[Archived] Rovers Might Have Been Sold?

[vizcaya]

Alhough he may have been misquoted, I do have a sneaky feeling that his PR team know what they're doing, and that this "name dropping" might have been intentional...

[alexanders]

It looks like the Rovers have made every mediahouse in the world about these news.

[den]

Even after last season you haven't realised that he has improved all aspects of his game in leaps and bounds and continues to do so. Players can and do continue to improve.

Did you read Fife's post about his trial at Luton Town?

Fife did well, but the coach told him that at the age of 23 he wouldn't improve much, so they couldn't offer him a contract.

The evidence is there MB. Once a player reaches 22/23 they are unlikely to develop much more. Lennon and SWP are similar players in that they have good close control and good pace, but they have always lacked that final pass and probably always will. It was evident from both of them in the World Cup and has been right throughout their international career. That's all that has stopped them becoming England regulars - don't you think?

[Brfcrule1]

Paul you have to understand business has to follow procedure the fact the team has signed the Mou and due dilligence is going on means several things have to have taken place. The buyer has submiteed a bid & the Trustees have accepted that bid & before any due dilegence can take place the buyer has to prove beyond any doubt he has the dosh to sustain the club over a period of time. By proving his worth e.g. how much funds he will pledge to the cause also due to the fact the construction company McCabe who Syed has given funds to has said this guy is very professional suggests to me he is the real deal. Philip also the 2 situations about other clubs in debt and us is totally different Man U/L'pool have always cut corners and the fact due diligence took 2 seconds tells me it was done very hastily and not done correctly. Philip you say Anyway Hughesy, you have got a load of ideas about how Syed can make money at Rovers- why haven't the Glazers done them already?. Why the Glazers have not done that already is basically because they are poor business men. The fact when Utd was sold they did not do their homework on the Glazers is their own fault because if they did they would not be in this mess as all their businesses in the US are making spectacular losses hence the fact of their 22 shopping centres in the US 18 of them are on a watch list as the 18 shopping centres have been re-mortgaged & still losing money & transferring money from Utd's money to bail out their failing businesses shows the depth of their problems. I would not be surprised if later in the future they try to re-mortgage the ground or increase ticket prices even higher to ridiculous lengths. Whereas Syed has proved beyond any doubt the money he has is all his hence it going on for a while.

[den]

Bill Shankley's methods and practices have absolutely no relevance to the modern day Premier League.

Errr ..... Bill Shankley didn't know anything about putting a football team together?

[BuckyRover]

He's past it as a footballer Hughesy. Didn't you watch any of his last England games?

Shankley would never have signed fading film stars.

It should also be remembered that in the past, George Best was regarded as one of the best players in the world even though he was a chain smoking, alcoholic.

Methods change along with the times.

[LeChuck]

Errr ..... Bill Shankley didn't know anything about putting a football team together?

That's not what the post said, or even implied.

[MeanGreenMachine]

Did you read Fife's post about his trial at Luton Town?

Fife did well, but the coach told him that at the age of 23 he wouldn't improve much, so they couldn't offer him a contract.

The evidence is there MB. Once a player reaches 22/23 they are unlikely to develop much more. Lennon and SWP are similar players in that they have good close control and good pace, but they have always lacked that final pass and probably always will. It was evident from both of them in the World Cup and has been right throughout their international career. That's all that has stopped them becoming England regulars - don't you think?

Didier Drogba, and im sure there are plenty more examples of guys not hitting their potential till their mid to late 20's.

[den]

That's not what the post said, or even implied.

Apologies for straying off topic everyone, but we are talking about whether Shankley would have signed a player, past his best and who carried a media side show everywhere he went. The reply to that from Iceman2England was that everything that Shankley did then, is irrelevant now. Well - why? Please explain. We're not talking about how tactics, or training methods have moved on, we're talking about having the knowledge of which are the right players to buy and which are the wrong players.

[LeChuck]

He managed in a totally different era, where money wasn't as dominant and players didn't have levels up super-stardom like they have now. I don't want to expand on that because I don't know how to write it without being patronising, I'm sure you know the differences better than I do.

Basically, all you're saying is that because you think Shankly wouldn't sign Beckham, we shouldn't either. It doesn't make any sense.

[TugaysMarlboro]

I heard Burnley are after Beckham, they want to improve the squads IQ.

[den]

Basically, all you're saying is that because you think Shankly wouldn't sign Beckham, we shouldn't either. It doesn't make any sense.

I'm saying that if we signed Beckham it would for the wrong reasons. We would be signing him primarily for non footballing reasons and IMO, we would be better to leave all that alone and just get on with assembling as good a squad as possible.

[BuckyRover]

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[BuckyRover]

But wouldn't increasing our profile and revenue make it easier to improve the squad?

Yes

[Silencio]

Beckham is well past it and I would stay clear of him...

[den]

Didier Drogba, and im sure there are plenty more examples of guys not hitting their potential till their mid to late 20's.

There were reasons other than football that meant Drogba only came through later.

From Wiki:

Former Le Mans coach Marc Westerloppe later remarked that "it took Didier four years to be capable of training every day and playing every week". Furthermore, Drogba's complicated family life meant that he had never attended a football academy and only began daily football training as a fully grown adult.

[Hughesy]

I'm saying that if we signed Beckham it would for the wrong reasons. We would be signing him primarily for non footballing reasons and IMO, we would be better to leave all that alone and just get on with assembling as good a squad as possible.

Centre midfield needs improving, right wing needs improving, strikers need improving...he is better than ANYTHING we currently have & im sure his set piece delivery & free-kicks would be perfect for us & help us for the next 18 months - 2 years.

ASWELL he brings the global marketting which we NEED to progress that area.

[Blueandwhitemike]

Den, why did Clough sign Dave McKay?

Also Lennon has played well in the premier league, maybe he has quite a few faults, but also he has a lot of strengths. Not much cop for England but who is?

[Manchester Blue]

Did you read Fife's post about his trial at Luton Town?

Fife did well, but the coach told him that at the age of 23 he wouldn't improve much, so they couldn't offer him a contract.

The evidence is there MB. Once a player reaches 22/23 they are unlikely to develop much more. Lennon and SWP are similar players in that they have good close control and good pace, but they have always lacked that final pass and probably always will. It was evident from both of them in the World Cup and has been right throughout their international career. That's all that has stopped them becoming England regulars - don't you think?

No offence intended but i'd say that says more about you and unfortunately a common attitude in British football that pigeonholes players as being too small, too short, too slow etc etc. At the time you wrote Lennon off we were being linked with him for a couple of million, he'd cost more than 5 times that at present so clearly he has improved a massive amount. I just think it's far too easy to write players off saying if he was any good then someone else would have picked him up sooner. Players like Ian Wright as one example would never have made it if everyone shared that view.

[Majiball]

Stuart Pearce.

Ian Wright.

Guy Whittingham.

Peter Beardsley.

[DannyKeg]

All this discussion about Beckham is entertaining and it would be fun to see him wearing the Blue and White Halves.

However, doesn't anyone imagine that Mrs. Beckham might have something to say about him playing for Rovers ?

[T4E]

I'm saying that if we signed Beckham it would for the wrong reasons. We would be signing him primarily for non footballing reasons and IMO, we would be better to leave all that alone and just get on with assembling as good a squad as possible.

This is the point - the wrong reasons in Shankly's era don't translate to being the wrong reasons now. These days you have to think about marketability, shirt sales, publicity etc etc. The game is money driven, we can either embrace and work with it, or cling to the past and get left behind.

If you say so.

Ooh, you got me.

[DP]

I still like your Shankley reference Den. It was a valid point.

Beckham would no doubt give us loads of publicity, but he would be on more than Yaya Toure and what sort of example would that send to would be signings. He's also recovering from a serious injury. One of the only ones he's had, and at 35 no one can say how well he might recover.

Forget Lennon too. I'd rather have Bentley back.

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People are forgetting the most important aspect of what the Beckham signing would bring;

It would p*ss everyone else off a LOT.

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People are forgetting the most important aspect of what the Beckham signing would bring;

It would p*ss everyone else off a LOT.

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