Guest roverspogges Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 What policy on veterans? Salgado's arguably been a success since he's found his feet here, Djorkaeff, Campo and Okocha were at Bolton, sure there's been a few duds like with any manager but he's also signed/brought through a lot of youth and a mixture of youth and top quality experience would be great for us. I was going to post something similar to that, completely agree. To suggest Sam will spend "all" the money on 33+ players is daft.
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RibbleValleyRover Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 What policy on veterans? Salgado's arguably been a success since he's found his feet here, Djorkaeff, Campo and Okocha were at Bolton, sure there's been a few duds like with any manager but he's also signed/brought through a lot of youth and a mixture of youth and top quality experience would be great for us. As soon as a veteran player comes on the market Sam gets a whiff of it and wants him. If we had the money we probably would have Guti and Raul in our squad this season, something i and many others are glad didn't happen. More chance of mistakes signing past it players, players with decent pedigrees in the past who cost more money. If we are to have more money to spend I would rather do that on players that have re-sale value, e.g. a 24 year old that we could buy for £8million but if he works out and proves to be a success we could sell for £20 million after a season or two. We don't know how Sam would fare with a signficantly largely budget or what type of players he prefers to go for if money is no object. Pretty sure Sam himself said he has had to focus on bringing youth through like Jones because we dont have much money. I am just pointing out what i believe to be the best way forward for a club like ourselves if we do come into some money. Its a model that worked for us on a smaller budget and could work even better on a larger budget.
BuckyRover Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 OMG i'd forgotten about that no fannying about with crappy loan players Straight to serie A and La Liga!!! I thought about this myself already. It will be like playing CM99/2000 all over again. We had big money back then
Guest roverspogges Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 Whoops. That was meant to be a reply sorry.
tony gale's mic Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 As soon as a veteran player comes on the market Sam gets a whiff of it and wants him. If we had the money we probably would have Guti and Raul in our squad this season, something i and many others are glad didn't happen. More chance of mistakes signing past it players, players with decent pedigrees in the past who cost more money. If we are to have more money to spend I would rather do that on players that have re-sale value, e.g. a 24 year old that we could buy for £8million but if he works out and proves to be a success we could sell for £20 million after a season or two. Thats the sort of model i want to see at the club and one that i believe could work, even with more money. Just as Sam has been doing so far, we'll need youth and experience. If we had more money then what's to say Guti or Raul would have been a bad idea? Raul put in a cracking performance for Schalke vs Bayern on his debut for them. If those young prospects we sign are playing alongside some seasoned and experienced professionals they'll learn more and our team will have more balance to it. I thought about this myself already. It will be like playing CM99/2000 all over again. We had big money back then I wonder if that young whippersnapper Robbie Keane is still at Wolves these days?
beanie Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 Just as Sam has been doing so far, we'll need youth and experience. If we had more money then what's to say Guti or Raul would have been a bad idea? Raul put in a cracking performance for Schalke vs Bayern on his debut for them. If those young prospects we sign are playing alongside some seasoned and experienced professionals they'll learn more and our team will have more balance to it. I wonder if that young whippersnapper Robbie Keane is still at Wolves these days? Also it adds to the reputation of the club if you sprinkle the odd experienced legend into a squad a signing who has options and is say 50 50 about us or going elsewhere might be swayed by playing along side a raul or someone. And on fm was 99/00 the one where richard wright and richard rufus were world beaters.
magicalmortensleftpeg Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 This hasnt happened yet. I dont think treating it all as a formality is sensible. This could still fall apart. If it does go through then its very unlikely we'll recieve any funds before the window closes but i dont care. Id rather we didnt run around at the last minute throwing money at a star simply because we can. Id like us to take a measured approach with some proper planning done. Come January we'll know exactly what we need and where we need it. Right now, a cheap loan deal for another promising striker and we'll be comfortably mid table come Jan. Then we can think about buying.
brian_gallagher85 Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 Pro Evo Master League for me Fifa's January update will be worth downloading
rebelmswar Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 So how did you see the post you just responded to? My other personality saw it. Salgado's arguably been a success since he's found his feet here, Djorkaeff, Campo and Okocha were at Bolton, sure there's been a few duds like with any manager but he's also signed/brought through a lot of youth and a mixture of youth and top quality experience would be great for us. Completely agree, the things that such epic legends can teach youngsters can not have a price put on it. The type of club that he wants to run will benefit from youth and massive experience.
Ewood and I Would Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 New ineterview with Ali Syed in the guardian http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/aug/18/ahsan-ali-syed-blackburn The club has confirmed talks are ongoing with Western Gulf and Syed says he hopes to complete due diligence by next week to push through what would be a cash buyout before the transfer window closes. Is such a time-frame really viable? "One plus one is always two. When you say financial propositions are always complicated, they're not. I'm trying for two weeks. It might [take] three but eventually it will be completed." I guess that makes nicko wrong then based on his own logic of quotations.... He also has a message for the fans.. "To the fans – if you pick up any of my companies there is no single loan in any of them from any other financial institution or other outside party. Any finance is from me, in capital or a loan. I feel proud in making this statement. And that is exactly the first step I want to take with Blackburn. The moment I acquire Blackburn I want to get rid of the loan."
67splitscreen Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 What I'd like to know is are we taking $ or £ billions.
Ewood and I Would Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 What I'd like to know is are we taking $ or £ billions. At the current exchange we're (possibly) pretty rich either way
den Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 New ineterview with Ali Syed in the guardian http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/aug/18/ahsan-ali-syed-blackburn "see if there lies potential to increase the seating of the stadium, Exactly how I said he would approach it. Too many people taking everything he says to the letter.
imy9 Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 Lets wait and see what happens in the next two weeks,i personally cannot see this being completed in two weeks,i think it will be closer to four IF at all, proof is in the pudding, all the interviews say the same thing so I am waiting for it to happen now
magicalmortensleftpeg Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 New ineterview with Ali Syed in the guardian http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/aug/18/ahsan-ali-syed-blackburn I guess that makes nicko wrong then based on his own logic of quotations.... He also has a message for the fans.. Lets wait until its actually completed. Of course the guy is going to say it can be done in two weeks. Im sure that it can theoretically be done in that time, but its highly unlikely. Im liking what he's saying, but that's the easy part. Attracting decent players to the club is going to be hard at first. That is the major challenge if this bid goes through.
67splitscreen Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 At the current exchange we're (possibly) pretty rich either way Ah! but that extra 0 makes a big difference. Putting into perspective, if you started saving £1 per minute it would take you 1900 years to accumulate just one eight of Syed's worth.
Duff's Minder Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 this still smells fishy to me. Even if he means what he says the club needs to be sustainable and selling a few shirts in asia won't cut it.
Billy Castell Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 I'm optimistic, not wildly, but optimistic. At least it sounds like Sayed has a get up and go attitude, which the Walker Trust doesn't seem to show. On a different note, can anyone else imagine us opening football academies in India one day, and developing a well of talent? It's a long shot, but that might be part of the plan, which would help us become 'the face of football' in India, in the same way Liverpool and Man Utd are in Singapore, and how we call vacuum cleaners 'hoovers'.
Ewood and I Would Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 Lets wait until its actually completed. Of course the guy is going to say it can be done in two weeks. Im sure that it can theoretically be done in that time, but its highly unlikely. Im liking what he's saying, but that's the easy part. Attracting decent players to the club is going to be hard at first. That is the major challenge if this bid goes through. Fair points, I was being flippant more than anything..
Ewood and I Would Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 this still smells fishy to me. Even if he means what he says the club needs to be sustainable and selling a few shirts in asia won't cut it. There are one billion people in India, he only needs to attract 0.1% of the population to spend £10 a year on Rovers to make £10m per annum. How many Rovers fans are there in the UK? More than 60k I would bet and that is what 0.1% calculates like in this country. Does anybody know how many shirts we currently sell a year? Football is rapidly growing in India and people support is up for grabs. Syed knows that market better than any other PL chairman and there is no reason with a good cup run we could become popular over there. Just one FA cup could see us gaining thousands of new Indian fans should Rovers target sensible things like that. Only in the UK have I seen Rovers being described as "unfashionable", foreign news outlet are usually much kinder about us so I don't think it's the same as trying to convert people away from Man Utd and Chelsea here because that would never work. But saying a "few shirts in Asia" is massively undderstating the potential there.
DavidMailsTightPerm Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 There are one billion people in India, he only needs to attract 0.1% of the population to spend £10 a year on Rovers to make £10m per annum. How many Rovers fans are there in the UK? More than 60k I would bet and that is what 0.1% calculates like in this country. Does anybody know how many shirts we currently sell a year? Football is rapidly growing in India and people support is up for grabs. Syed knows that market better than any other PL chairman and there is no reason with a good cup run we could become popular over there. Just one FA cup could see us gaining thousands of new Indian fans should Rovers target sensible things like that. Only in the UK have I seen Rovers being described as "unfashionable", foreign news outlet are usually much kinder about us so I don't think it's the same as trying to convert people away from Man Utd and Chelsea here because that would never work. But saying a "few shirts in Asia" is massively undderstating the potential there. I totally agree - there has to be something in the "India" effect. We now have two business men who both feel that Rovers can generate more cash than they currently are by plugging into the sub-continent market. Only difference is that one man has the cash to invest in this vision - he also sounds the closest thing to Jack in terms of the return he wants from the club. However, I remain dubious - he is currently saying exactly what the fans want to hear - lets hope he is more genuine than some of the foreign owners who have been attracted to the EPL.
RevidgeBlue Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 Did anyone hear the interview on talk sport last night with the sportswriter from the Guardian – didn’t catch his name. Was basically questioning Syeds intentions, Liverpool and numerous other city clubs are a much better propositions – maybe. He also claimed Jack Walker “finished off” the stadium so no need to redevelop – Has he ever been to Ewood? Generally just put the club and town down for most of his interview, Darren Gough to his credit fought our corner, but I almost crashed the car in anger! T****r. Just to expand on this Cundy and Gough were talking on Talksport about Man City spending so much money tonight. Cundy disagreed with many callers saying it was "exciting" and "Brings more teams into the mix." Two faced git.
Ewood and I Would Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 Good points David; another thing I wanted to add also was because football is only becoming popular now, you don't have the problem of dad's team being passed down so their choice will be based partially on success but surely they'll be enough people who will be attracted because of the Indian connection and the "plucky" under dog tag which has always been a big draw for me. If we target the FA and Carling Cups we have a realistic chance of winning one given the right investment and those competitions aren't seen as "Mickey Mouse cups in Asia, they are followed as closely as the Premier League. We don't have to sell more shirts that Man U or Chelsea in India but anything over 0.1% of the population following us would do wonders.
1864roverite Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 JASON CUNDY is on a par with that other gobshyte adrian derham. he was a crap footballer and he is a crap radio presenter, I turn off when he is on the radio.
Amo Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 JASON CUNDY is on a par with that other gobshyte adrian derham. he was a crap footballer and he is a crap radio presenter, I turn off when he is on the radio. Surely Jason's surname is a typo?
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