[Archived] Potential Summer Transfers (2010)

[gumboots]

Some signings we will accept immediately as great business by the manager, some we will question the manager until he proves us wrong.

If Wenger/Ferguson/Mourinho can make mistakes in the market, so can Allardyce, however good a manager he is.

I didn't say it might not be a mistake - just that he wanted him and still wants him, so if it's affordable he'll get him. And we don't get a choice. If we did, Andrews wouldn't be here. And before anyone says it - I know Allardyce didn't sign him, but he could probably have sold him and chose not to, and keeps playing him if he needs to.

[AggyBlue]

just that he wanted him and still wants him, so if it's affordable he'll get him. And we don't get a choice.

It's obviously too hard for some people to understand

[S15]

It's obviously too hard for some people to understand

Hang on.

Pretty sure everyone understands, what you have entered is a discussion where people are expressing their opinions and reasons behind them with regards to the signing.

If it's just the cold, hard facts you're after, stick to the news boards.

[AJW]

Dindane - international class striker who is 29 so still got a few years left , has scored goals in a p155 poor portsmouth team for around £2m ..... put that into perspective ... we got £2m for Mccarthy a 32 year old striker who scored (id i remember rightly) most of his goals in the last season and a half from the penalty spot) with an allergy to running.... no brainer really innit??

[Sparky Marky]

I'd have liked us to go seriously for Altidore at Hull....I think he'll be a top player....we're the type of club that he should be stepping up to at his stage in career.

[Paul Mellelieu]

Dindane - international class striker who is 29 so still got a few years left , has scored goals in a p155 poor portsmouth team for around £2m ..... put that into perspective ... we got £2m for Mccarthy a 32 year old striker who scored (id i remember rightly) most of his goals in the last season and a half from the penalty spot) with an allergy to running.... no brainer really innit??

So Dindane (will) do. I'll get my coat....

[BRFC1995]

i can't believe there is a grain of truth in the dindane story, as soon as pompey are out of the league they'll be out of business and i can't believe a club as frugal as ours would'nt just wait and offer peanuts to get him off they're wages.......2million sounds absolute rubbish for a slightly younger roberts.

[Ricky]

Pompey don't own him though.

[92er]

i can't believe there is a grain of truth in the dindane story, as soon as pompey are out of the league they'll be out of business and i can't believe a club as frugal as ours would'nt just wait and offer peanuts to get him off they're wages.......2million sounds absolute rubbish for a slightly younger roberts.

We aren't buying from Portsmouth.

[Exiled_Rover]

I'd have liked us to go seriously for Altidore at Hull....I think he'll be a top player....we're the type of club that he should be stepping up to at his stage in career.

Good call he looks very useful.

[RoyRover]

Jallet went to. New owner might have an impact - seems to have done so far. Hoping to get to the match next weekend if there are tickets left. there usually are but it's rennes i think so as a local derby there might be less chance

Thats right, Jallet went to PSG didn't he? That's a move that will put an end to any promising career! I was the the Rennes v Lorient game in November. The Stade Route De Lorient wasn't sold out for that one. I imagine though with the work that is going on at La Beaujoire, tickets will be at a premium.

[gumboots]

Thats right, Jallet went to PSG didn't he? That's a move that will put an end to any promising career! I was the the Rennes v Lorient game in November. The Stade Route De Lorient wasn't sold out for that one. I imagine though with the work that is going on at La Beaujoire, tickets will be at a premium.

Yes but the new stand where the old virage sud was is totally open now I think, so we might be ok. Depends if we can get to Lorient before the match or if they are selling them in supermarkets as they sometimes do! This is the only game we can get to this season since the early one against Montpellier so we're keeping our fingers crossed.

[imy9]

That would be the Bellamy who was possibly the second best player behind Shearer, in a very good Newcastle team managed by Bobby Robson?

That would be debatable, what is factual is that he played 120 games in the league and scored 28 goals, that is about 1 in 4 games. His prime asset was his pace, I would argue (having seen Dindane a number of times this season), that Dindane has as much pace as Bellamy, which will allow us to counter attack teams, it will also be interesting to see whether he plays on the right of a front 3 in a standard 4-4-2 or as a winger.

[vintageadidas]

I know nothing about the following guy but my mate has returned from 12 months teaching in Rosario, Argentina and used to be on the books of United before getting a serious injury. He has done some scouting too albeit a few years ago.

Had a drink with last night and he stated this guy: Joaquin Boghossian was awesome to watch and will be worth millions in the not to distant future.

Also said he would fit in with Sam's style. He also saw a few scouts from a few well known clubs checking him out.

Sell on potential and all that.

[RoyRover]

Thats right, Jallet went to PSG didn't he? That's a move that will put an end to any promising career! I was the the Rennes v Lorient game in November. The Stade Route De Lorient wasn't sold out for that one. I imagine though with the work that is going on at La Beaujoire, tickets will be at a premium.

Le Moustoir. Not La Beaujoire, where Nantes play.

[Torgeir]

You don't need to tell me that it's always important to get value for money. It's the "we'll have him if he's below £2m" quotes that get me. First off, that totally ignores the total package cost and secondly, it's no way to conduct transfer deals.

So taking cost into consideration makes no sense, is that what you're saying?

If yes, then:

"I don't want Dindane, I'd rather have Messi."

Not sure I understand your thinking on this one, but feel free to enlighten me

[den]

That would be debatable, what is factual is that he played 120 games in the league and scored 28 goals, that is about 1 in 4 games. His prime asset was his pace, I would argue (having seen Dindane a number of times this season), that Dindane has as much pace as Bellamy, which will allow us to counter attack teams, it will also be interesting to see whether he plays on the right of a front 3 in a standard 4-4-2 or as a winger.

Dindane's as good as Bellamy because Bellamy's prime asset was his pace?

I said earlier that I know nothing about Dindane, but I suggest you know about as much of Bellamy?

[Ewood and I Would]

So taking cost into consideration makes no sense, is that what you're saying?

No, he's saying you can't judge a potential transfer just on the 'head line' transfer figure. His wages and bonuses could make a huge difference to the overall cost of signing him.

That seemed pretty clear to me?

Dindane's as good as Bellamy because Bellamy's prime asset was his pace?

I said earlier that I know nothing about Dindane, but I suggest you know about as much of Bellamy?

To be pedantic he did say his "prime asset" and NOT his "only asset". I would say Bellamy's PRIME asset was his pace although he has many other qualities too.

[gumboots]

Le Moustoir. Not La Beaujoire, where Nantes play.

Sorry did notice that you hadn't put Le moustoir but then it's also called something else Yves somebody or other and so it didn't dawn on me that you'd named Nantes stadium.

[den]

To be pedantic he did say his "prime asset" and NOT his "only asset". I would say Bellamy's PRIME asset was his pace although he has many other qualities too.

Agreed.

[Ewood and I Would]

It just seems weird to me....

* What if he gets a career ending injury at Pompey, how can they afford the compensation given they're cash strapped and won't we look bad in the media for claiming it?

* What if he gets injured at the World Cup after getting there for playing well at Pompey, will the Ivorian FA pay us compo (again asking a 3rd Wold country for thousands of pounds makes us look bad even if they can afford Sven's wages)

* What if he scores the goal that knocks England out, it'll be our fault?

[saxo1man30]

to those questioning sam AGAIN regarding the possible signing of dindane not being `star class` enough for you-

how many times does our manager have to make you look the fool before you back him? we have consistantly improved as a team since the day sam walked through the door and we are now at a stage where we have 6(SIX) highly promising young players in various on field posistions regulary playing in the first team, at the same time as climbing up the league table and threatening a top 10 finish.

aruna dindane is 29 years old, not 33 or 34. he has a good 3 years in him at peak level. as stated, we already have a healthy crop of younger players and we have to balance that out with more experienced players. let sam build the team as he wants, he has more than earned the right to do that now. when you`ve seen the picture emerge, then pass comment.

i can`t help but get the feeling that some(though thankfully few) would still have o`driscoll from doncaster in charge at rovers, regardless of sam`s acheivements in his short time here.

[Ewood and I Would]

To be fair considering our budget I don't thhink Dindane would be a bad buy. Personally, I think thnk Sam sees Kalinic as our future and at the moment he needs someone pacey to play off him and he's great at holding up the ball.

Yes Jason Roberts is no slouch but for some reason his runs always see him end up at the corner flag.

[bennyboyt11]

So taking cost into consideration makes no sense, is that what you're saying?

If yes, then:

"I don't want Dindane, I'd rather have Messi."

Not sure I understand your thinking on this one, but feel free to enlighten me

I took it as we shouldn't buy players just because they're 'only £2m', but rather if they would improve our squad, preferably pushing for a place in the first 11.

[Steve Moss]

Dindane at £2m is what passes for good business in the Prem these days.

I think at 2 million he is a good deal. Odds are good he'll be better than McCarthy, so positive direction for same net value. Hard to argue with that.

I may be on my own but if Di Santo were available for 2M I would get him. Has pace and strength and a great first touch. No where near clinical enough in front of goal as we are all aware but he should have improved in that respect with time and confidence. Dindane, Kalinic and Di Santo isn't Shearer, Sutton and co but its probably as good as we can do. I hope we sell Roberts while we can.

Di Santo will go back to Chelsea, but I suspect he will be looking for a club by the end of August. He needs to play football. I think there is a very good player aiting to emerge with him, but one or two doubts have crept in of late. He is still very young and that type of striker gets better as he gets older.

I also think Di Santo would be a good investment, if we can get him cheap.