[Archived] Keith Andrews - Time He Went

[ada2020]

I've heard Paul Ince will take over at West Ham next season and launch a £5m bid for buddy Andrews.

Keep it under you hats.

Quality.

[thenodrog]

And to think fulham offered good money to take him off our hands

Unfathomable. Just like Sparky getting 2.5m for Shefki.

I'd imagine if he'd gone that we'd have swopped places with Fulham in the Prem. Place money added to transfer fee making him quite valuable.

[Ewood and I Would]

I would love to see the Pro Zone stats for Grella and Andrews

[Majiball]

At the end of the day no matter how people feel about the abuse given out to Keith, you won't stop it.

Its best all round if we try and move him on in the summer as now he's reacted I'm sure it will just get worse.

[brian_gallagher85]

I would love to see the Pro Zone stats for Grella and Andrews

I'd love to see Grella sat in his hospital bed represented on a pro zone graph...

[broadsword]

This "debate" has now changed from a straight choice between getting rid/keep, into whether or not he has the ability to play for Rovers, (moving the goalposts anyone?).

Who's moving the goalposts? You said he wasn't our worst player. I only asked who you thought was worse, and you've come up with Grella and MGP. You can't say that Keith is a better player than Vince because he's never injured. Nonsense.

No amount of discussion on here will chaange things, but everyone's allowed an opinion. I'm sorry if you're having trouble dealing with critical evaluations of Keith, but just as the critics need to accept that they can't change team selections, you need to accept that not everyone's going to love Keith.

It's not all about ability. Teams need a blend of experience, youthful energy, spirit, panache, defensive vigour, chutzpah etc. Successful teams don't need highly talented players in each position, but they each player does need to have some ability.

The question that's still being asked, is what strengths does Keith have? Some people are still struggling to see any. Whereas those leaping to his defence say that he is a "good squad player" - totally meaningless phrase. He tries hard, but you could pluck someone from the crowd and could guarantee that they'd try hard.

What attributes does he bring to BRFC other than trying hard, willing to play in several positions, good injury record, and scoring the occasional goal?

[OscarRaven]

So for some reason Keith Andrews abilty or lack thereof seems to be more important than the fact he has assualted an innocent Rovers Supporter (bottle didn't hit guy abusing him but some poor woman), I've said all I can be bothered to say on his lack of abilty.

So for those of you just joining us and can't be bothered to read the last 5 pages of repetitive Andrews bashing and defending... Keith got some verbal and threw his bottle at a fan, missed and tonked a poor woman instead!

Wonder when his court date is and how an earth is this going to work? I mean can we sack him if he is not allowed to attend football grounds?

Or will he get special treatment? I suggest the woman puts in a formal complaint with the police he gets charged and we can cancel his contract. Job done. Come on lady your club needs you to do the decent thing!

BTW the secret to why Sam keeps picking him is this: Only Keith can remember all the complicated free kick and corner routines, so Sam has to periodically play him to refresh the team on the specific postions they should be in. Secretly Sam considers him a memeber of the coaching staff, its ingenious really - take off striker (whats the point of strikers anyway - set-plays are the way forward), replace with set-play coach.

[Amo]

Too right, Oscar. It's not pleasant that our fans are abusing him, BUT to retaliate with violence is unacceptable. If this was Diouf, people would want him hung from the rafters.

God knows how this help trying to shovel him in the summer.

[OscarRaven]

Well it's not nice and I don't like to see someone who is trying his best treated in that way, it goes against all our club stands for as far as I'm concerned.

I'm not saying any more on this thread, just disgusted really.

You are talking about the poor woman who had a water bottle launched at her aren't you? I mean this is a footballer who earns THOUSANDS of POUNDS a week and is so horribly attacked with WORDS by the people who scrape together a few pennies to contribute to his THOUSANDS of POUNDS a week - You couldn't possibly be defending him could you?

For £10,000 (god I hope we don't pay more) a week, you could verbally abuse me all you wanted, hell you could even throw (soft) fruit as well!

Your obviously a very nice person, but you are completeley off your rocker!

[Hughesy]

BUT to retaliate with violence is unacceptable. If this was Diouf, people would want him hung from the rafters.

Probably the most true post on this thread......where are all the Diouf haters who come out with all the morally correct stuff when Diouf gets a parking ticket or something trivial!?

[47er]

We also lose many more games with Andrews in....see real analysis below

Top work double D.

Basically - Grella offers us more defensive protection when fit (i.e. he does his job well) - Andrews however offers very little.

Interesting that if Grella starts & Andrews is a sub (i.e. giving someone else the chance to do the attacking midfield job) - we havent lost a game.....Includes Villa, Liverpool & United!!

We don't need the stats . Everybody who has said that starting with Andrews is like playing with ten men is absolutely right. Not surprising if the results follow.

Not so worried about the bottle incident , just wish he'd show some on the field. Given the abuse he gets (and I've no idea what the supporter yelled at him) he was bound to snap sometime. Only human after all.

[den]

Given the abuse he gets (and I've no idea what the supporter yelled at him) he was bound to snap sometime. Only human after all.

Yes and TBH I feel sorry for anyone who has to take a bit of stick from any fans. It's not nice.

It is the way of the footballing world though. It always has been and it always will be. The people asking for a stop to it are living in cloud cuckoo land. The fans will have their say no matter what anyone else thinks. The suggestion is that it's only the miserable gits on here, but it isn't. You can read it in the telewag, on the M/B of the official site and hear it in the stands.

That's how it is.

[T4E]

andrews future at rovers in doubt:

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Blackburn-star-s-future-in-doubt-after-amazing-fan-row-Exclusive-article398043.html

Anyone know the fan in question? I hope he slags MGP off next....

[broadsword]

Except it wouldn't get a reaction out of him.

Or maybe he'd bash the offender with his handbag?

[roversnick]

he should have just pointed the abusive fan out instead of spraying water

[Ewood and I Would]

Now I know why we had to let Derbs go, he was obviously taking too much advice for Andrews and Allardyce was fearful it would ruin his career.

Just see how much Andrews was rubbing off on poor Matty

"That's it my son, point like you've never pointed before!, Now you've got it!!!"

[Majiball]

Too right, Oscar. It's not pleasant that our fans are abusing him, BUT to retaliate with violence is unacceptable. If this was Diouf, people would want him hung from the rafters.

Good point.

Keith should just be grateful we're not like the Inter supporters, if a gesture gets you attacked in the car park then he'd have been lynched for throwing that bottle.

Why though in the press does it say that he squirted water on her, when all the witnesses say he threw the bottle???

[Montfort]

Not sure of the facts here.Did he throw the bottle or did he squirt someone with water? It makes a big difference. Throwing a bottle has overtones of thuggery. Squirting someone with water is more of school boy prank.

Whatever the facts are my initial reaction is to feel sorry for him. To play in the premiership must be the dream of any player. But for him, it has all gone sour and this is due to his own fans, a large section of which will not give him any credit for any contribution.

I sumise that the "fan" was mouthing off, safe in the assumtion that nothing could happen to him

[bluebruce]

Probably the most true post on this thread......where are all the Diouf haters who come out with all the morally correct stuff when Diouf gets a parking ticket or something trivial!?

It is hardly fair to compare Andrews with the serial offender and general-poor-excuse-for-a-human-being that is El Hadji Diouf. At 29, this is the first controversy in Andrews' career that wasn't caused by him being a bit cack. Diouf has engaged in innumerable offences over many years. The very fact we were signing him was a point of near-incandescent rage for me personally, and many other supporters. He is pretty much operating on a constant stay of execution on account of being an appalling creature, so obviously anything he does that perpetuates our knowledge of him as a general git is going to spark outrage.

[Manchester Blue]

Not sure of the facts here.Did he throw the bottle or did he squirt someone with water? It makes a big difference. Throwing a bottle has overtones of thuggery. Squirting someone with water is more of school boy prank.

Whatever the facts are my initial reaction is to feel sorry for him. To play in the premiership must be the dream of any player. But for him, it has all gone sour and this is due to his own fans, a large section of which will not give him any credit for any contribution.

I sumise that the "fan" was mouthing off, safe in the assumtion that nothing could happen to him

Apologies for those i'm repeating to but it does seem to be misunderstood and it has susprised me how much sympathy Keith has recieved given what he did. I wasn't there but my Dad who sits next to me was and i have no reason to suspect it's untrue. Andrews got subbed and the guy who sits in front said something along the lines of about time he's rubbish. This was to Big Sam which the lad who sits on the row behind and has given a fair bit of stick before said yes he's a load of sh**. Nothing too bad and by all accounts not directed at him personally but he clearly could hear.

Anyway he lost it tried to have pop at the lad and squirt him and ended up throwing his bottle which hit the woman next to him instead. She was pretty upset by all accounts and was talking about taking it further but until the Arsenal game i won't know if she has done or not. Whatever your view on Andrews it's unacceptable in my view and as has been pointed out if Diouf had done it there would have been a campaign to get rid.

Neil for a small fee i'll see what i can get started re MGP at the Arsenal game ;-0

[Majiball]

Thanks Manchester Blue.

Sorry but under no circumstances should he get away with it. Grief is part of the game unfortunately and as some have said on here for, 10K+ a week you could call me all the names under the sun. I hope she complains to the police not the club as they would seem to have brushed it under the carpet. If it had been Diouf or someone else I doubt there would be much sympathy, in my book you most certainly can't have one rule for one and another for someone else.

Bye Bye Keith don't let the door smack you on the way out.

PS I'll double whatever Neil offers for you to start a we love you Gamst campaign.

[StroppyMoppy]

No charges to be brought against him:

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/8117968.Blackburn_Rovers_player_will_not_face_charges_over__bottle_throwing_/

[Al]

Pity. I was hoping he would get a Cantona type ban.

[Manchester Blue]

How can they say there was no intent? From what i've heard there was clear intent his only problem as usual was his aim. If I get annoyed next week and throw a bottle at Sam and hit Bobby Mimms on the back of the head will there be no issue? My Dad did say the woman who sits behind was determined to press charges as it did hurt apparently but I know my Dad felt it should be left. Once the police are involved though they surely have to warn him about his behaviour at least.

[OscarRaven]

How can they say there was no intent?

Yet another perplexing comment from the police. Although Keith didn't intend to hit this woman with a water bottle, the fact that he did is irrelevant?

I'd be interested to know what he intended to do with the bottle and had he not been so comically restrained?