[Archived] Potential Summer Transfers (2010)

[magicalmortensleftpeg]

Just to put it into perspective David Villa went to Barcelona for around £30 million. To say that Samba would command a fee of around £15 million because he is one of your best players and you do not have to sell him is ridculous in comparsion, he is definatly not worth half the value of Villa.

As some of you have pointed out we have got big debts but Sullivan and Gold have both come out and said they are willing to push the boat out for certain players and maybe Samba is one of these. I personally think there are better defenders out there for the money, such as Davis at Villa, but with Upson a potential sale this summer we will have some money to play with to replace him. We were however linked with David Wheater as well this morning which sounds more within our price range and i can't see us getting both him and Samba.

Anyway, happy 'transfer' hunting and enjoy the world cup.

The reason why Samba would cost £10m plus isnt because he is neccesarily worth that as a player, its because he's our captain, we dont need to sell and he's tied down to a long term contract. If you want him you're going to have to pay a big big price, not because he's as goos as David Villa but because we have no intention of losing our best defender.

[John]

Is not selling to be able to buy exactly the definition of being a trading club, which I believe is what we are?

While I wouldn't be keen to see Samba go, the fact is that we have plenty of good CB's and no good midfielders or effective strikers, so if we had to sell to buy, then that would make the most sense to me.

I was referring to Sam's opinion of the player. He is our captain, crucial to the way we play plus our best defender.

Hardly leads to the thinking that Sam would be keen to sell him, even if it did provide him with more money to spend in the market.

[67splitscreen]

The last thing Sam needs now is to start a search for a CB, I'd be very surprised if he was sold in this window.

[den]

I'm amazed that no-one has mentioned the possibility that Samba has a get-out clause. If that were the case, all previous posts are invalid.

[tony gale's mic]

I'm amazed that no-one has mentioned the possibility that Samba has a get-out clause. If that were the case, all previous posts are invalid.

Since the contract was only signed last year, I can't imagine Rovers would have put in a get out clause that the likes of West Ham could afford.

[modes98]

Just to put it into perspective David Villa went to Barcelona for around £30 million. To say that Samba would command a fee of around £15 million because he is one of your best players and you do not have to sell him is ridculous in comparsion, he is definatly not worth half the value of Villa.

Wow I don't think you could have picked a worse comparison. Ronaldo went for £90m, and Samba is worth 1/6 of him

When looking at transfer fees you need to look at a few things:

Age: 26

Experience: 112 PL games

Skills: Speed, Awareness, Height, Attacking Threat

Bad Points: Red Cards

Injury History: Few and far between. (mind you WHU like injury prone players)

Competition: If you bid, we would go public as there would be a number of interested parties.

Need of club to sell: No need currently

Value of players in a similar position: Lescott, Upson, Toure, etc (Not all the same standard but still applies)

I don't think we would be unreasonable to ask for £10-15m. If he goes to a top 4 team he will come on very quickly.

[den]

Since the contract was only signed last year, I can't imagine Rovers would have put in a get out clause that the likes of West Ham could afford.

Samba would be very influential in the actual fee agreed. We sold Bellamy for £6m because of a clause, only one year after signing.

Who knows what Wham could pay - no one on here does. Who knows that it would only be Wham who wants him?

There's a lot of fee speculation going on here.

[tony gale's mic]

Samba would be very influential in the actual fee agreed. We sold Bellamy for £6m because of a clause, only one year after signing.

Who knows what Wham could pay - no one on here does. Who knows that it would only be Wham who wants him?

There's a lot of fee speculation going on here.

We didn't sign a new contract with Bellamy though that was the initial contract he signed when coming here. Plus that was a rare occurence, our other clauses (RSC, Duff) have been very high figures. I think it's very unlikely Rovers would have put a release clause in Samba's contract which was less than £10m, if one was put in at all. And whilst no one knows what West Ham can pay, people can make reasonable estimates like they can with other clubs - especially given their very recent financial struggles.

[Hughesy]

do you actualy think you will get £15 million for him. Thats shocking, i mean he is a good defender and i would like him at West Ham but i would pay no more than £6 million.

£6m????

Lescott - £24m

Chris Smalling from Fulham - £9m

Samba £6m?!

[SYRovers]

Whoever wrote this needs a good kicking and should never be allowed near a keyboard or pen ever again.

http://www.7amkickoff.com/2010/7amkickoff-exclusive-joe-cole-not-set-to-sign-for-blackburn-rovers/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+7amkickoff+(7amkickoff)

[den]

I think it's very unlikely Rovers would have put a release clause in Samba's contract which was less than £10m,

Rovers aren't in control of the value though. Samba, being a valuable asset to rovers would be in prime position to dictate any fee. I don't know whether Samba has got a release clause, but I wouldn't bet against it. In fact I would bet that he has got one - and as I say it's not simply down to the club to decide on the fee.

My point being that the people arguing to the Wham fans that there's no way rovers need to sell Samba could well be very wide of the mark. It might be in the hands of other clubs' managers, as were Bellamy, RSC and Duff.

[BPF]

Samba sold to fund the wages of another star in the closing stages of his career.

No thank you.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

I would be pished off if Samba was sold,very,very angry if to a club like West Ham and fookin furious for under 10 million in this current player market.

KUMB.....dont those cockney boys think their something!

[Manchester Blue]

Rovers aren't in control of the value though. Samba, being a valuable asset to rovers would be in prime position to dictate any fee. I don't know whether Samba has got a release clause, but I wouldn't bet against it. In fact I would bet that he has got one - and as I say it's not simply down to the club to decide on the fee.

My point being that the people arguing to the Wham fans that there's no way rovers need to sell Samba could well be very wide of the mark. It might be in the hands of other clubs' managers, as were Bellamy, RSC and Duff.

However as has been pointed out the only clause that was particularly low was Bellamy's largely cos it's the only way we could sign him. The only other two so far have been players who had fees set probably way above their actual value and were only triggered by clubs who could clearly afford to pay silly money. Does that sound like West Ham? Doesn't to which is why i can see why people are laughing at suggestions that we might lose him for £6m.

[Doaksie]

Swap deal - Simon Cowell gives us Olly Murs and he can have Diouf to do whatever he likes with? Thought he done well tonight.

[den]

Doesn't to which is why i can see why people are laughing at suggestions that we might lose him for £6m.

Who's laughing and who's suggested we will lose him for £6m MB?

[Manchester Blue]

Who's laughing and who's suggested we will lose him for £6m MB?

The West Ham fan who first reported suggested the £6m and the people were laughing can be found on plenty of previous pages.

Clearly you've always had an issue with the clauses but the fact remains we've done well out of them. Citeh fans at work are convinved we got the sale of the century when we got £17m for Santa Cruz. Similarly with Duff £17m for a player that never once lived up to expectations after leaving us was great business for us.

[Kelbo]

As one proffessional footballer told me last week, the pro's are nervous of West Ham due to the involvement of the Porn Kings who involve themselves too much in football matters, I think they will have serious problems in signing anyone this close season.

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

The West Ham fan who first reported suggested the £6m and the people were laughing can be found on plenty of previous pages.

Clearly you've always had an issue with the clauses but the fact remains we've done well out of them. Citeh fans at work are convinved we got the sale of the century when we got £17m for Santa Cruz. Similarly with Duff £17m for a player that never once lived up to expectations after leaving us was great business for us.

I agree we did some brilliant business with Santa Cruz - a player on his day who is worth £17m - but is rarely on the pitch long enough to show it.

I disagree totally about Duff - who had some brilliant years at Chelsea. I would agree that he was better as a big fish in a small pond at Rovers (and to some extent when he played for Ireland) but you can't call his career a failure.

I think you also need to consider the relative impact of each player leaving - Santa rarely played the season before he left so the impact was hardly felt. In Duff's case he had just had the season of his life - we had finished sixth - and in Emerton had bought a player who would have complimented Duff. I remember seeing the team pre-season at Blackpool - and looked forward to the season with genuine optimism - all went up in smoke when Duff left (and Ferguson arrived).

[Manchester Blue]

I agree we did some brilliant business with Santa Cruz - a player on his day who is worth £17m - but is rarely on the pitch long enough to show it.

I disagree totally about Duff - who had some brilliant years at Chelsea. I would agree that he was better as a big fish in a small pond at Rovers (and to some extent when he played for Ireland) but you can't call his career a failure.

I think you also need to consider the relative impact of each player leaving - Santa rarely played the season before he left so the impact was hardly felt. In Duff's case he had just had the season of his life - we had finished sixth - and in Emerton had bought a player who would have complimented Duff. I remember seeing the team pre-season at Blackpool - and looked forward to the season with genuine optimism - all went up in smoke when Duff left (and Ferguson arrived).

Along with Dunn, Duff was onee of my favourite players to ever put on the shirt so i am in no way deriding him as a player. However he achieved very little of what he could have done given the talent he had and certainly played a fraction of the games he would have hoped to have done. Ultimately though we got about 5 or 6 million more than he was worth due to the clause. Obviously you could argue that without the clause we'd not have sold him at all but clubs like Everton and Villa are finding that you can talk big all day about not selling but ultimately money talks and if a player wants out you are forced into a situation.

Of course Duff going hit us hard but sadly the nature of the game is that we pick up potentially very good players and when we turn them into just that, a bigger club comes along and takes them off us. All we can do as a club is to ensure we get the maximum we can for that player. If Samba does indeed have a clause then i have utmost confidence it would price the likes of West Ham firmly out of the market for him.

[bluebruce]

Similarly with Duff £17m for a player that never once lived up to expectations after leaving us was great business for us.

That's simply inaccurate. Duff was an incredible player, Chelsea missed him sorely when he was injured, and he is still good enough to get in our team now. Only injury problems have stopped me from saying we were ripped off (think of the amount of years we'd have had him for if we kept him til now, and how much that would translate into per season).

RSC was an exceptional piece of business for us. Just a shame we got so little to reinvest.

Samba 6 million eh? Precisely why Wham won't be getting him.

[Mr. E]

still nothing eh?

[philipl]

Anyone from the club reading the last few pages knows there will be a big fans' backlash if Samba gets sold to West Ham for anything under £15m.

Mission accomplished Hammer- well done!

[Valois]

still nothing eh?

Nope, just everyone getting inot a frenzy that Samba is going to be sold to West ham, because some rat of a West Ham came on here saying he heard from some 'reliable' source Samba was going to sign for them. Nonsense Nonsense Nonsence.

Another story linking us to this Pedersen bloke

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1284492/West-Brom-join-race-Norwegian-sensation-Marcus-Pedersen.html

Santa Cruz off to marseille for $8million ???

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1284489/Roque-Santa-Cruz-offered-escape-Manchester-City-French-champions-Marseille.html

Doesn't look like much is happening transfer wise, and with the world Cup starting on Friday, I dont anticipate to much activity until it's over and done with now, apart from the Grella deal been confirmed, and maybe Gutti (fingers crossed) confirmed. In regards to a striker, no rush, no need to panic, plenty of time to get the right man, for the right price.

[joey_big_nose]

That's simply inaccurate. Duff was an incredible player, Chelsea missed him sorely when he was injured, and he is still good enough to get in our team now. Only injury problems have stopped me from saying we were ripped off (think of the amount of years we'd have had him for if we kept him til now, and how much that would translate into per season).

RSC was an exceptional piece of business for us. Just a shame we got so little to reinvest.

Samba 6 million eh? Precisely why Wham won't be getting him.

I think Duff only had one and a half good seasons at Chelsea before injuries took a major toll. Never really performed for Newcastle, has looked decent for Fulham but a shadow of his former self.

£17 million was great business in that context. Shame we wasted the money! Emerton was okay, Ferguson a total writeoff, Amoroso amusing. Who else did we get? I can't remember!