[Archived] Potential Summer Transfers (2010)

[Hughesy]

Our other target costs £4.4m - perhaps the reason we wont pay £5m??

[Majiball]

Thats if the other target will come here??????

[nicko]

This is all rather odd...and a bit of a recurring theme.

The manager sets up the Lewandowski deal...and then the club struggles to match the fee and package of two other foreign clubs.

The manager sets up the Dindane deal...and then the deal stalls over the fee.

[Hughesy]

LT Doesnt say we CANT meet the valuation - its just journo guess work again!! One minute he says we might be priced out, next he says we wont be willing to throw all our budget at it...he really doesnt know what it is!!

"Blackburn Rovers fear they could be priced out of the market for Polish international star Robert Lewandowski – despite appearing to have become the striker’s favoured destination.

Rovers are understood to have already made a huge impression on the 21-year-old and his club Lech Poznan but are unlikely to be willing to meet the Poles’ £5million price tag.

Genoa and Borussia Dortmund are also in the race to sign the striker, with the Italians already having a verbal bid for in the region of £4.3m turned down, with Poznan keen to tie up a sale by the end of the week.

Rovers have yet to submit an official bid for Lewandowski, with their valuation seemingly some way from the asking price, and are ready to step up their interest in other targets if a compromise can’t be reached.

The striker himself though is believed to favour a move to Blackburn Rovers and the Premier League, having been impressed by Sam Allardyce’s personal sales pitch.

The Rovers boss has already briefly met with the player and club officials in Poland and emphasised their commitment to youth - pointing to the likes of Steven Nzonzi, Nikola Kalinic and Martin Olsson as evidence.

German outfit Dortmund are expected to make their interest official in the next couple of days though, with Genoa also considering an improved offer, leaving Rovers running out of time.

The club though look unlikely to be prepared to throw all their available funds into the signing of an inexperienced 21-year-old - especially having already spent £6million on Croatian prospect Nikola Kalinic last summer"

INFO ON MGP......

"Rovers’ summer budget remains unknown, with valuable prize money still up for grabs in their Premier League campaign and with the uncertainty surrounding Morten Gamst Pedersen’s Ewood future.

The Norwegian has been told he has to decide whether he is going to sign a new deal by the middle of this week, with Rovers wanting to know which areas they need to target in the market. "

[Iceman]

How is it silly? Why pay £5m if you can pay £4m? If we want the player that badly he'll sign for us, and I bet it's for less than what his club want for him.

Ps. I'm not mellison, cock.

mate, no need to be rude. Your name has been filtered to appear as mellison. I typed your name in as mellison and it came up as mellison. As Eddie said, why would Lech consider a lower bid, when not 1, but 2 clubs are willing to meet their valuation. If both those clubs are willing to make it 5mill up front, and we want that payment staggered over 3 years, then Lech will not sanction the move.

[Majiball]

Let me get this straight.

Benni's transfer fee, plus his wages. Reid leaving on a free, Di Santo's wages, several players on the fringes who have been attracting some interest (Kish, Brown), new TV deal as well, money for Adam Johnson. And we still can't stretch to a poxy 5 million? I think its time to start checking employees pockets as they leave.

If in all seriousness we can't even spend 5 million a year then we are royally screwed. I hope its just us playing hardball but at the end of the day if he's our first choice we should just bite the bullet and pay.

[Hughesy]

If both those clubs are willing to make it 5mill up front, and we want that payment staggered over 3 years, then Lech will not sanction the move.

Where does the article above say that?!?

Let me get this straight.

Benni's transfer fee, plus his wages. Reid leaving on a free, Di Santo's wages, several players on the fringes who have been attracting some interest (Kish, Brown), new TV deal as well, money for Adam Johnson. And we still can't stretch to a poxy 5 million? I think its time to start checking employees pockets as they leave.

If in all seriousness we can't even spend 5 million a year then we are royally screwed. I hope its just us playing hardball but at the end of the day if he's our first choice we should just bite the bullet and pay.

Benni's transfer fee - £2m+

Wages - £800k (based on say 30k)

Tv money extra - 2 games = £1m

Extra TV money next season, Di Santo & Reid on the way out....possibly MGP & Zurab too.

Im sure everyone on here can add up - we can EASILY afford the £5m, its simply the way we do business to drive a hard bargain!!

[nicko]

I have to say I had heard roughly the same as the LT have reported...which is that there seems to be a difference between the manager wanting to do the deal and the money men being reluctant to pay all of the cash.

It's not a crisis yet but when you pull in players for talks and then don't go through with deals it makes the job very difficult.

Interesting times.

[Iceman]

Where does the article above say that?!?

im not saying that is the case Chris, im just saying that if we offering lower, or messing about, then other clubs will offer more. Lewandowski has checked out Genoa already, that shows that he is keeping his options open.

i know for a fact, and this came from a top official within the club, that the budget for next season will be small. What that amounts to, i dont know though.

I have to say I had heard roughly the same as the LT have reported...which is that there seems to be a difference between the manager wanting to do the deal and the money men being reluctant to pay all of the cash.

It's not a crisis yet but when you pull in players for talks and then don't go through with deals it makes the job very difficult.

Interesting times.

its not interesting times Nicko, its more frustrating times... new tv deal, could earn a few extra with league position, Benni's transfer and wages, and any other outs and we still struggling to pay? Sounds very dodgy to me that, and as a fan you have to wonder what exactly is going on.

[modes98]

The board wanted future talent to splash the cash on and this is one of them. If we are haggling over a few £100k then it's really not worth it. I just hope as Shilly says it's all a tactic to get him for slightly less and spend our fortune elsewhere, alas I fear it isn't and we are just broke.

[LeChuck]

Lancashire telegraph reports that the polish lad wants to come to rovers, however rovers can't mmeet the valuation of 5 million. Genoa and Dortmund have and he is likely to move to one of them by the end of the week.

Absolutely disgusting if that is true.

£2.5 million Benni fee, plus £1 million ish wages, plus around £1.5 million for finishing above budget. Even if we finish 13th, £1.5 million investment isn't much to ask.

I don't believe we're playing hard ball over the fee at all. If Genoa/Dortmund are prepared to pay more for Lewandowski, why we he dig his heels in for a move to us? They obviously want him more than we do.

[Torgeir]

I have to say I had heard roughly the same as the LT have reported...which is that there seems to be a difference between the manager wanting to do the deal and the money men being reluctant to pay all of the cash.

It's not a crisis yet but when you pull in players for talks and then don't go through with deals it makes the job very difficult.

Interesting times.

So much for having money to spend eh? Glad I didn't get carried away with this one either, we'll probably end up bringing Duncan Ferguson in on trial in August after having signed Dindane for £1.5 million.

[RibbleValleyRover]

IF it's true then its pretty clear we won't have much to spend this summer. When you consider we need at least 2 strikers and ideally a midfielder or two it's not looking good. Let's hope the mines aren't empty and Sam can find some rough gems to polish.

Nicko, iirc you mentioned in January that you heard rumours that the club would provide Sam with some extra funds for a young talented player with a potential resale (Adam Johnson was the target in mind iirc). Surely Lewandowski would fit the bill? Unless of course this was a one time only offer in Jan?

[Exiled_Rover]

Oh come on, history is full of this kind of scenario. The player will 99 times out of 100 join the club he wants to join. If he digs his heels in there is no doubt we will get him cheaper, with a payment structure that suits us. This is all assuming he really does want to join our club over the other two clubs.

"Sorry, son, Rovers are playing silly buggers. So take your pick - Dortmund or Genoa."

That's what will happen.

[Iceman]

So much for having money to spend eh? Glad I didn't get carried away with this one either, we'll probably end up bringing Duncan Ferguson in on trial in August after having signed Dindane for £1.5 million.

Desperate times calls for desperate measures,so step forward Christian Vieri and Robbie Fowler

[Cocker]

Desperate times calls for desperate measures,so step forward Christian Vieri and Robbie Fowler

Matt Jansen

[Clitherover]

and all the sexy birds!

What's that supposed to mean?

[RibbleValleyRover]

I'm sure it won't go down well with the fans if we have offered Pedersen a new contract with a pay rise which he ends up signing and yet we can't afford to buy an exciting talent with some serious potential in Lewandowski. I know the wage budget and transfer budget are usually seperate but they do have an impact on each other.

[Iceman]

Matt Jansen

Corrado Grabbi(Roversmum's favourite player )

[Majiball]

Where does the article above say that?!?

Benni's transfer fee - £2m+

Wages - £800k (based on say 30k)

Tv money extra - 2 games = £1m

Extra TV money next season, Di Santo & Reid on the way out....possibly MGP & Zurab too.

Im sure everyone on here can add up - we can EASILY afford the £5m, its simply the way we do business to drive a hard bargain!!

So whilst we bum around looking for some sort of student discount, the two other teams who have met the valuation get more time to persuade the lad they are the right choice. The lads been loyal to Lech and since he's been there most of his career surely he'll not want them to lose out on an extra £1 million or so, which is serious money in Poland. I applaud the way we do business in the main, but sometimes you just have to bite the bullet. If he's the man Sam wants sort something out so we don't have to settle for second or third choice.

Its OK playing hardball when your the only team bidding ala Mundane, but the teams we are up against are hardly no-bodies and must be an attractive proposition to the lad, especially Dortmund who could even make the Champions league. If they do qualify and we're still haggling I can see them becoming a more attractive proposition than us. People can say he has a better platform in the prem but scoring goals in that comp is far more attractive to any potential big team (future move for the lad), than scoring goals in our league. The new TV deal is meant to be worth 7-8M to each club according to the BBC every season and yet again we seem to have lost ours down the back of the sofa.

Also consider what Sam must think he sorts out the deal has the lad wanting to sign at this moment in time and we drag our heels, that must be very frustrating for him. Also if I was the lad and had heard all the spiel, we want you we need you etc etc and then we start dragging our heels, well its not far fetched to believe that he might just think they can't want me that badly after all should it drag on.

Personally I think Sam's earnt the right to get his number one target after our overall performances this season, he obviously doesn't feel its an excessive amount, since he will have sorted most of it out and will have known the fee from the off.

I'm sorry Hughesy but if we can't even stretch to one 5 million pound player a season then long term we will struggle as bargains get harder and harder to find, as that amount is peanuts to the rest of our league.

Surely we will get some polish supporters from it? They stick together and love football, to off set the extra dollar.

[LeChuck]

"Sorry, son, Rovers are playing silly buggers. So take your pick - Dortmund or Genoa."

That's what will happen.

In a nutshell, unless we quickly get our act together.

[rigger]

At a time of year when fans are asked to think about getting money out of there pockets for season tickets, it isn't reassuring when the club do not seem to want to part with there money on what seems a good investment. Well as good as an investment gets in football.

[Ewood and I Would]

So whilst we bum around looking for some sort of student discount, the two other teams who have met the valuation get more time to persuade the lad they are the right choice.

We had nearly two pages of debate based on a falsehood, that Dortmund/Genoa have met the £5 million valuation. Can someone point me where it says that in the LET?

It says that Genoa have had a 4.3m offer turned down and doesn't even mention if Dortmund have bid or not and yet everyone on here has read the article as both clubs meeting the £5m asking price.

If you actually read the article, you will see that nither Genoa or Dortmund have met the valuation (or even submitted an offical written bid) but the LET journo 'thinks' or assumes they'll be making an imporved offer in a few days...why not think or assume Rovers will make a better offer too?

Seems like a run-of-the-mill transfer to me. Several perties involved, all trying to offer as little as possible to get the man they want. I seem to be the only person to have read the story properly.

[unluckymorton]

At a time of year when fans are asked to think about getting money out of there pockets for season tickets, it isn't reassuring when the club do not seem to want to part with there money on what seems a good investment. Well as good as an investment gets in football.

Our club also appreciates that the supporters budgets may be tight too, hence the cheap season tickets.

Why does everyone expect the club to just splash the cash and pay clubs asking prices? Do you want to end up like Portsmouth and Leeds?

It's called value engineering, every business does it to ensure they get the best products at the best price. Rovers seem to be making a very good job of staying financially stable in what is possibley the best league in the world while other bigger clubs fail. Lets be thankful of that and respect the club management decisions on transfers, Sam has made some cracking signings up to now so let's let him have the final word before kicking off at every report in the tin pot tabloids.

[nicko]

IF it's true then its pretty clear we won't have much to spend this summer. When you consider we need at least 2 strikers and ideally a midfielder or two it's not looking good. Let's hope the mines aren't empty and Sam can find some rough gems to polish.

Nicko, iirc you mentioned in January that you heard rumours that the club would provide Sam with some extra funds for a young talented player with a potential resale (Adam Johnson was the target in mind iirc). Surely Lewandowski would fit the bill? Unless of course this was a one time only offer in Jan?

There IS money to spend...

There just seems to be a bit of a disagreement about how to do deals.

Someone from your club invited Lewandowski over last weekend - and wants him back in a fortnight.

You don't do that with a player under contract unless you have permission of his club [Lech Poznan] and that club thinks you are doing business at the price quoted.

If someone wants to leak after that - to the local paper and around the circuit - that they don't want to buy him at that price then there seems to be a serious communication problem within the building.

At the end of last week Rovers had a fighting chance of doing this deal. Now I am not so sure.