Hughesy Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Shame but if he can't cut the mustard might as well look for a fee for him rather then let him disappear on a free. Hardly set the world alight at Plymouth in 2 years so hardly suprised! Get a fee for both him & Bunn - and possibly Brown too if we could bring Scheimichael (sp) on a free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Billy Castell Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Judge has no future @ Ewood Bit disappointing, but I felt the same about Ciaren Donnelly so that's no guide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vintageadidas Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Bunn needs to be kept. He is better than Brown and KS. Judge is simply not good enough. Get rid. Most of the players behind the first team squad will end up in lower division obscurity. We need to start exploring further avenues for development of our youth system. Nicko, any ideas on who we went to see in Honduras? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicko Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Nicko, any ideas on who we went to see in Honduras? Too many possibles to count...and too hard to spell. There are a lot of Honduras players who could come to England and are all very cheap. Wigan have brought in three already and might bring another three in this summer. Cheap labour, but hard characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyboyt11 Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 How many smaller nations can clubs scout before the cheap players run dry... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanGreenMachine Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Jonjo Shelvy off to Liverpool for less than a couple of million, daylight robbery... Feels like we missed a deal there. On the subject of Hondurans, its odd that these guys seem to suit the physical nature of the Premiership were as other South American players struggle. Heard anything about who is for the chop come this summer Nicko? There is plenty of deadwood to shift out, will SA be looking to some of the youngsters in the reserves to fill the voids left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unluckymorton Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Jonjo Shelvy off to Liverpool for less than a couple of million, daylight robbery... Feels like we missed a deal there. On the subject of Hondurans, its odd that these guys seem to suit the physical nature of the Premiership were as other South American players struggle. Heard anything about who is for the chop come this summer Nicko? There is plenty of deadwood to shift out, will SA be looking to some of the youngsters in the reserves to fill the voids left? I hope we're not going to get posts complaining that we missed out on every player that moves over the closed season.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 £1.7m + future add ons for a League 1 player?? Sounds like a risk we cant afford to take Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanGreenMachine Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 The reasons i mentioned Shelvey are a)He is a central midfield player b)He fits the mould of "sign young and cheap, sell for big money in future" c)He is English d)From the few times ive seen him, he has fantastic ability for a 17 year old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeChuck Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Shelvey will be a fantastic player, he'd already be better than Pedersen in our formation. Thing is though, we can't compete with Liverpool so it's not like we've missed out. The time to go for him was last season, we could have had a clear run then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanGreenMachine Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 True i guess, but for aspiring youngsters Liverpool is hardly the place to go, thier youth system has been a shambles. The deal was done by King Kenny apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 I see what your saying MGM however..... The reasons against: 1 - No premier league experience 2 - Not even any experience even @ Championship level 3 - VERY difficult to assess someones talent when they are playing 2 leagues lower (see Andrews ) 4 - £1.7m, rising to £3m is a big risk on a 'Football Manager' potential star....especially given our 'spare' cash. 5 - Even if we could - Chelsea, Arsenal & Liverpool would put an end to our interest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silencio Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 I see what your saying MGM however..... The reasons against: 1 - No premier league experience 2 - Not even any experience even @ Championship level 3 - VERY difficult to assess someones talent when they are playing 2 leagues lower (see Andrews ) 4 - £1.7m, rising to £3m is a big risk on a 'Football Manager' potential star....especially given our 'spare' cash. 5 - Even if we could - Chelsea, Arsenal & Liverpool would put an end to our interest! yeah, but you would be creaming yourself if we had signed him for 1.7 million and your Andrews comparison/Football Manager comments have no credibility.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanGreenMachine Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 True with all the points, but as i say, for a 17 year old to be bossing people at that level (a very physical league) still shows somthing abit special to me. With the fee's involved it could very well be a drop in the ocean if he contines to show his potential at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebruce Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 I see what your saying MGM however..... The reasons against: 1 - No premier league experience 2 - Not even any experience even @ Championship level 3 - VERY difficult to assess someones talent when they are playing 2 leagues lower (see Andrews ) 4 - £1.7m, rising to £3m is a big risk on a 'Football Manager' potential star....especially given our 'spare' cash. 5 - Even if we could - Chelsea, Arsenal & Liverpool would put an end to our interest! I haven't seen the player in question, but a few obvious things strike me. Andrews was playing THREE leagues lower, and was what, 27 when we signed him? This kid is 18. Nobody mentioned Football Manager. We often take risks for similar money on "proven" Premiership players (for proven, read ageing carthorse with no resale value). And finally, if Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool were interested, it might not have been the most colossal risk at that price. Anyway, so sense crying over spilt milk. He's Liverpool's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Zigic wants prem move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
47er Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Marks a return to the Liverpool of old. They regularly pillaged the lower leagues, signed players for nowt and you never heard of them again for 2 or 3 years till they emerged as ready-made stars while the old uns they replaced gave Liverpool a big fee and did bugger all. Kevin Keegan for 35000 from Scunthorpe (?) and legend Ian Rush from Chester City and countless others. It can be done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Liverpool buy about 10 kids a season - so hardly a return to old - it will only be a return to old if they actually make it for a change. I think this deal is based on 2 things - talented & to fill their home-grown quota. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJRovers Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Not sure if it has been discussed but the LET's current article about Rovers transfer budget again paints a desperate picture of the state of our finances. If we hadn't sold Benni and finish 13th, by the sound of it we would have zero transfer budget this summer. Burnley will have a bigger transfer budget to spend this summer, fact. It just hits home the position of our owners who: - Won't put any money in - Won't take any more risk on or speculate - BUT if it is such a burden to them, won't allow us to be sold below a price which currently is putting buyers off. Also for those still having a go at Big Sam, name another credible manager who would actually join a club where he had no money to improve the team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeChuck Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 It's reported that Tuncay will be leaving Stoke this summer. He would be brilliant for us on the wing, he's exactly the type of player you need out wide in the formation we play - someone who will be a goal threat and be attack minded. Maybe Tugs can put in a word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manc Rover Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 It's reported that Tuncay will be leaving Stoke this summer. He would be brilliant for us on the wing, he's exactly the type of player you need out wide in the formation we play - someone who will be a goal threat and be attack minded. Maybe Tugs can put in a word. He's on daft money at Stoke so we've no chance there. I agree with you, though, he would be great in our team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vintageadidas Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Whilst flipping through the "random channels" on Sky late one night last week i came across a programme featuring some of the brightest young talents in world football at the minute. I think it was taken from footage of last year and early this season. Some exceptionally gifted talents around the world. Alot seemed to be based in Chile, Brazil and Spain. The only one i can remember is: Romelu Lukaku. Class. The programme was highlighing the fact that many talents can still be unearthed. It is just getting out there and finding them. The signing of Zigic would ensure that the ball will never ever be played on the floor at Ewood Park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadlyDirk Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Whilst flipping through the "random channels" on Sky late one night last week i came across a programme featuring some of the brightest young talents in world football at the minute. I think it was taken from footage of last year and early this season. Some exceptionally gifted talents around the world. Alot seemed to be based in Chile, Brazil and Spain. The only one i can remember is: Romelu Lukaku. Class. The programme was highlighing the fact that many talents can still be unearthed. It is just getting out there and finding them. The signing of Zigic would ensure that the ball will never ever be played on the floor at Ewood Park. Lukaku is class, or at least potentially, would probably fetch over 10m and is only 16! He's extremely highly thought of, already a full Belgian international. I agree though there are plenty of talents out there, it's a case of finding the ones that can adapt to the premiership, but that's why managers and scouts get paid millions a year between them! Hopefully they are on the case of a few unknown talented players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadlyDirk Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 I see what your saying MGM however..... The reasons against: 1 - No premier league experience 2 - Not even any experience even @ Championship level 3 - VERY difficult to assess someones talent when they are playing 2 leagues lower (see Andrews ) 4 - £1.7m, rising to £3m is a big risk on a 'Football Manager' potential star....especially given our 'spare' cash. 5 - Even if we could - Chelsea, Arsenal & Liverpool would put an end to our interest! To be fair I think youth wise we are pretty well set up right now and agree that it's a gamble we don't need to take, and as mentioned even if we wanted him it's not as though we'd be his first choice. Arguing over nothing really. We have the likes of Olsson, Jones, N'Zonzi and Kalinic who are all young with good potential and as much as I rate them all they still have a way to go before they can be considered match winners, we need to look to strengthen with some quality in my opinion. 3m is a risk that would be great if we had spare cash floating around but right now we can't afford to take too many gambles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddboy Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Zigic wants prem move Not sure Niko would welcome that one – given which country he plays for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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