[Archived] Rovers Might Have Been Sold?

[PAFELL]

You obviously know nothing about this, so why try and pretend otherwise...you just spout the bleeding obvious.

I do not and have not claimed to know anything on this subject. But others on here dismiss this Indian group - from what they write on here - without knowing any facts - I have not claimed to know any either. I suggest you read posts properly before replying.

I think you need to read my post again ......slowly. I am questioning and disbelieving that ANY of the "rubbish" quotes we have seen on here over tha last few weeks have actually come from ANY bona fide business group who are negotiating with BRFC on the subject of a takeover.

Point taken Fife Rover. I also do not believe that we have received any bona fide quotes from any involved in the business part of this group.

[Exiled in Toronto]

We haven't had a bona fide quote from the head of the Trustees for 10 years - only second hand 'quotes from their 'front man' Williams, who seems not to have any serious money. Stay clear.

[Steve Moss]

We haven't had a bona fide quote from the head of the Trustees for 10 years - only second hand 'quotes from their 'front man' Williams, who seems not to have any serious money. Stay clear.

I'm not knocking the Indians. I don't know anything about them. For all I know, the Shah is the front man for an Indian multi-billionaire who went to school as a child in England and became a life long Rovers fan and now intends to invest hundreds of millions into his boyhood club. Or not.

One difference between Williams and the Shah is that we know exactly whom Williams represents. The Walker Trust, the Walker businesses and the Walker family are widely known. The Shah is the agent of a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma (needed to get a Churchill quote in).

Another difference is that the Shah seems to conduct himself as a rank amateur who apparently hangs out with the Nathaniel-types of the world. By contrast, Williams is the consummate businessman and gentleman. To be fair, however, the Shah might be a great guy, and as he new to all of this, he simply fell in with the wrong crowd as part of his exploratory effort.

Third, its been months and there is no sign that progress has been made. If we were being bought by Mr. Moneybags Rover Fan, I think matters would have been resolved by now.

All told, there is somereasonable cause for concern. It could still end well, but I reserve the right to be apprehensive until it does.

[den]

I'm not knocking the Indians. I don't know anything about them. For all I know, the Shah is the front man for an Indian multi-billionaire who went to school as a child in England and became a life long Rovers fan and now intends to invest hundreds of millions into his boyhood club. Or not.

One difference between Williams and the Shah is that we know exactly whom Williams represents. The Walker Trust, the Walker businesses and the Walker family are widely known. The Shah is the agent of a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma (needed to get a Churchill quote in).

Another difference is that the Shah seems to conduct himself as a rank amateur who apparently hangs out with the Nathaniel-types of the world. By contrast, Williams is the consummate businessman and gentleman. To be fair, however, the Shah might be a great guy, and as he new to all of this, he simply fell in with the wrong crowd as part of his exploratory effort.

Third, its been months and there is no sign that progress has been made. If we were being bought by Mr. Moneybags Rover Fan, I think matters would have been resolved by now.

All told, there is somereasonable cause for concern. It could still end well, but I reserve the right to be apprehensive until it does.

Smoss. If you're looking for the truth, well no-one knows anything. How you get to the point that there is reasonable cause for concern, I don't know.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

The Shah files.......the truth is out there.

[Laurence]

No signings by August + potential takeover = 'business as usual' ????

More like "No business as usual"

[thenodrog]

Oh you never know....Theno may decide to open his piggy-bank one day soon. Well we can live in hope can't we?

Fife... I'd have to be as rich as Croesus with no dependents a terminal illness and more money than Abromovich and the Arabs at City put together before I'd fund a premier league outfit full of mercenary Carlos Kickaballs and spoilt English players who all think they are God's gift to the great game.

[Fife Rover]

Fife... I'd have to be as rich as Croesus with no dependents a terminal illness and more money than Abromovich and the Arabs at City put together before I'd fund a premier league outfit full of mercenary Carlos Kickaballs and spoilt English players who all think they are God's gift to the great game.

I'll let you in on a little secret Theno

I actually agree with you; but please don't let any of the others know ..........they wouldn't understand. I think they have high hopes that you will become the next Rovers Messiah. Sssshhhhhhh!!

[Baz]

I'll let you in on a little secret Theno

I actually agree with you; but please don't let any of the others know ..........they wouldn't understand. I think they have high hopes that you will become the next Rovers Messiah. Sssshhhhhhh!!

He didnt say no, did he?

[rebelmswar]

I don’t know why so many people seem down on this takeover, at the very least we will have someone affiliated with the club that can effectively utilize a corner.

[Steve Moss]

Smoss. If you're looking for the truth, well no-one knows anything. How you get to the point that there is reasonable cause for concern, I don't know.

1. We know they are interested in buying.

2. We don't know who "they" are.

3. "They've" been interested since the end of last season.

4. "Their" interest has only slowed down the acquisition of Rover transfer targets and their integration into the team.

5. Despite the new season looming, "they" have not closed the deal.

6. "Their" only known associates are from what I would call the flaky side of life.

All total, the Indians' interest has resulted in nothing concrete, has delayed the advancement of the Rovers, and all I know about them is that "they" appear to be associated with party animals. Since "they" have not presented themselves as professionals, I am concerned. Though I have tried to make allowances per my previous post.

[Paul]

You are forgetting that the only ones to say something publicly are chris nathaniel and Shah. But the others behind or supporting Shah have said nothing. They have been silent all along. To such a degree that we still do not know who they are.

It's my experience when one comes across business individuals who don't fit a company's image those individuals don't last long or the business proves to be something other than the image it portrays.

[Iceman]

Is it possible, that we have moved on from Shah to somebody else?

[philipl]

Anything is possible, just that nothing yet is highly probable.

[koi]

Fife... I'd have to be as rich as Croesus with no dependents a terminal illness and more money than Abromovich and the Arabs at City put together before I'd fund a premier league outfit full of mercenary Carlos Kickaballs and spoilt English players who all think they are God's gift to the great game.

How do you make a small fortune from owing a football club? Start with a large one....

[den]

All total, the Indians' interest has resulted in nothing concrete, has delayed the advancement of the Rovers, and all I know about them is that "they" appear to be associated with party animals. Since "they" have not presented themselves as professionals, I am concerned. Though I have tried to make allowances per my previous post.

Nothing concrete - yet.

"Appear to be party animals" - total guess work Smoss, we know no "facts" about them.

Since "they" have not presented themselves as professionals, I am concerned. - Where's the evidence of them "presenting themselves anywhere?

You're running them down, while knowing absolutely nothing about them. You don't know where the backing money is coming from, you know nothing about the people involved and you know nothing about their professionalism.

Sorry mate, but there are a lot of assumptions being made about this bid.

[Iceman]

Nothing concrete - yet.

"Appear to be party animals" - total guess work Smoss, we know no "facts" about them.

Since "they" have not presented themselves as professionals, I am concerned. - Where's the evidence of them "presenting themselves anywhere?

You're running them down, while knowing absolutely nothing about them. You don't know where the backing money is coming from, you know nothing about the people involved and you know nothing about their professionalism.

Sorry mate, but there are a lot of assumptions being made about this bid.

agree... those quotes on Twitter could be anybody, not necessarily Shah. However, if its not Shah, then he should put a stop to it, if he knows about it.

[thenodrog]

It's my experience when one comes across business individuals who don't fit a company's image those individuals don't last long or the business proves to be something other than the image it portrays.

Correct Paul. Also illustrates the difference between knowledge and wisdom.

[Majiball]

Ah but knowledge leads to wisdom.

[Stuart]

Ah but knowledge leads to wisdom.

Experience leads to wisdom

[RevidgeBlue]

Sorry mate, but there are a lot of assumptions being made about this bid.

We know they've been hanging round for quite a while now and haven't yet reached the stage where they've been allowed to inspect the books.

When you strip it down to the basics if you have the money and want the Club badly enough the process shouldn'y really be that difficult should it?

[Iceman]

We know they've been hanging round for quite a while now and haven't yet reached the stage where they've been allowed to inspect the books.

When you strip it down to the basics if you have the money and want the Club badly enough the process shouldn'y really be that difficult should it?

Liverpool want to have new owners in place as quickly as possible. Hmmm, now i know its better to play it safe by taking your time, but why is it that other clubs are concluding these deals so quickly (Pompey excluded)? is it a matter of them being able to show the money, which makes me wonder what the hold up is with these Indians.

[philipl]

You mean the sale of Liverpool that FOUR investment banks have had a go at over the past 24 months?

[OscarRaven]

If (as seems to be the trend in the Premier League) 'takeover time' is inversely propotional to the wealth of the buyer, it would seem we are heading for a leveraged buy out.... with squat to spend and our new chairmen / directors taking an extra 2-3 million out in pay....

I'd love to see the odds for Sam to walk (out of frustration) vs. takeover to be done before Christmas.

For Sale: Mid table Premier League Football Club, 1/15000 share £3000, projected annual dividind -£450 (includes season ticket). Relegation will result in total loss of 'investment'. Any takers?

The great 'Football Collapse' must now be as inevitable as the banking crisis... an industry fuelled by media hype and vain billioniares isn't one I'd want to invest in.

[den]

We know they've been hanging round for quite a while now and haven't yet reached the stage where they've been allowed to inspect the books.

Link to that Rev? BTW, when you phrase it "hanging round for quite a while now", doesn't that point to an already static viewpoint