[Archived] Potential Summer Transfers (2010)

[Roberto Policano]

Has Adriano's contract expired at Flamengo?

He fits my definition of a top striker (albeit with some baggage) as opposed to Italy perhaps he fancy a shot at the premiership. Could certainly play the lone role and would hopefully score some goals.

Zigic, does anyone know what sort of dollar he'd cost? scores goals. (We could even get a spice girls song going, zig A zig A)

Could "porn star" Vagner love be brought here on loan next year?

Sidney Govuo, surely would be a great signing on a free for that right wing/attacker slot.

Christ even Luca Toni must be worth a look, before we scrape the barrel with the likes of the Pompey duo.

Adriano's contract must have expired with them for Roma to be interested.Roma will use all their money to sign Nicolas Burdisso permanently from Inter for 5 million Euros.They will have to sell either Philippe Mexes or Mirko Vucinic(Man City)to make any more non Bosman signings.

Roma will look to sign Luca Toni permanently,Daniele Prade confirmed that yesterday.

Vagner love would set you back a £2 million loan fee and £70,000 a-week.

Sidney Govou is being offered all over the place at the moment,Italy,England,Spain,Germany,Russia

Doubt he comes cheap.

[Majiball]

I'm sorry I nearly wet myself, Poor Salgado and Olsson won't know what's hit um. The goals would defiantly increase, unfortunately probably in the against column. or maybe it's just the way it looks on paper, rather unorthodox to say the least.

Do you think there is anything in the 3 at the back we tried, dated I know but strange Sam should give it a whirl, maybe that would accommodate Dunn and Guti better.

Grella and N'zonzi have to help protect the flanks its a classic brazilian system. Box defence IE the two sitter and center backs mean the full backs can actually fly forward, when its done right.

With wing backs maybe in reference to the 3 at the back system. But i have great reservations over playing that way as Arry found out a while back at Pompey, without success. the central three would protect the back better than the two but the flanks would still be weak when the wing backs have pushed up to support the attack. It maybe off-set by the three center backs and N'zonzi moving across, but it would take some time to get used to it all as its a system I doubt most of our players have ever played, adaptation will take months. If both full backs have pushed on, your back line is very narrow and with the pace most teams have out wide the switch ball could rip us open, especially on the counter.

The key for me would be that in guti we would have central player that will be available (he moves well off the ball) for the pass unlike what we have at present. So I'd slot him straight into midfield with Dunn advanced. Becuase with him in the team we'd keep the ball more often and retain it better, hopefully meaning we spend les time defending. Perhaps puch the full backs on less as well, in case it breaks down. We'd have to push the wingers right up so they'd both need to be quick, which we don't currently have in a starter, yet (hoillets not quite ready).

[braddock]

Salgado---Samba----Givet----Olsson

----------Grella---N'zonzi--------

----------Guti-----Dunn-----------

---------Kalinic----Raul-----------

No width but we play mainly down the middle anyway.

aint no rovers team without nelsen

or robinson for that matter

that's a 16th position or worse team since it's basically a 6-4 formation with nothing on the wings

i can't believe how bad it is

plus we won't be signing raul

[bellamy11]

aint no rovers team without nelsen

or robinson for that matter

that's a 16th position or worse team since it's basically a 6-4 formation with nothing on the wings

i can't believe how bad it is

plus we won't be signing raul

It's not a bad formation per se, it just relies on having world-class Brazilian fullbacks. Which we don't. Jonathan Wilson has written an article for the Guardian on the importance of fullbacks in modern football: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2009/mar/25/the-question-full-backs-football

You're right about Raul, though!

[Kelbo]

Actually, modern coaching emphesises the roles of the full backs more and more, I am finding the better clubs we play against who have min UEFA B coaches, get their teams to play through their full backs, backward diagonal balls from a forward position to switch play and they work in tandem with the wide midfielder!

[den]

Actually, modern coaching emphesises the roles of the full backs more and more, I am finding the better clubs we play against who have min UEFA B coaches, get their teams to play through their full backs,

Thus it always was Kelbo.

Tony Parkes said the full backs make your team play. Don't know if I agree entirely with that, but he said that years ago.

[RoyRover]

I wonder if we are one of the clubs that are mentioned here? I've never known quite what to make of the guy. He has a big reputation, is an international footballer, but doesn't seem to score that many goals. We are actively looking for a striker so it may be him. I would be worried about how affective he would be in the Premiership.

[67splitscreen]

Actually, modern coaching emphesises the roles of the full backs more and more, I am finding the better clubs we play against who have min UEFA B coaches, get their teams to play through their full backs, backward diagonal balls from a forward position to switch play and they work in tandem with the wide midfielder!

The best at the moment are all LB's, or that's how it seems, exception being Johnson.

It's certainly an area we could improve on, Givet not the best going forward and Olsson not the best defensively, shame we can't morph then into one player.

[braddock]

The best at the moment are all LB's, or that's how it seems, exception being Johnson.

It's certainly an area we could improve on, Givet not the best going forward and Olsson not the best defensively, shame we can't morph then into one player.

we'd only have to sell this Olvet, if he were ever to spawn

worth over £10mil though

[The Rover of Finland]

Nicko, you mentioned on other topic that Sam was in London last Friday. You said he was there on transfer negotiation. I must ask why in London? A player from London club or just a meeting place?

[Kelbo]

Thus it always was Kelbo.

Tony Parkes said the full backs make your team play. Don't know if I agree entirely with that, but he said that years ago.

That was Jim Smiths theory, Faz and Keeley used to have babies when Hird and Baily were bombing up the wings and of course, Parkes played in that team, usually at lower level football, the role of the full backs was never as prominant as they are today, yes, the ball was played to them from the keeper, sometimes accross the back four but now the ball is played significantly more by the midfielders, diagonally backwards to the full backs as a standard play switching tactic, that is why we use Diouf in a role whhere he pushes onto the full backs more!

[Hughesy]

No, it's not. Players need to be athletically competitive, as well as technically. Naturally, some players lean more one way than the other, but basic fitness is a requirement.

Look at Villanueva. Talented little player, but Sam hardly played him 'cos of his lack of pace and power.

No Sam didnt play Villanueva because we were in a relegation battle & therefore a battle & long ball was needed, not pretty football. He basically said the same thing at the time!

[Mr. E]

From the last few pages it seems like the Guti deal is signed, sealed and delivered.

[Exiled_Rover]

we'd only have to sell this Olvet, if he were ever to spawn

worth over £10mil though

Olssen's speed and attacking ability morphed with Givet's defensive aptitude and toughness? He'd be worth billions.

[nicko]

Nicko, you mentioned on other topic that Sam was in London last Friday. You said he was there on transfer negotiation. I must ask why in London? A player from London club or just a meeting place?

[bluebruce]

We are linked with Borja Valero

It says Skysports, but the Skysports website doesn't seem to mention it? Anybody seen it on skysports news? They sometimes say things there and then they take ages to hit the website.

[brian_gallagher85]

Flight time from Madrid - around 3 hours

Driving time from the Northwest - around 3/4 hours

Am I close?

[LeChuck]

We are linked with Borja Valero

It says Skysports, but the Skysports website doesn't seem to mention it? Anybody seen it on skysports news? They sometimes say things there and then they take ages to hit the website.

I thought Valero looked a cracking little player when he was at West Brom, I think I posted about him after they went down.

He's got the sort of quality on the ball that we need, I'd be happy if that is true.

[Amo]

No Sam didnt play Villanueva because we were in a relegation battle & therefore a battle & long ball was needed, not pretty football. He basically said the same thing at the time!

You just proved my point. He obviously didn't feel Villanueva had the physical attributes for this league, otherwise there's no reason he wouldn't play.

[braddock]

You just proved my point. He obviously didn't feel Villanueva had the physical attributes for this league, otherwise there's no reason he wouldn't play.

no, he said he didn't have the physical attributes for a dogfight

there are many players who have great ability but aren't suited to those conditions

most luxury players in fact

[Majiball]

Adriano's contract must have expired with them for Roma to be interested.Roma will use all their money to sign Nicolas Burdisso permanently from Inter for 5 million Euros.They will have to sell either Philippe Mexes or Mirko Vucinic(Man City)to make any more non Bosman signings.

Roma will look to sign Luca Toni permanently,Daniele Prade confirmed that yesterday.

Vagner love would set you back a £2 million loan fee and £70,000 a-week.

Sidney Govou is being offered all over the place at the moment,Italy,England,Spain,Germany,Russia

Doubt he comes cheap.

Thanks Roberto.

aint no rovers team without nelsen

or robinson for that matter

that's a 16th position or worse team since it's basically a 6-4 formation with nothing on the wings

i can't believe how bad it is

plus we won't be signing raul

Your right ain't no rovers team without nelsen, poor soul playing at 150 years old. Times change.

I'll remember to add in the keeper for you next time, since its not obvious we must have one.

Brazil have played like this for ages and they are hardly a poor team. The attacking midfielders have licence to drift out wide and support out there as well as enabling the full-backs to bomd right on as there are two sitters.

Thats funny about Raul, when i mentioned both him and guti people said the same, wonder where that went??? If we get guti who's to say he wouldn't but hey its not as if LJMU have any link to Madrid is it!

It's not a bad formation per se, it just relies on having world-class Brazilian fullbacks. Which we don't. Jonathan Wilson has written an article for the Guardian on the importance of fullbacks in modern football: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2009/mar/25/the-question-full-backs-football

You're right about Raul, though!

We have two players with good engines in both Salgado and Olsson so it has some merit as much as a 352 does.

When Jonathan Wilson is willing to put his money where his mouth is, i'll listen to him. Les Reed once wrote a book that was hailed and published by the FA, what happened to him. Full backs are only crucial dependent on how you want to play, Sam himself shows that you can be sucessful without the modern version from his time at bolton.

[braddock]

nelsen isn't past it at all

i'm aware things change but nelsen should be playing

thing i don't understand is why stanley don't play that formation

they'd be kings of the world

there's a reason brazil play it and we don't you fool

also, do you know how much raul AND guti would cost? we don't have it

[joey_big_nose]

nelsen isn't past it at all

i'm aware things change but nelsen should be playing

thing i don't understand is why stanley don't play that formation

they'd be kings of the world

there's a reason brazil play it and we don't you fool

also, do you know how much raul AND guti would cost? we don't have it

I would play Jones and Givet at centreback ahead of Nelsen. The admiral has had his time I think. Still a good player from the bench but the other two now offer more.

[braddock]

I would play Jones and Givet at centreback ahead of Nelsen. The admiral has had his time I think. Still a good player from the bench but the other two now offer more.

jones isn't ready just yet

givet perhaps. it is a close call. nelsen wins it

[The Rover of Finland]

Samba plays if he is fit. We need Nelsen, Jones, Givet and even Hanley all. No point to argue who starts with Samba when there is 3 months when season starts. They are all good players, lucky us.