[Archived] Potential Summer Transfers (2010)

[bluebruce]

Italian football journalist,but now working on Premier League too.

Best way to keep a brest of a clubs news is to log into their main site once a day.I hope the sites owners don't mind me joining in with the threads even though i'am not a Blackburn fan.

No ones given me a chasing so far.

So you occasionally report on us in the Italian rags? I assume you check most other Prem teams' fan boards too then? Not meaning to take us too far off topic...

[Roberto Policano]

So you occasionally report on us in the Italian rags? I assume you check most other Prem teams' fan boards too then? Not meaning to take us too far off topic...

Yes usually when you play the bigger teams.

Yes i check all north west teams daily.hopefully i get Blackpool to report on next year!.

I've never been to Blackpool before.

[USABlue]

If we are paying Peds 50K a week it is an outcry and,I think, potentially demoralising for the team. How on earth can we pay him that much, surely the other players cotton on to that fact he's not worth it. I can't help but wonder what it does to their attitude. I know in my job how I'd feel if a marginal performer was earning more than me.

[neekoy]

Italian football journalist,but now working on Premier League too.

Best way to keep a brest of a clubs news is to log into their main site once a day.I hope the sites owners don't mind me joining in with the threads even though i'am not a Blackburn fan.

No ones given me a chasing so far.

You are not the ex Roma and Torino player are you?

[Steve Moss]

Serious question?

Yes.

Pretty sure it was, but asked more in hope than expectation.

Correct.

If it is indeed £55k a week I've no sympathy for Allardyce or Williams when they cry foul about having no funds to play with.

Agreed.

I hear that this includes [a] signing-on money and may be the top line if he gets his maximum bonuses for performance.

I really hope this is true. It would draw the sting, slightly.

To buy a player of pedersen's caliber and premier league experience would cost 5 mil easily. He'd also be on decent wages. We can't have inexpericed players all over the park, that'd be suicide.

11 million (or thereabouts) over 4 years? I'm pretty sure we could've improved on MGP.

That being said, I will keep faith with JW and Sam though I am sorely tempted to cry into my beer.

[Miker]

I'm in the minority here, but Pedersen has been an important player for us. I'd probably agree that he's not one of our best, but his set pieces HAVE proven problematic often this season. He's had a few brilliant games, chipped in with a couple of goals and assists and has stayed injury-free for the entire season. I have rarely seen him make a mistake... I've seen him be ineffectual, but he's rarely error-prone. 60k/week is probably a bit over the top, but I can see the reasons why Sam and JW decided to keep him.

It'd be hard to find a set piece specialist who can do throw ins, corners and free kicks like Pedersen does, AND stays fit all season for an affordable price.

[Paul]

I'm in the minority here,

No I don't think you are. While it's true MGP may no longer be at the top of his game he couldn't be replaced easily. I'm very pleased he is staying.

I also read in the same article the club have confirmed a striker is the summer priority. Given the manager's success rate with last summer's signings I hope he's putting the effort in now! Presumable we have shipped Di Santo back to Chelsea already? One goal in 15 is very poor and it's clear while he's a good footballer the lad will never score goals, shame as it's hard to see where else he can play. As for Kalinic? Well Allardyce blew £6m on the great hope of Croatian football. I like Nicko and hope he succeeds but he's going to have to learn lone strikers must score goals, two league goals a season is not £6m worth of value.

Hopefully the manager will have more success this summer, not that it would take much as last summer's signings returned three league goals between them!!

[Muddboy]

Reading set to Miss out on Zurab

Because we are offering for a 6 figure sum.........not alot for him, what up with them!!

Let's so a swap deal with Jobi McAnuff, if they can't find the money.

They clearly don't want Zurab that much...

[Mr. E]

Martin Petrov would be amazing. Sadly I don't see it happening. (getting used to this phrase)

[PAFELL]

Wow, if he's on anything like £50k then I'm utterly astonished and completely against the club's decision to retain him.

EDIT: no wonder he's suddenly so happy in Blackburn and wants to spend another four years here - what club on the planet would pay him £50k, aside from us of course.

How much would it cost to buy a new player for Pedersons position, plus wage, plus agents, etc

[RIML]

That cannot be right. There is no way we have given MGP 60k a week. 35k tops. Can Nicko get the inside track on this? 50-60k would be absolutely scandalous.

I know, I don't believe it either, this link states,

"The Sun claims that the Greek club are using a £25,000-a-week wage offer as bait to lure the player into joining their fold."

If you translate this taken from the msn link,

'Og lønnbetingelsene er i stjerneklassen. Gamst Pedersen går fra 350 000 til 550 000 kroner i ukelønn. Noe som gir en årslønn på snaue 29 millioner kroner.'

'And salary conditions in the star class. Gamst Pedersen goes from 350 000 to 550 000 in weekly pay. Giving an annual salary of less than NOK 29 million.'

350 000 is roughly £38,000.

[PAFELL]

There is little or no evidence that players are falling over themselves to play for Rovers so we could not have had any certainty that any of the players you suggest would have been willing to come. We struggle to sell the club to players sometimes and when we have a player the manager obviously trusts in that position, why try to buy a player like Petrov who has been injured for ages. We have enough of our own crocks without trying to buy anyone else's. This is obviously a position the manager could see no reason to take a risk in. We might need to be a bit morre creative and adventurous in our choice of striker and take an older possibly injury prone one or another young inexperienced one on loan as anything else is likely to be pricy, so why take risks in this position where the manager has a player he knows and thinks he can trust too?

I agree with you gumboots. Pedersen may not be the best of players, but niether is he the worse. We know what we get from him. I also think we will see a better Pedersen playing in this new position. Which after only playing it for half a season, will still take time adjusting to it. But that is it, on his day he can be a good player for Rovers. At least he is on the field playing and not on the injury list. But I think what is also importnat he likes playing for Rovers and knows what Sam wants from him.

Any other player would cost a transfer fee, wages, agents etc, would need time to adjust, get used to Sams style of play. Time is something Rovers do not have, they have to hit each season running. Keeping Pedersen allows that.

I am happy to be in the minority. Others are entitled to their opinion as I also am. But I think keeping Pedersen is good for Rovers.

Martin Petrov would be amazing. Sadly I don't see it happening. (getting used to this phrase)

I suppose with Reid going, it would leave room for Petrov in the sick room.

[budha]

I know, I don't believe it either, this link states,

"The Sun claims that the Greek club are using a £25,000-a-week wage offer as bait to lure the player into joining their fold."

If you translate this taken from the msn link,

'Og lønnbetingelsene er i stjerneklassen. Gamst Pedersen går fra 350 000 til 550 000 kroner i ukelønn. Noe som gir en årslønn på snaue 29 millioner kroner.'

'And salary conditions in the star class. Gamst Pedersen goes from 350 000 to 550 000 in weekly pay. Giving an annual salary of less than NOK 29 million.'

350 000 is roughly £38,000.

I would guess the Greek salary would've been tax-free. Have you ever heard anyone paying taxes in Greece?

[nick1979]

I'm in the minority here, but Pedersen has been an important player for us. I'd probably agree that he's not one of our best, but his set pieces HAVE proven problematic often this season. He's had a few brilliant games, chipped in with a couple of goals and assists and has stayed injury-free for the entire season. I have rarely seen him make a mistake... I've seen him be ineffectual, but he's rarely error-prone. 60k/week is probably a bit over the top, but I can see the reasons why Sam and JW decided to keep him.

It'd be hard to find a set piece specialist who can do throw ins, corners and free kicks like Pedersen does, AND stays fit all season for an affordable price.

Agreed

[CrazyIvan]

Agreed

This...

[Majiball]

You are not the ex Roma and Torino player are you?

I've been wondering that as well, but from what I can gather he works for Udinese as a scout.

How much would it cost to buy a new player for Pedersons position, plus wage, plus agents, etc

If the 50K all in is right then I have to wonder if that was used by Hauge as a lever to raise his salary.

I would guess the Greek salary would've been tax-free. Have you ever heard anyone paying taxes in Greece?

Avoiding paying tax is a Greek past-time and they are very good at it. The best one I remember from my time over there was with the houses. Plans and permission for say a three storey house, build two storey's and then stop. That way it wasn't finished and you didn't pay housing tax, hence why you see so many buildings over there with those metal spikes coming out the top. You've got to love them, great people.

[mckenny16]

If it is Pedersen's agent talking to the press, does no-one think that he's saying £50,000 (or the Norweigen difference) so Pedersen does not lose face? Perhaps he does not want everyone to know that he's taken a pay cut. He could be embarrassed by it.

Look at it from the agent's view, he would want potential new clients to know that he can get his clients the best deals available, not force them into taking pay cuts.

Perhaps JW and BFS have done the right thing and done exactly what we all would have done: made Pedersen sign a lower basic wage contact with more bonuses based on performances. If we get back the goal scoring Pedersen of old, we would not be complaining, he would just be picking up his bonuses - and be value for money (If you can get that in football these days!!).

[47er]

I'm in the minority here, but Pedersen has been an important player for us. I'd probably agree that he's not one of our best, but his set pieces HAVE proven problematic often this season. He's had a few brilliant games, chipped in with a couple of goals and assists and has stayed injury-free for the entire season. I have rarely seen him make a mistake... I've seen him be ineffectual, but he's rarely error-prone. 60k/week is probably a bit over the top, but I can see the reasons why Sam and JW decided to keep him.

It'd be hard to find a set piece specialist who can do throw ins, corners and free kicks like Pedersen does, AND stays fit all season for an affordable price.

You were going OK till you said that "60k/week is probably a bit over the top."! Its 10k a week more than Arsenal are paying Chamack!

[brian_gallagher85]

I know, I don't believe it either, this link states,

"The Sun claims that the Greek club are using a £25,000-a-week wage offer as bait to lure the player into joining their fold."

If you translate this taken from the msn link,

'Og lønnbetingelsene er i stjerneklassen. Gamst Pedersen går fra 350 000 til 550 000 kroner i ukelønn. Noe som gir en årslønn på snaue 29 millioner kroner.'

'And salary conditions in the star class. Gamst Pedersen goes from 350 000 to 550 000 in weekly pay. Giving an annual salary of less than NOK 29 million.'

350 000 is roughly £38,000.

GET BACK TO WORK!

As for paying no tax in Greece, cut the uselss wasters adrift then

[neophox]

I know its off topic bud does anyone know if we could apply for intertoto cup?

[gumboots]

I know its off topic bud does anyone know if we could apply for intertoto cup?

Doesn't exist. disappeared into the Europa league

[gumboots]

If that article is right and your willing to pay £1 million pound signing on fees and £50,000-£60,000 a - week in wages,your club won't need much selling.

Our club is unfortunately in a relatively small and uninteresting town in the north west of England. It's true that the majority of our players don't live in the immediate area but, depending on age and family status live either in Manchester or in leafy suburbs in Cheshire. We don't have huge crowds (though they are on the up) For various reasons we are not fashionable, not anyone's pet second team, not especially liked by other teams fans and certainly not by tv and newspaper journalists who don't so much dislike us as see us as an annoying irrelevance. It means that often we have to pay a bit over the odds to players because that's what persuades them to come here if they aren't 100% sold on us. Most players find they love us once they get here, and very few have a harsh word to say when they leave, but getting them to sign on the dotted line has been and seems to continue to be a bit of a problem.

[alexanders]

You were going OK till you said that "60k/week is probably a bit over the top."! Its 10k a week more than Arsenal are paying Chamack!

Who is unproven in the premiership.

[budha]

Who is unproven in the premiership.

And we have to compensate our lesser status (CL etc) with £'s. If Arsenal would've wanted Pedersen, they wouldn't had to match our £-offer as they have other things to leverage with.

[magicalmortensleftpeg]

Who gives a damn about Pedersen's salary? an extra £10-15k a week is cheaper then forking out £5/6m for a transfer fee plus similar wages on a player to replace him.

I care more about this potential Guti move then anything to do with Ped's salary.