[Archived] Potential Summer Transfers (2010)

[Majiball]

Current Bosmans,Loads of players have re-signed the last 2 weeks.A real kick in the goolies for clubs like Blackburn and Torino.

Germany.

Hamit Altintop

Spanish League.

Ignacio Camacho

Argentina

Juan Sebastian Veron - Replacement for That Turkish fellow you had.

Riquelme - replacement for Andrews

Brazil

Andres D'Alessandro - did not know he was on a Bosman-decent player.

Dimitrios Salpingidis - Greece League.

Portuguese

Claudio Pitbull - Sounds like someone who will add bite to the midfield.

Pitbull, pity he doesn'y live up to his name. Are you sure Riqulme is a freebie? I thought he had re-signed? If he hasn't, he'd make a great rover much better than Guti.

Out of curiousity where did you get the info mate? I can only find it for the big three countries england, italy and spain. D'Alessandro wouldn't be a bad choice if available. I would like to see us nick Camacho still young and was so highly rated before aguirre stopped playing him.

[Roberto Policano]

Out of curiousity where did you get the info mate?

From a list lying around the office,Haven't got a clue if the South American players are right.

[Majiball]

From a list lying around the office,Haven't got a clue if the South American players are right.

So there are still some things the internet can't provide.

Riqulme, I'm 99% sure signed just before he went under the knife. Surprised to see Alessandro he was alright at Pompey, he's also a fighter so if he's on a free, I'd have him over Guti purely because he's younger.

[alexanders]

Did anyone ask about the danish attacker Søren Larsen who's currently with the danish national team and just got released by toulouse?

He's tall, strong and a decent finisher.. Havent had much luck in toulouse since his move from schalke 04.. But on a free and probs quite cheap in wages.

If I'm not wrong Espen, he was your topscorer in WC Qualification as well?

[Roberto Policano]

David Fuster has always looked ok to me at Villarreal.

Never even heard of 4 of the players in the portuguese list.

[alexanders]

From the list you've posted Robert Policano I would like us to have a look at:

Riquelme (instead of Guti) - better player than Guti.

Andres D Allesandro - as soemone else mentioned he looked very lively at Pompey.

Hamit Altintop - Strikes me as a good player and would suit a 4-3-3. Has a good shot on him.

Simon Vukcevic - A very interesting player. We have been linked with him earlier and is a an attacking midfielder who scores goals. I will say 12 goals in 39 matches for a midfielder is very good. Has according to Wiki had a dispute with his coach and hasn't played much lately. Is probably looking to get away from Sporting. He is also 24 and has a good re-sale value.

[Majiball]

David Fuster has always looked ok to me at Villarreal.

Never even heard of 4 of the players in the portuguese list.

He'd look good in a Torino shirt.

I've just found an article on his contract talks (Riquelme) and he hasn't re-signed as he was going to??

contract talks not sorted

SOD GUTI, SAM.

GET YOUR ASS OUT TO ARGIE LAND AND SIGN HIM UP!!!

[47er]

He'd look good in a Torino shirt.

I've just found an article on his contract talks (Riquelme) and he hasn't re-signed as he was going to??

contract talks not sorted

SOD GUTI, SAM.

GET YOUR ASS OUT TO ARGIE LAND AND SIGN HIM UP!!!

Goddam useless manager doesn't have a clue eh?

I agree. This is how squad salary inflation happens. On that money, he HAS to be the best player on the pitch week in, week out to keep the others at bay. Once he isn't, then Samba's agent, Dunn's agent, Robbo's agent, who all then know that the club WILL pay 70k/week, do their jobs and look after their clients' interests by demanding the same. The only way to head this off is to have an upper limit, not bust through it by 40% for the sake of one player.

Looking at the broader picture, Sam is giving the impression of making it up as he goes along. For the last 3 months, every post-match interview focused solely on how our strikers were rubbish and we needed new ones, which must have done wonders for Roberts' motivation and Nico's confidence. Then it was LT articles about how we MUST sign one before the world cup. Then, we discover, that our main target for the last 3 months, the Pole, isn't experienced enough, as though he became somehow less experienced since being put at the top of the list. Then it's drop everything because Salgado's had a word with his mate, who by the way would bust our already top-heavy wage structure wide open and take up all of the striker budget.

To you EIT and "The 8 Admirers" please answer me this:"How on earth did we ever finish 10th?" Not as if we're well managed or anything!

[Majiball]

Goddam useless manager doesn't have a clue eh?

What?

Just so your aware, Riquelme is one of my favourite players. But if you want to take it as criticism of Sam thats up to you. Why wouldn't I want to see him in a Rovers shirt, I've said it on here enough times.

Whats EiT, actually said thats not true from the info we the fans have gotten via the press? Sam's signed some good one's and some bad ones to date. He's always been a bit hit and miss in the market, just look at his record at both Bolton and Newcastle. Others have also raised the issue that we seem to have changed our tune, because Guti is a possibilty.

Next time as opposed to trying witty one liners you may actually want to try reason.

Roll on the post limit!!!

[alexanders]

Riquelme is one of my all time favourite players as well. A superior player to Guti. He has technique, passes, vision and a good shot/free-kick/corner on him. Dont know what he would demand in wages and I think he might a little bit too lightweight and maybe lazy, but I would love it if he came here.

[47er]

What?

Just so your aware, Riquelme is one of my favourite players. But if you want to take it as criticism of Sam thats up to you. Why wouldn't I want to see him in a Rovers shirt, I've said it on here enough times.

Whats EiT, actually said thats not true from the info we the fans have gotten via the press? Sam's signed some good one's and some bad ones to date. He's always been a bit hit and miss in the market, just look at his record at both Bolton and Newcastle. Others have also raised the issue that we seem to have changed our tune, because Guti is a possibilty.

Next time as opposed to trying witty one liners you may actually want to try reason.

Roll on the post limit!!!

A post limit won't affect me much!" Sod Guti" and "get your ass out" don't sound too complimentary to me but I apologise if I misunderstood."What's Eit said that's not true via the press" is exactly my point.And if we've changed our tune because someone new became available, well why wouldn't we?

[DasGelb]

Riquelme is one of my all time favourite players as well. A superior player to Guti.

Totally disagree! Guti has been playing regularly for one of the best teams in the world for 10 years +. Riquelme never really made it in Europe. Neither in Villareal (Had one good season, but was sent back to Boca on loan at the end of his contract when his fitness let him down) and certainly not at Barca.

[Manchester Blue]

I was under the impression Riquelme left Villareal because he wanted to go back home to Argentina so i'd be surprised if he was interested in coming back. May be wrong but that was my recollection. Great player though.

[Majiball]

A post limit won't affect me much!" Sod Guti" and "get your ass out" don't sound too complimentary to me but I apologise if I misunderstood."What's Eit said that's not true via the press" is exactly my point.And if we've changed our tune because someone new became available, well why wouldn't we?

And why wouldn't some still want to stick with the first plan buy a striker?

Non-complimentary as you may perceive them I don't see criticism of Sam in there at all. "Get your ass out to Argie land" should be the quote you used, all it means is "Sam go to Argentina and sign him for Rovers". I most certainly do not want him to bare his bum, as your quote suggests, there is no period so you need to appreciate the context of the whole sentence.

As you've said if we are just after the best player we can get in any position, then IMO Riquelme is better than Guti. So, "if we've changed our tune because someone new became available, well why wouldn't we?".

[Billy Castell]

If Dzecko is off to Man City, perhaps a cheeky bid for RSC, Cadiedo or Bellamy is in order. Mind you, the latter is only any good when Hughes is manager.

[alexanders]

Riquelme had a bust up with Manuel Pellegrini.

I disagree with you DasGelb. Guti has been a part of a great Real Madrid and has in periode struggled to impress. He only has 14 national caps.

Riquelme was according to wiki running for Fifa player of the year award in 2005. He was very influential in Villareals success in Europe. He has 64 caps for the Argentinian national team.

Dont get me wrong DasGelb. I love Guti Haz, but I think Riquelme is a better player. It might be very subjective considering I am a huge Argentine fan.

Also conseridering that Riquelme is 2 years younger I think he would be the better buy.

[Majiball]

Totally disagree! Guti has been playing regularly for one of the best teams in the world for 10 years +. Riquelme never really made it in Europe. Neither in Villareal (Had one good season, but was sent back to Boca on loan at the end of his contract when his fitness let him down) and certainly not at Barca.

Riquelme is a magician, just becuase he didn't play at barca much they still parted with serious cash for him. You may also want to consider whether Van Gaal, the manager at the time wanted him? Or whether he was the presidents signing? One good season at Villareal??? Nominated for world player of the year, artistic player of the year as well (winner) two year loan, with them stumping up one of the biggest fee's they've ever paid, for him?

He never went back because of his fitness, he went to Boca because him pellegrini and the president fell-out.

Boca have made the semi's of the south american Champions league most years than not since he went back as well. Fans still calling for him to be included in the national team even after retiring back in 2007. Why because he's stubborn sticks to his guns and does not like Maradonna. 68 Caps and 18 goals for one of the best footballing teams in the world hardly sounds like a bad player.

His biggest failing is his eratic behaviour and the fact he sticks to his guns and is un-moving in his opinion. He was a victim at Barca since Van Gaal never wanted him.

I was under the impression Riquelme left Villareal because he wanted to go back home to Argentina so i'd be surprised if he was interested in coming back. May be wrong but that was my recollection. Great player though.

Riquelme fancies premier league move?

Its a pipe dream but if we're willing to part with 60-70K for Guti, then maybe thats enough to tempt him?

[Hughesy]

Riquelme IF he would come to England, has FAR bigger fish to fry - sad but true! Back to reality eh!

[Majiball]

Riquelme IF he would come to England, has FAR bigger fish to fry - sad but true! Back to reality eh!

Guti IF he can be persuaded to come to England, Has far bigger clubs after him - sad but true! Back to showing no ambition eh!

Roll on Ledley and Benjani, great!!

[Hughesy]

Guti IF he can be persuaded to come to England, Has far bigger clubs after him - sad but true! Back to showing no ambition eh!

Roll on Ledley and Benjani, great!!

Guti is coming to the end of his career, his best mate works here, and he has already had some discussions about it - and has also been told he is free to leave. Is basically so far Us or Zenit?! Money or top league!?

Riquelme left Europe, wanted to go back home & has no links at all with us. If he was to go anywhere in the prem then it would be a top 7 team (Liverpool, City, Tottenham).

[RoyRover]

My scouting:

Miralej Sulejmani - Ajax thought theyd signed the next superstar hasn't seen much game time and has been made avfailble as hes not justified his 15 million price tag, quick, creative, eye for goal and a very big tip of mine to bounce back and come to light. Cheeky loan bid?

Danko Lazovic - PSV reserve but dont let it put you off, 19 goals for Vitesse in 07 but been on the fringes of the PSV team, solid, about 6ft can head and has a good shot also reminds me of kevin davies he can play that right wing position tosupport the main striker. 1 mill?

Demba Ba - Big lad upfront for Hoffienheim had a spell inengland as a yts at watford, scores a fair amount of goals but a better version of Heskey. 5mill?

Dimitry Sychev (lokomotiv Moscow), Felipe Caciedo (Man City ressies)

These are the players that stood out for me from your list. Sulejmani looked like he was the real deal when he played for Hereenven but has under performed at Ajax. He's a talented player. He wouldn't be able to play up front by himself, but he could be a good option behind the striker. Danko Lazovic is another Serbian, who like Sulejmani, would be a better link forward, than an out and out striker. He will be at the World Cup with Serbia, so we'll be able to see more of him then. I don't see him being the type of player Rovers go for unfortunately. A third Serbian that I'll throw in is Marko Pantelic, who also plays for Ajax. The guy is a goal machine is set to leave Ajax on a free transfer. He wouldn't have the size or strength to play up top by himself, but he would be a fantastic addition to the squad and would be a real threat with a striker along side him. I've liked Demba Ba since he came up with Hoffenheim and started banging in the goals in the Bundesliga. He's big, strong, fast and can score. He's a far better version of Jason Roberts. Dimitry Sychev is a good player and a regular Russian international. He's fast, skillful and can finish, but he could struggle in England, like Pavlyuchenko initially did when he joined Spurs. We couldn't afford him the same time to settle in, especially since we are doing the same with Kalinic. Caciedo is a player that interests me a lot. I think he would be a good signing, with his size and speed. I'd be happy he we got him and managed to get another striker on a free (not Kris Boyd) or on loan like Carlos Vela.

[BPF]

Guti is coming to the end of his career, his best mate works here, and he has already had some discussions about it - and has also been told he is free to leave. Is basically so far Us or Zenit?! Money or top league!?

Riquelme left Europe, wanted to go back home & has no links at all with us. If he was to go anywhere in the prem then it would be a top 7 team (Liverpool, City, Tottenham).

1. He is coming to the end of his career. He has spent most of it in the beautiful city of Madrid. For that reason, I don't see how that is an advantage for us over another team. Unless of course he is thinking "Jesus, I love butter pies, off to Lancashire for Guti."

2. He has already had discussions (According to Nicko) and that was at least a week ago and yet no further action, he is clearly massively enthused towards it and not holding out for something better...

3. If your best mate worked for P & Y Computer Repair in Preston, but you were offered a job on a far superior salary working for IBM, potentially in a slightly worse job, what would you choose?

Following and waiting for Lord Guti to decide on his future is a very dangerous game. We do not have any form of strikeforce worth shouting about. The Guti situation could result in Rovers being very short for the start of the new season...

What happened to the whole "We need a new striker, top priority" Sam?

[Roberto Policano]

Danko Lazovic signed for Zenit a few months back.£4million pounds if my memory serves me correctly.

[Majiball]

Guti is coming to the end of his career, his best mate works here, and he has already had some discussions about it - and has also been told he is free to leave. Is basically so far Us or Zenit?! Money or top league!?

Riquelme left Europe, wanted to go back home & has no links at all with us. If he was to go anywhere in the prem then it would be a top 7 team (Liverpool, City, Tottenham).

They are mates, not Best mates. Gala want him an arab club want him, I'm also sure a few Spainish clubs are thinking him over as well (Guti). Zenit are a top team, Champions league football and can offer him as much money as he wants? Your putting a lot of stock in his relationship with Salgado and his desire to come play here, in a very different style of league. We have a physical league, one which Salgado a renowned physical player back in spain loves, I wonder why? So does that logic apply to Guti? No, Guti is not renowned for that aspect doesn't like getting kicked and generally avoids that side of the game.

Prior to him, Guti being linked with us I'll wager you would have said exactly the same about him. Top 7 (United, Chelsea, Arsenal, City, Spurs, Liverpool, Villa), no chance would have been your reply. He's not been linked to us. And yet we're trying to sign him? Signing a player of his ilk, is exactly what we need, but if Guti doesn't come, why not try for another Quality player. As opposed to putting all our eggs in Guti why not cover our ass, and try another at the same time?

Riquelme has said he'd like one last shot at the premiership, do we not play in that league? He actually wants to come to England, can you say the same of Guti? We're in with a chance, buts thats all it is. Riquelme is also free to leave Boca since his contract has expired.

This thread is about suggesting potential targets for our club, I'm suggesting Riquelme. And who's to say that with a player of his quality, and at 31, we wouldn't be able to push for one of those top 7 places, or near enough. If we want to improve as a club and get higher up the league then we are going to need quality players to do it, and he most certainly is that.

If it doesn't work out (Guti) lets not aim for another quality player (Riquelme) lets just settle for second best with the likes of Ledley and Co, who are not good enough to push us up the league.

Ambition, something a lot on here seem to have forgotten, in recent times.

Aim for the moon, that way, even if you miss you'll still be amongst the stars! - W. Clement Stone

[nicko]

I'll say it again...Guti is available...

http://www.goal.com/en-india/news/222/transfer-zone/2010/05/28/1946284/real-madrids-guti-praises-manuel-pellegrini-as-jose-mourinho

Riquelme is a terrific player, but has turned down England before because of the language.

Kris Boyd may well be the same.