but I wouldn't want to bring them in mid-season. I'd wait until the summer unless Sam REALLY F***s up:

(Not in preferential order of any kind)

Hughes (better, but no chance).

Coppell?

Dave Jones?

Gary Johnson?

Ian Holloway?

Keith Hill?

Sean O'Driscoll?

DiMatteo?

Southgate?

Having said that, what are the foreign options that I know nothing about?

them must be a joke!!! and can i just point out that reading have just beaten liverpool AWAY by playing football not hoofball! watch and learn fatty!

and jobi mcanuff put in another supberd performance!

[beerwins]

The responsibility of picking managers for Blackburn rovers football club doesnt lie in the fans hands it lies in the hands of John williams so he can either shape this one up or find us a better one next time.

He wouldnt do my job and I certainly dont want his.

The question asked should be who can do better than Sam and watching this season unfold there shouldnt be a shortage of answers.

[mellison24]

them must be a joke!!! and can i just point out that reading have just beaten liverpool AWAY by playing football not hoofball! watch and learn fatty!

and jobi mcanuff put in another supberd performance!

Yes it is a joke, but not intended to be funny. I don't WANT any of them, but I'm struggling for other options. I did appeal for any options that I've missed? Foreign perhaps?

McClaren.....hmmmmmm.....do we WANT more media bashings?

[my_name_is_Earl]

McClaren.....hmmmmmm.....do we WANT more media bashings?

To be fair, the media attention we receive is nothing like the attention the media give the national manager. There is a difference between managing a club and a country. McClaren could come back with his head held high after his performance in Holland and he's a lot more optimistic then BS is right now.

[RovertheHill]

I don't think there is anyone 'better' as such. But there are people in the lower leagues who MAY perform better, but I wouldn't want to bring them in mid-season. I'd wait until the summer unless Sam REALLY F***s up:

(Not in preferential order of any kind)

Hughes (better, but no chance).

Coppell?

Dave Jones?

Gary Johnson?

Ian Holloway?

Keith Hill?

Sean O'Driscoll?

DiMatteo?

Southgate?

Having said that, what are the foreign options that I know nothing about?

Chris Coleman

[mellison24]

To be fair, the media attention we receive is nothing like the attention the media give the national manager. There is a difference between managing a club and a country. McClaren could come back with his head held high after his performance in Holland and he's a lot more optimistic then BS is right now.

I would expect the first headline (if he came to manage us or any other club) to be a pun on 'Ollie's back!' when Holloway went to Bristol Rovers. For McClaren it would be 'Wally's back!'

Although, maybe it would be more affectionate....would he still not get booed throughout the country?

[thenodrog]

You don't need to illustrate it we already know. How does suggesting another inadequate manager take over illustrate anything?

If we were to sack SA then we should only look at managers who would take a contract until the end of the season. We can then look for something long term in the summer.

I would be looking at these guys for a firefighting job:

Trappatoni

George Graham (old school but I think he would ensure we stayed up)

Hughes (unlikely)

Curbishley (don't like him much but he could do the job until the end of the season)

Unbelievable! George Graham has not managed a club since 2001!

[brfcs5359]

Sams takIng us down in my view. Each month we have deterioated. If we do not get relegated this season we will next. Now is the time to change. Hoping that BFS will turn it around is like hoping MGP will to. Nothing more than wishful thinking. Someone who knew a few players said the players were unhappy. Serious discontent. They are certainly performing like that. Dunns comment that he enjoyed most under Paul Ince was a backdoor criticism from your star player.

[my_name_is_Earl]

Although, maybe it would be more affectionate....would he still not get booed throughout the country?

I see your point though in fairness, most other teams fans boo us when we turn up because we play such boring football and I can see their point. Nobody looks forward to playing us for entertainment value, we're Bolton mk2.

I honestly cannot see how Steve McClaren's former reputation can make this scenario any worse...

[thenodrog]

It's such a hard situation. The only appealing option (Hughes) is incredibly unlikely. Even then, the media will slag him and us off for not having any ambition. Surely he'd take Sam's wages (roughly 40k a week) to get back into football again? And with a team he knows about, he knows the running of the club, and maybe he understands that he is best when scouting for good young players, rather than dealing with massive egos?

The management is such a mess.....just watch that change if we win convincingly tomorrow haha

I think Hughes is on twice that to stay out of football at the moment.

[Zulu]

I suspect you can add Benitez to your list of possible replacements for Sam. The Fat Spanish Waiter must be on borrowed time now. (I still reckon Hughes will replace him at Liverpool, by the way.)

[thenodrog]

I suspect you can add Benitez to your list of possible replacements for Sam. The Fat Spanish Waiter must be on borrowed time now. (I still reckon Hughes will replace him at Liverpool, by the way.)

BRFC City and Lpool........ That'd be great on his cv should he ever put his name down for the MU job.

He'd be good for them mind.

[DE.]

I think Hughes is on twice that to stay out of football at the moment.

Exactly. City are paying him a bundle to sit home and do nothing. If he's going to go anywhere, it'll be to a job with high prospects - Liverpool perhaps, if/when Rafa gets the boot? He's already gone to City and doesn't seem to have any great affinity towards Utd. I don't think he'd take Utd into high consideration if he was offered the Liverpool job.

[RevidgeBlue]

Surely if Hughes took up another job, Chelsea still would have to make up the shortfall if he was on a lesser salary?

I'd be surprised if Hughes' agent hasn't already e-mailed his CV to Anfield!