[Archived] Rovers Might Have Been Sold?

[philipl]

I don't get some of the stances around here...

Saurin Shah takes forever to make a move. His pals twitter away with a lot of old bo11ocks.

Syed makes a move. His people twitter away with a lot of old bo11ocks.

One is ridiculed for it, yet it is ok for the other.

Too much for me to take in.

Shah is clearly linked to Chrs Nthnl (or was)- in fact it was your good self who first alerted us to the link there if I am not mistaken.

The Syed twitters are a few folk with less than 20 followers between them re-tweeting existing press coverage.

Shah runs a business which at best is worth $10m from the financial reports posted on the internet and has hardly made a big impact on the local business community

Syed runs a private investment bank operating out of Bahrain and Switzerland into which he has put $1,000m of his own cash into and is undoubtedly Indian business elite.

Is it really too much to take in?

[nicko]

Is it really too much to take in?

You seem very pro Syed and anti Shah.

I can't see the difference from this range. They both seem to be good at promoting themselves but not so great at doing deals that matter.

But I am sure there is some reason behind your backing...and the coded messages.

[philipl]

One is worth $10m, runs a little software business in Mumbai where he has made minimal impact on the bigger scene and appears to be struggling to pull a consortium together.

The other is apparently sole heir to an enormous conglomeration of interests including sponsoring Indian Test Cricket for a decade and a big chunk of the Indian Olympic team, has made at least $100m in his own right as a entrepreneur and set up his own investment fund lending it $1bn of his own cash.

I am not pro or anti anybody as I have not met either of these guys but from the outside it seems Shah has not got the cash to sustain Rovers long term and Syed has if he so choses.

[whalleyrover]

Kamy gone very quiet. Thought he had link with Syed bid!

[Cortez]

A lot of amateur detective work going on here by people with little/no knowledge putting 2 and 2 together to make 95. This is the main reason we all have to trawl through pages of sh++e to get to anything worth reading. Please, those of you who are trying to put yourselves forward as 'in the know' at least wait until you have something of substance to say rather than posting scaremongering bol***ks!

[deryck guyler's spoon]

Philipl, get it into your head for now, the takeover ISNT going to happen. So the current management team have to get on with it and deliver ! Deliver, they are handsomely paid for it, are they not ..........no excuses.

Very bold statement that. If you know something maybe you'd like to share. I dont want to be nasty but if you've got nowt could you please button it.

[Antgrad]

Mr Cortez

If your post was aimed at me maybe you're quite simply wrong. I wasn't pretending for a second to be "in the know" quite the opposite if you read it. And no amateur detective work was necessary. In my Twitter feed I have a filter that shows everything posted that contains the word Blackburn. This morning one appeared from Deepti Shorii as I mentioned. As the only other tweet she had made also involved WGA I just posted on here to see if anyone knew anything about her. As I said more than once I don't know if it's real or not but that it might be of interest especially as the first posts they made were 5 months before any of us had heard of them.

Sorry if posting information that may be relevant to Rovers being sold on a message board for Rovers fans upsets you. I'll make sure I run things by you first before I post anything else.

[deryck guyler's spoon]

Mr Cortez

If your post was aimed at me maybe you're quite simply wrong. I wasn't pretending for a second to be "in the know" quite the opposite if you read it. And no amateur detective work was necessary. In my Twitter feed I have a filter that shows everything posted that contains the word Blackburn. This morning one appeared from Deepti Shorii as I mentioned. As the only other tweet she had made also involved WGA I just posted on here to see if anyone knew anything about her. As I said more than once I don't know if it's real or not but that it might be of interest especially as the first posts they made were 5 months before any of us had heard of them.

Sorry if posting information that may be relevant to Rovers being sold on a message board for Rovers fans upsets you. I'll make sure I run things by you first before I post anything else.

Without wishing to blow smoke up your backside I thought your info was interesting. There are a couple of posters on the last two pages though who having been telling us that the takeover wont happen despite having nothing to back it up.

I'm sure Cortez can speak for himself but I suspect that his post might have been aimed at them.

[Antgrad]

I'm sure Cortez can speak for himself but I suspect that his post might have been aimed at them.

If that's the case I apologise. Where's the darn delete button?

[PAFELL]

You seem very pro Syed and anti Shah.

I can't see the difference from this range. They both seem to be good at promoting themselves but not so great at doing deals that matter.

But I am sure there is some reason behind your backing...and the coded messages.

At the moment there is NO difference between the two group.

Apart from that one seems to be known and part of the other group is not.

We have heard, via the media about Syed's interest and what he wants to do.

We know less about Shah, as we do not know, as yet, who is backing him. These 'backers' have not gone public about their interest - which some on here say that is the way to do business - only Shah himself has gone public.

In my view neither group can be considered favorites to takeover the club, simply because none of us on here know 'everything' that is going on in the negotiations / talks.

I think people on here see this magical figure of 300 mill and say that is the one we want to takeover club. But we do not know his desires etc for the club. Very easy to speak oput in the media - but plan something different afterwards.

For us all it is still a waiting game.

[philipl]

From what can be seen from looking at the accounts, one is 100 times richer than the other.

Doesn't mean that one doesn't have rich committed friends and family nor that the other has any intention of spending on a football club beyond a line in a press comment.

Critically, we don't know how or if either intend to recoup their outlays.

[Sparky Marky]

Totally agree with Phillip here....it's like Del Boy or Richard Branson.....I know who I'd prefer to run the club...Shah looks like he's getting Boycie, Trigger and Uncle Albert as "backers" whereas the other chap(Syed) has a real track record.

[Majiball]

I'd take del-boy he certainly knows how to wheel and deal.

[Sparky Marky]

Yes, but generally a loser....

[Stuart]

This time next year, Maj...

[47er]

Totally agree with Phillip here....it's like Del Boy or Richard Branson.....I know who I'd prefer to run the club...Shah looks like he's getting Boycie, Trigger and Uncle Albert as "backers" whereas the other chap(Syed) has a real track record.

I'm surprised that you know the two men so well but since "it just won't happen" there's no reason for you to express a preference or concern yourself in any way. Is there?

[thenodrog]

has made at least $100m in his own right as a entrepreneur and set up his own investment fund lending it $1bn of his own cash.

How does that work Philip?

[Balwer]

How does that work Philip?

Revenue generated from charging himself fees for managing his own money...

[thenodrog]

oops sorry Jisty

.....I know who I'd prefer to run the club...Shah looks like he's getting Boycie, Trigger and Uncle Albert as "backers" whereas the other chap(Syed) has a real track record.

Indians... 'This time next year Rodders, we'll be millionaires'.

Del Boy... 'This time next year Rovers , we'll be in the Champions league'.

[Balwer]

All this talk about Syed's track record. Can any of you name one company he's been involved with that he's helped turnaround, as hiswebsite suggests? The only one I am aware of him having any involvement in at all is the Irish construction company, and I don't have any details on whether this has been a successful investment to date (as it's very early stages it's hard to tell). As for his pre-WGA records, the only information we have on that is what his CV tells us (a Canadian company is mentioned apparently).

I am not saying he doesn't have a track record, but to date we have no details on it and there is only fractionally more information about him online than there is about Saurin Shah.

As everyone else says, the reality is we know nothing about either him or Shah, how serious they are, etc. Proof is in the pudding.

[philipl]

Revenue generated from charging himself fees for managing his own money...

I was referring to his activities before he set up WGA.

However, unlike WGA which is an audited entity, we only have Syed's biographies to go by on that but as he is looking to bring other monies under the management of WGA, he can be expected to be very carefully scrutinised for telling porkies in his CV. As no doubt Rothschilds are checking him out very carefully as well.

Therefore, I'd expect the assertions he makes would stand up to scrutiny.

[Balwer]

I was referring to his activities before he set up WGA.

However, unlike WGA which is an audited entity, we only have Syed's biographies to go by on that but as he is looking to bring other monies under the management of WGA, he can be expected to be very carefully scrutinised for telling porkies in his CV. As no doubt Rothschilds are checking him out very carefully as well.

Therefore, I'd expect the assertions he makes would stand up to scrutiny.

True, I do get the feeling he's more legit than Shah, and there certainly seems to be a huge amount of cash backing him one way or another, but a bit more detail about the background would be reassuring and hopefully we will learn more about it in due course.

[A cup of beans]

I'd take del-boy he certainly knows how to wheel and deal.

haha! sorry maj.... we've missed out on him... david sullivan is already involved at west ham!

[Majiball]

Yes, but generally a loser....

But a winner in the end.

This time next year, Maj...

We'll still be broke millionaires.

haha! sorry maj.... we've missed out on him... david sullivan is already involved at west ham!

I wonder if they've got any inflatable dolls for sale????

[PAFELL]

am I not allowed to agree with Phillip? If it did have to be one of those 2, then I would be more comfortable with Syed, based on his record.

as it happens, I don't think any of them will own the rovers.

Sorry 47er.....forgot it was your own personal message board...prick.

1/ Can you name the people involved with Shah? NO

2/ Can you name the people who want to put the money in? NO

3/ If there is nothing at all worth considering with Shah and his group, why have the talks not come to and end yet?

We can all dismiss things without knowing the facts. But until those 3 questions above can be answered we know NOTHING. I have no idea if they are right for the club etc, as there is currently NO evidence either for or against them. Because we simply do not know enough YET.

We have to wait and see.