[Archived] Liverpool In Difficulties

[DE.]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport...afa-misery.html

If Mascherano leaves as well as Alonso Liverpool will struggle to find replacements on the same level. Most of the money they gain from those transfers will be swallowed up by their debts.

[philipl]

An indication that Gillett flogging 80% of the Canadiens for £333 has solved Liverpool's immediate headache came this afternoon when Kenny Dalglish was appointed head of the Liverpool Academy and club ambassador and Rafa advisor.

The scousers still have headaches over Mascherano and Alonso and a stadium to build but I guess Kenny would not have gone there if thje banks were going to bust them three weeks from now.

[thenodrog]

Well I guess it's no good going afterwards.

[CrazyIvan]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8170699.stm

Debt re-negotiated so they have at least one more year...

[philipl]

Gillett and Hicks are offering 25% of LFC for £100m to raise cash "for the new stadium". Not an earthly chance of getting that one away I'd have thought.

[thenodrog]

Gillett and Hicks are offering 25% of LFC for £100m to raise cash "for the new stadium". Not an earthly chance of getting that one away I'd have thought.

100m? If they cannot get grub up any more then it'll have all 4 sides like the Riverside!

[Hughesy]

They got abit of a scare last night - terrible work by Mcmanaman in the Studio - saying that the Hungarian side would never of scored and it should of been 4 or 5-0. Red tinted glasses or what!

[unluckymorton]

100m? If they cannot get grub up any more then it'll have all 4 sides like the Riverside!

Hey don't knock the Riverside I help fund that in the old club shop when you could sponsor a brick on the wall!!!

[philipl]

Well here is an interesting one.

When Liverpool got their loan extension from the banks this summer, they covenanted that from now to 2014, "only" £20m a year net increase would be allowed in player expenditure. That covers wages and transfer fees.

Benitez on meagre rations compared with the recent past and points to Alonso having to be sold.

[thenodrog]

Well here is an interesting one.

When Liverpool got their loan extension from the banks this summer, they covenanted that from now to 2014, "only" £20m a year net increase would be allowed in player expenditure. That covers wages and transfer fees.

Benitez on meagre rations compared with the recent past and points to Alonso having to be sold.

I know what you are saying but I think Sam would take that condition in an instant.

If this is the case then whoever Man City / Spurs will replace in Prem heirarchy has just been pre-determined by the banks with the full cooperation of some yankee businessmen who 5 years ago would not be able to find Lpool on a map of the UK. A lesson to all unconditionally wishing new 'investors' into the Ewood boardroom.

[tcj_jones]

You got to remember as well that Rafa has a pretty awful record with chucking huge money around on mediocre players and doesn't appear capable of identifying even remoitely good youngsters, nor bringing in players for bargain prices. This makes them even more likely to struggle in the future.

[thenodrog]

<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8170699.stm" target="_blank">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8170699.stm</a>

Debt re-negotiated so they have at least one more year...

Oh Joy!

Can Liverpool FC be officially classed as a "Toxic debt" yet?

[LeftWinger]

http://www.lfc-endofseasonparty.com/

[Paul]

I'm sure it's an old one but made me laugh:

Arsenal have Arsenal TV

United have MUTV

Chelsea have Chelsea TV

.........................and Liverpool have the History channel

[unluckymorton]

I'm sure it's an old one but made me laugh:

Arsenal have Arsenal TV

United have MUTV

Chelsea have Chelsea TV

.........................and Liverpool have the History channel

Now they've got Channel 5 too!

[T4E]

Jason McAteer talking about Benitez on SSN -

"I do believe that you have to give a manager time to fail."

The pure idiocy of that aside, it's ex players coming on TV saying things like this that nearly got us relegated last season. Time to fail? I'll stick to prevention rather than cure, thanks.

[philipl]

Times to failure differ.

It has taken Benitez five years to go from European Cup holders, burn through £150m and end up out of the CL and out of the top 4.

Ince and Trigger took about five days to fail.

[Mattyblue]

Jason McAteer talking about Benitez on SSN -

"I do believe that you have to give a manager time to fail."

The pure idiocy of that aside, it's ex players coming on TV saying things like this that nearly got us relegated last season. Time to fail? I'll stick to prevention rather than cure, thanks.

Poor Trig, bet his head was hurting after that gem.

[broadsword]

Time to fail? What?

If you see the bridge is out ahead, you don't keep driving.

Benitez is past his sell-by date at Liverpool, but they can't afford to sack him. Or maybe now they can, maybe that will be cheaper than keeping him for another year.

all managers have a shelf-life in any one job.

[Anti-Dingle-Brigade]

Watching the fall of the Scousers is great, keep him there as long as possible.

[T4E]

Not worthy of a new thread but this is just about on topic with Rafa at the end -

Very very good. The Thierry Henry mannerisms are excellent, I hadn't even noticed it before seeing this.

[G Somerset Rover]

That's an excellent video Tugs. That guy's brilliant!

[neekoy]

Thanks Tugs, that was awesome

[leftfooter]

Never underestimate the stupidity of the general public. Particularly the shallow sentimental stupidity of the Liverpooh general public.

When they're not busily organising candlelit vigils, minute silences, leaving teddy bears at blood stained street corners, festooning yellow ribbons on garage railings, they're either emotionally blackmailing or plaintiffly bullying the rest of us in to sympathising with their peculiarly loutish and dishonest form of victimhood.

For sheer thick or maliciously disingenuous cynicism however, professional Scouser and self professed football 'expert' Rogan Taylor is surely peerless. Rogan Taylor who built his name on the back of the Hillsborough disaster, (as Liverpool FC are currently doing too, to be fair), proves the rule that being a bit thick is clearly no disqualification from holding a doctorate. Taylor's vacuous brand of reflexive sentimental folksiness, combined with his high-pitched, moustachioed, self-pitying Scouse whine would have any sentient bunch of supporters scrambling for the exit.

Instead, this is the man, who until last week's implosion of Dubai's make-believe economy, was, according to his other cod-academic colleagues and the Liverpool Echo, planning to take a 10% controlling share through his absurdly titled "Share-Liverpool-FC-Group", whilst Dubai International Capital (DIC) would buy 90% of the equity. This is the same DIC that is owned by the odious al-Maktoum family, who preside over the modern day slave state of Dubai. A bankrupt medieval desert boghole, comprising a fifth of the United Arab Emirates, which owes way more than it can ever hope to repay, with debts conservatively estimated at $80 billion.

This is what Taylor and the odious Munich mocking 'Spirit of Shankly' group had in mind when demonstrating and unleashing their mindless vitriol toward the current owners of Liverpool FC. The same owners who Taylor frequently refers to as 'these American no-marks' - like he would dare if they were any other nationality. The same American no-marks who lavished a kings ransom on the saintly Rafael Benitez, which on the whole, has been, if not squandered, then certainly not wisely spent.

Liverpool fans should heave a sigh of relief that they are owned by the much hated Tom Hicks and George Gillett American no-mark combination, rather than the corrupt Dubai despots, who were the majority of Liverpool fans' clear choice as their new Anfield masters.

And therein lies a new dilemma. Emirati banks are shouldering a large chunk of Dubai's debts, and international ratings agencies have either downgraded the ratings of some of the country's banks or at least placed them on review for further downgrades, citing exposure to Dubai World's debt. The UAEs' central bank is exposed to Dubai's crushing debt. Things might be about to become a little uncomfortable over at Eastlands.

[yoda]

Never underestimate the stupidity of the general public. Particularly the shallow sentimental stupidity of the Liverpooh general public.

When they're not busily organising candlelit vigils, minute silences, leaving teddy bears at blood stained street corners, festooning yellow ribbons on garage railings, they're either emotionally blackmailing or plaintiffly bullying the rest of us in to sympathising with their peculiarly loutish and dishonest form of victimhood.

For sheer thick or maliciously disingenuous cynicism however, professional Scouser and self professed football 'expert' Rogan Taylor is surely peerless. Rogan Taylor who built his name on the back of the Hillsborough disaster, (as Liverpool FC are currently doing too, to be fair), proves the rule that being a bit thick is clearly no disqualification from holding a doctorate. Taylor's vacuous brand of reflexive sentimental folksiness, combined with his high-pitched, moustachioed, self-pitying Scouse whine would have any sentient bunch of supporters scrambling for the exit.

Instead, this is the man, who until last week's implosion of Dubai's make-believe economy, was, according to his other cod-academic colleagues and the Liverpool Echo, planning to take a 10% controlling share through his absurdly titled "Share-Liverpool-FC-Group", whilst Dubai International Capital (DIC) would buy 90% of the equity. This is the same DIC that is owned by the odious al-Maktoum family, who preside over the modern day slave state of Dubai. A bankrupt medieval desert boghole, comprising a fifth of the United Arab Emirates, which owes way more than it can ever hope to repay, with debts conservatively estimated at $80 billion.

This is what Taylor and the odious Munich mocking 'Spirit of Shankly' group had in mind when demonstrating and unleashing their mindless vitriol toward the current owners of Liverpool FC. The same owners who Taylor frequently refers to as 'these American no-marks' - like he would dare if they were any other nationality. The same American no-marks who lavished a kings ransom on the saintly Rafael Benitez, which on the whole, has been, if not squandered, then certainly not wisely spent.

Liverpool fans should heave a sigh of relief that they are owned by the much hated Tom Hicks and George Gillett American no-mark combination, rather than the corrupt Dubai despots, who were the majority of Liverpool fans' clear choice as their new Anfield masters.

And therein lies a new dilemma. Emirati banks are shouldering a large chunk of Dubai's debts, and international ratings agencies have either downgraded the ratings of some of the country's banks or at least placed them on review for further downgrades, citing exposure to Dubai World's debt. The UAEs' central bank is exposed to Dubai's crushing debt. Things might be about to become a little uncomfortable over at Eastlands.

Oh come on!

stop pussy footing around (ooops sorry if that is a pun) and say what yor mean

couldn't happen to a more deserving club, except maybe barcodes, or chelski, or maybe citeh, or maybe ......