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[Archived] Keith Andrews - Time He Went


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I'm suprised by all this as whatever his ability he seemed like a nice guy. Am very suprised it seems as though he hasn't issued an apology - at least not in the public domain.

The reaction he got today shows that he's never going to win over the fans - loudly booed when he came on. Despite this it was one of his better games, and he contributed to strengthening the attack and contributing to the midfield. His first missed chance however shows why he really shouldn't be at this level - 6 yards out and taps it to the keeper, oh dear...

Bet he'll want to move in the summer, and suspect sam wouldn't be gutted to loose him either.

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Bet he'll want to move in the summer, and suspect sam wouldn't be gutted to loose him either.

I disagree with that. He's got another 3 years on his current deal. Why would he leave when he's unlikely to get a similar deal elsewhere?

I also honestly think that Sam rates him. Along with his comments about our forward line, I'd say Sam is happy with the attritional rate that we create chances either through midfield or bypassing them altogether. The praise heaped on N'Zonzi after some recent good performances also makes be think he's happy with how things are going in that department.

The lad just isn't good enough, and repeating this every week isn't getting us anywhere. He hasn't been able to (and is unlikely to ever) shake of his Ince association and win the Rovers fans over; the fans get on his back; his confidence drops even further; and now frustration has started to get the better of him.

The irony is that I think Keith's stuck in a bit of a paradox. He get's picked for Ireland because he's playing in the Premier League and the fact that he's an international (and by implication rated by Trappatoni) is then used as a justification for him playing for Rovers.

If a mate or work colleague slags off a Rovers player, even if I think he's poor, I'll defend him because he's still a Rover.

I don't feel this with Andrews.

(Btw, this isn't a reaction to today, it's just that this thread always get's a bump when we lose).

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To be honest I think it's pathetic that the woman complained to the police about it. Surely it couldn't have hurt that much, I imagine part of the reasoning would be to try and get him out of the club.

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To be honest I think it's pathetic that the woman complained to the police about it. Surely it couldn't have hurt that much, I imagine part of the reasoning would be to try and get him out of the club.

can i just point out, that he threw a bottle at one of his own fans, aswell as it being a woman, the bottle wasent thrown by mistake he meant to do it! so she is well within her rights to complain!!! as would i.

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Taking all that into account I still think it's way over the top he didn't aim for the woman and it's a water bottle FFS.

Yet people like to complain about the police wasting time

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Taking all that into account I still think it's way over the top he didn't aim for the woman and it's a water bottle FFS.

Yet people like to complain about the police wasting time

Would that be your opinion if a certain El Hadji Diouf had been the one chucking the bottle in a fit of pique?

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Taking all that into account I still think it's way over the top he didn't aim for the woman and it's a water bottle FFS.

Yet people like to complain about the police wasting time

Cool where do you sit?

I'll bring along a water bottle and throw it at you since its no big deal. :o;)

Andrews reacted with violence to verbal abuse, its unacceptable and its even worse that he hasn't even made a public apology. Players get stick its part of the modern game, I'm surprised he was in the team today but can only assume that now Sam will play the "water boy" every game until he snaps under the pressure and slaps in a transfer request.

Diouf would have been lynched for doing it and yet "water boy" walks off into the sunset with peoples sympathies, double standards. If had been a fan throwing something and he was caught as the "water boy" was, said fan would be banned from every football ground in the country, double standards.

I'm more disappointed that nothings been said by the club when they must be well aware that "water boy" has done wrong.

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I don't know why people are comparing him to Diouf, if Diouf had wanted to get a fan wet he'd have spat on them, Oh I forgot he's already done that.

The abuse Andrews has got this year, however justified people may feel it is, has got a little over the top. He may be a footballer who is expected to meet high standards of professionalism but he's also just a human being and people can only take so much. He shouldn't be throwing things at the crowd but without knowing what was said to him and the actions that led up to the event it's hard to say if it was justified. Emotional and verbal abuse can do far more damaging long term effects than throwing a water bottle.

I'm far more concerned about his performances on the pitch rather than off it.

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I'm not surprised the incident was looked into as you say it would be if it was a fan I just feel it's petty to go to the police about it.

For people saying how would you react if it was Diouf well I say how about if it was Dunny, people would have been more aplogetic towards him no doubt.

Keith should apologise to her and that should have been it

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I'm not surprised the incident was looked into as you say it would be if it was a fan I just feel it's petty to go to the police about it.

For people saying how would you react if it was Diouf well I say how about if it was Dunny, people would have been more aplogetic towards him no doubt.

Keith should apologise to her and that should have been it

Yep forgot to add that, he should apologise but that should be the end of it.

I was just googling around trying to find any more news on it or hopefully a video, no success unfortunately but found one little interesting thing which was quite ironic.

Anyone know of Mark Henry the WWE wrestler and former World's Strongest Man? On the same day in Belfast he's been accused of throwing water at a fan and squaring up to them lol, I know which fan I'd rather be!

Mark Henry in Legal Trouble in Northern Ireland

What did he do?

Reports are surfacing of an incident involving Mark Henry at a bar in Belfast at the end of WWE's tour in Europe. An article in the newspaper Derry Journal states that Henry was arrested after an incident involving an autograph-seeking fan.

James McClay went to the show with his fiancée and stayed at the Hilton, which is where the Raw crew was billeted. He was collecting autographs to make a birthday card for his son and for his own collection, and said all the wrestlers were co-operative except Henry. He says the World's Strongest Man signed the autograph, but he was abusive and ignorant in doing so. He goes on to allege that Henry threw a drink at him.

Henry got up and was ready to fight, but was talked down by John Cena and Randy Orton. Chavo Guerrero then started encouraging Henry to carry on, McClay says. "He (Henry) kept saying, `Where I'm from, you do something when someone throws a drink around you. . . He kept calling me a `little punk bitch,'" McClay claims. McClay was then removed from the bar by WWE security.

McClay is planning to head to Atlanta for next year's WrestleMania

and to get married while there.

If Mark Henry was ready to fight as the 'fan' suggests then the 'fan' would probably be in intensive care right now.

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Funny enough Dirk I was talkign about the Henry incident on another forum, I think theres more to that story that meets the eye, Henry is meant to be one of the nicest guys backstage I doubt he would throw something at a fan for no reason.

I think a water bottle match should be arranged between Henry and Andrews

For those who have no idea who he is

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Funny enough Dirk I was talkign about the Henry incident on another forum, I think theres more to that story that meets the eye, Henry is meant to be one of the nicest guys backstage I doubt he would throw something at a fan for no reason.

I think a water bottle match should be arranged between Henry and Andrews

For those who have no idea who he is

Let's get it on!

henryvandrews.jpg

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I don't know why people are comparing him to Diouf, if Diouf had wanted to get a fan wet he'd have spat on them, Oh I forgot he's already done that.

The abuse Andrews has got this year, however justified people may feel it is, has got a little over the top. He may be a footballer who is expected to meet high standards of professionalism but he's also just a human being and people can only take so much. He shouldn't be throwing things at the crowd but without knowing what was said to him and the actions that led up to the event it's hard to say if it was justified. Emotional and verbal abuse can do far more damaging long term effects than throwing a water bottle.

I'm far more concerned about his performances on the pitch rather than off it.

People are using Diouf because it would have been far more of an issue had it been him given his past. One rule for one and one for another.

Andrews yes has taken some abuse and I don't personally like the booing and haven't par-taken, but you won't stop it. Its just the society that has been created these days, and it will only get worse. Yesterday as soon as he came on, the camera's switched to the fans and I assume abuse was aimed in his direction. Its going to get worse, if he plays in the last home game I'm sure its going to be more intense than ever now as well.

The situation is just being made worse however, why did he play yesterday? Surely he should have been given some space to get his head straight and remove him from a scenario he obviously cannot cope with? Why 7 days later has the lady in question not had an apology from Keith and the club, publicly so that everyone knows whats happened. Swift and decisive action was needed by rovers so it doesn't become more than it was, as it is becoming. The LT report about the police saying there was no intent, states the club are investigating? how long does it take to speak to people and ascertain what has happened, a few hours at most. It should have been wrapped up by the middle of last week with statements issued and an apology made to the lady in question by Keith. Its not being handled well at all.

Keith no matter what he does, will get abuse from his own fans. Its plain-fully obvious he's not mentally tough enough to deal with it and if a few words are enough to illicit the response he gave, then it won't be long before it happens again. Next time who's to say what will happen, will he jump the gate ala Cantona? Because I can imagine given that his attack was on people behind the home dug out abuse will come from there now and how does he avoid that?

Its best all round now if he's moved on, this summer. If Keith wants to stay and Sam wants to keep him then they need to do something to ensure this doesn't occur again. If Keith values his pay-check over his mental well being then he needs to be ready to cope with the abuse he will always receive from Rovers fans. Because if thats the case and he can't deal with it, I have no sympathy for him as he knows what he's letting himself in for and its his choice and the clubs choice.

At the end of the day the lady who was hit felt strongly enough to go to the police and complain as she has the right too, regardless of how you feel about having a water bottle thrown at you, it wasn't thrown at you. Rovers need to deal with it now sort it out with her and placated the situation, asap.

Why can't Andrews make a public statement saying sorry, but I always try my best, yes sometimes its not good enough but I give 100% and I don't know what more I can do. Make the statement an apology and also generate some sympathy for the lad, by saying its hard for me knowing some of my own fans just boo before I've even played, blah blah. If anything its an opportunity for Rovers and Keith, but as always rovers are useless at media dealing and relating to their fans in this manner.

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You really think a premiership player who other teams have been interested in should make a public announcement saying he isn't good enough.

So he should potentially harm his career to appease some idiots who like to boo their own players?

If I was him I'd be more tempted to make a statement surrounded by cash saying screw you I'm living your dream and couldn't give one if you want to boo me.

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You really think a premiership player who other teams have been interested in should make a public announcement saying he isn't good enough.

So he should potentially harm his career to appease some idiots who like to boo their own players?

If I was him I'd be more tempted to make a statement surrounded by cash saying screw you I'm living your dream and couldn't give one if you want to boo me.

No I think the club should use this to help him and try a build a better relationship with the fans so some of the immense pressure he is under is taken away. Doing and saying nothing will not see the problem/issue magically disappear.

At the end of the day if someone wants to sign him they will, by scouting him and the such before making a choice. I'd say his actions of retaliation have already seriously harmed his career anyway, would you seriously be tempted to bring a player to your club who throws missiles at his own fans when he gets frustrated??? He's hardly Cantona.

But hey lets just let every player that wants to throw things at their own fans, because you deem it acceptable behavior.

You seem not to realise that everyone is different with different views than yourself and that they have just as much right to voice their opinions as you do. If fans want to Boo a player they will whether you think they are idiots or not is irrelevant, they pay their way as much as you do and so are entitled to do what they want at games within the law, which they do. This is a country of free speech and that is exactly what they are doing.

I'm having a good chuckle at your suggestion for a interview and would hazard a guess that if he was to do that he would be lynched, as most already feel they are very over paid. If you want to retort at least add in some common sense as opposed to an ill-thought reply like the one you have made. You might want to reconsider your last scentence of that paragraph because obviously Andrews does care what they think otherwise he would never have thrown the bottle in the first place.

And anyway Andrews is not living my dream, I am and my dream is going exactly as planned thank you very much.

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I'm one of his biiggest critics but I felt desperately sorry for him when his shot hit the post. It wouldn't have made him a better player of course but it would have done his confidence a world of good.

That's the trouble, hitting the post instead of scoring sums him up..

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That's the trouble, hitting the post instead of scoring sums him up..

That was unlucky. However the one before that where he tapped it meekly to their keeper 6 yards out on a narrow angle when Dunn was unmarked in the middle said much more about Andrews' ability and lack of brain.

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No I think the club should use this to help him and try a build a better relationship with the fans so some of the immense pressure he is under is taken away. Doing and saying nothing will not see the problem/issue magically disappear.

At the end of the day if someone wants to sign him they will, by scouting him and the such before making a choice. I'd say his actions of retaliation have already seriously harmed his career anyway, would you seriously be tempted to bring a player to your club who throws missiles at his own fans when he gets frustrated??? He's hardly Cantona.

But hey lets just let every player that wants to throw things at their own fans, because you deem it acceptable behavior.

You seem not to realise that everyone is different with different views than yourself and that they have just as much right to voice their opinions as you do. If fans want to Boo a player they will whether you think they are idiots or not is irrelevant, they pay their way as much as you do and so are entitled to do what they want at games within the law, which they do. This is a country of free speech and that is exactly what they are doing.

I'm having a good chuckle at your suggestion for a interview and would hazard a guess that if he was to do that he would be lynched, as most already feel they are very over paid. If you want to retort at least add in some common sense as opposed to an ill-thought reply like the one you have made. You might want to reconsider your last scentence of that paragraph because obviously Andrews does care what they think otherwise he would never have thrown the bottle in the first place.

And anyway Andrews is not living my dream, I am and my dream is going exactly as planned thank you very much.

Come on surely you can see my response about the interview was tongue in cheek. It would be funny though.

Like you say everyone has their own opinion to express as I have done myself earlier this season in booing decisions made by he manager. Fair play to sal

for effectively sticking 2 fingers up to the naysayers in his post match interview.

For what it's worth I think Andrews is crap and hope he leaves for the benefit of all parties but I won't boo him for being a bit sh1t (yes I'm a hypocrite)

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Its hard to realise what is tongue in cheek, I'd love a sarcasm emoticon or even a guide to what they are meant to mean as I can't say I'm up to speed on it all and struggle with text talk as it stands.

I just don't think ignoring a problem or issue helps at all, and thats what I feel is happening over this situation. Its like brushing it under the carpet and praying it will go away, when it just won't.

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Just a question but did anyone actually see him throw a water bottle?

The initial reports suggested he squirted water from a bottle and then a day later a female came forward and claimed he threw a water bottle at her.

Do we actually know if he did actually throw anything or are we just assuming so because one person claimed he did?

Honest question, didn't see it myself.

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Its hard to realise what is tongue in cheek, I'd love a sarcasm emoticon or even a guide to what they are meant to mean as I can't say I'm up to speed on it all and struggle with text talk as it stands.

I just don't think ignoring a problem or issue helps at all, and thats what I feel is happening over this situation. Its like brushing it under the carpet and praying it will go away, when it just won't.

Majiball you sad @#/?, get a life and stop serial posting on your mini conquest. You are trying to bluff by making your posts quite beefy word wise, but your posts are bloody awful. You are generally one of the better posters, but every page has about ten responses from you, and it's getting annoying.

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