[Archived] Rovers Might Have Been Sold?

[thenodrog]

Do you seriously think that a prospective purchaser considers it crucial that the 1% of Rovers fans who regularly contribute on here are 'onside' with them?

Just kidding....... Yes, most definitely if it's allied with a facebook petition.

Seriously..... Also yes. I think you are underestimating the ability of a few to spread the word. There's a big match tomorrow and you can bet this will be the topic on a lot of lips both pre and post match. If the gossip is favourable from err 'reliable' sources that will carry through in subsequent conversations. Like ripples in a pond EiT.

Also we know from experience that journo's and reporters etc visit this site even though it's prob only to check on what Nicko's up to.

I think that this is all an elaborate plan to make us be nice to ginger people.

If it's PR spin then it's worked. I suspect that if I see a tall ginger chap in the Fox before the game on Sunday I'll offer to buy him a pint!

More chance of finding one in't Woodi's after.

[Paul]

Miles below your usual standards.

On reflection you and 47er are right. Apologies, I could have made the point in other ways.

[Antgrad]

I emailed the address Isaac gave us last night and have just received a reply from Dan.

I've every reason to believe it is him and can assure you that he is not looking to get involved again. He understands that he could never be the next Jack and he certainly doesn't want to be the next Mike Ashley.

[Bobby G]

I have also received a response from him today.

[nicko]

Just a couple of points for the usual consipracy theory bores...

1 - the news about new interest in the club was started by the Blackburn Ender chap.

2 - I knew about an Arab who was approached and did the story.

3 - the Marple Leaf guy mentioned the price that I was keeping up my sleeve. He was also aware of an interested group. There seem to have been three recently...maybe there is now a fourth.

But don't let those facts trouble you.

This latest development is odd to say the least. Somebody is clearly playing games.

The background stuff about the Dan Williams affair is as accurate as I have seen and is obviously from someone involved at the time.

If I was in that mob I would be slightly relieved that I didn't overpay for Rovers at the time.

Whether Dan Williams or Plainfield can come up with £25 million and cover the debts PLUS find cash for improvement NOW is another story.

Oh, and 4 - there is no way rivercider is a better writer than me.

[Bobby G]

nicko, which development are you referring to exactly and what games? (is the on-goings on this messageboard?)

[nicko]

nicko, which development are you referring to exactly and what games? (is the on-goings on this messageboard?)

I find it odd that somebody from the Dan Williams-Plainfield group should just wander in and explain all of the details of three years ago. The stuff is revealed as I heard it and paints most of the picture.

It's interesting, but strange timing.

The 'game' is yet to be revealed, but it sounds to me like somebody from that group is taking an interest in the club again.

However, like I said before...talk is cheap.

[Gav]

This thread is bizarre to say the least.

I don't want to get into the ins and outs of what going on, but a Dan Williams is certainly the sort of guy we need to take charge of the club.

He's obviously a fan and that ticks all the boxes for me.

[Tom]

Ah well at least it something to specualte about in between frustrating transfer windows.

[koi]

This thread is bizarre to say the least.

I don't want to get into the ins and outs of what going on, but a Dan Williams is certainly the sort of guy we need to take charge of the club.

He's obviously a fan and that ticks all the boxes for me.

Apart from one box; Cash??

[jim mk2]

Oh, and 4 - there is no way rivercider is a better writer than me.

Good sub-editors can work wonders but nice riposte to the silly jibe from a predictable source. Like many people, rivercider does not use one word when five will do.

Our new US correspondent should be thanked for posting these "revelations" but they happened three years ago and have little bearing on the club's current predicament. There is little doubt that if D Williams had bought the club in 2007 for the sums mentioned he (and Rovers) would be in serious financial difficulties now.

[broadsword]

Just cannot understand the mans motive for posting what he has.

To put the record straight and stop the incessant BS from people who aren't privvy to what actually happened? (I include myself amongst the BS-er's, and it should also be noted that the story isn't live at the moment.)

[BPF]

Has Rivercider been on this weekend?

Maybe Mr Williams' PR Man doesn't work weekends?

Good old conspiracy theories!

[LeChuck]

This thread is bizarre to say the least.

I don't want to get into the ins and outs of what going on, but a Dan Williams is certainly the sort of guy we need to take charge of the club.

He's obviously a fan and that ticks all the boxes for me.

So 'all the boxes' is really just one box? I'm a Rovers fan but I can assure you that you wouldn't want me running the club.

A Rovers fan would be preferable because it would ease fears of them abusing the club (like has happened Portsmouth), but to be honest it's quite a way down the list of important things to consider with potential new owners.

[nicko]

Has Rivercider been on this weekend?

Maybe Mr Williams' PR Man doesn't work weekends?

Good old conspiracy theories!

I notice the guy joined in February 2009 and said he was 'from Philli.'

He did enjoy Stroke Boy gags.

So maybe he is ok after all.

[BPF]

I notice the guy joined in February 2009 and said he was 'from Philli.'

He did enjoy Stroke Boy gags.

So maybe he is ok after all.

Is there no chance that he is actually Dan Williams, posing as one of his employees?

[CrazyIvan]

I wish some people would learn to keep their mouths shut and stop spouting rumours without sources, you know who you are...

This story, while very interesting AND validated by Nicko, does not mean anything now in terms of a potential takeover. It's worth hearing and reading though, for more than one reason and a lesson for us fans to keep faith in our club management to get it right. It has also shown some up on here to be a trustworthy as the wind.

Thanks rivercider, it's eye-opening.

[BPF]

I notice the guy joined in February 2009 and said he was 'from Philli.'

He did enjoy Stroke Boy gags.

So maybe he is ok after all.

Scratch that, he's online and reading this forum right now

[Gav]

A Rovers fan would be preferable because it would ease fears of them abusing the club (like has happened Portsmouth), but to be honest it's quite a way down the list of important things to consider with potential new owners.

Try asking Pompey fans if its 'quite a way down the list'

[super_arran]

I find it odd that somebody from the Dan Williams-Plainfield group should just wander in and explain all of the details of three years ago. The stuff is revealed as I heard it and paints most of the picture.

It's interesting, but strange timing.

The 'game' is yet to be revealed, but it sounds to me like somebody from that group is taking an interest in the club again.

However, like I said before...talk is cheap.

forgive me for being a bit thick but is that a suggestion that someone from the group is explaining what went on previous as to clean up any misconceptions people may have.

So if a fresh bid is ever placed there will be no misunderstandings as to what went on last time and will paint the group in a very favourable picture?

[47er]

Just cannot understand the mans motive for posting what he has. I looked back on this thread and noticed that rivercider had replied to my post. This was about a link that philip posted about the LET article about Dan Williams. I commented that the article mentioned that there were other parties also interested in buying Rovers - I asked if it was known who these other were. Then we have rivercider who replied (the rest is hsitory)

Even if Nicko has confirmed the gentlemans story, can the gentleman be trusted. As soon as the NDA is over with, he reveals what he has done. The question I ask is Why? Is there another agenda here? what is it? Or am I the only one who is sceptical?

You'd always have to be suspicious about anything on the Internet but I don't go in for conspiracy theories much. Either the guy is legit or its a practical joke would be my theory. It would an extraordinarily good one though given the detail of info which Nicko has confirmed. Hang on--perhaps Nicko is in on it too! For the record I've got a reply back from "Dan Williams" saying he's been inundated with Rovers fans emails and he's spent 2 hours replying but will get back to me on Monday. How do I know whether its him or not? I don't but if I don't venture in I'll never find out and if I can do this tiny thing and somehow it helps Rovers well it will have been worth the risk.

If he asks me for any credit card details though that would definitely get the alarm bells ringing!

Exactly. Wish I'd used that description Balwer!

btw ... just one point you agree with?

I suppose a tick from teecher is too much to ask gumboots?

More likely a detention with that spelling!

[ScottishRover]

If it is Dan Williams and he is taking time out in his day to reply to us rovers fans, you got to ask yourself why.

Must be some motive to it other than to clear up past events

[PAFELL]

If it is Dan Williams and he is taking time out in his day to reply to us rovers fans, you got to ask yourself why.

Must be some motive to it other than to clear up past events

A good hoaxer / con artist investigates and learns the required imformation before doing anything - they do their homework. Very easy to set up an email address using any name. The information written, which, people have said, Nicko confirms, could just be from somebody sacked by Dan Williams etc who maybe was around at the time and has an axe to grind. Could even be a driver who over heard various conversations whilst certain people were in the car.

Unless I am mistaken nothing has been posted that could not of been discovered by somebody cetermined to find the information - especially if they worked for various people involved at the time - not high level person.

I find it hard to believe a person extremely close and involved in the situation 3 years ago would break their silence. If they did I would consider such a person untrustworthy and unemployable in the business world. Would you trust a person like that to own Rovers? I wouldn't as I could not trust them.

I am wondering what would prove if recent posts were true / genuine or not - the only thing I could think of was for the same people to put in a new bid for Rovers. This whole story could just be an clever scam - even by a dingle with a borrowed brain - to wind us all up. The dingle v rovers is only a few weeks away - timing on here has been mentioned - clever way to wind Rovers fans up.

Yes I am a sceptic at the moment - somebody has information about a situation 3 years ago - how is a different matter. According to them protected by NDA, but instantly shares it the first opportunity they can.

Nothing by rivercider helps the current situation with regards to Rovers who need new investment / takeover. therefore I suggest we all look at it as a clever, devious scam until we learn different.

I would like to believe that rivercider is genuine and also people have been emailing etc with the Dan Williams of 3 years ago. I would also like to believe - as much as I would be gutted - that Rovers did miss out on a glorious opportunity 3 years ago.

But for the time being I cannot - but would be willing to be wrong.

[Fylde Coast Fan]

I believe rivercider. Everything he's said has checked out with what nicko knows and from the plans he outlined it sounds like we missed out on some sound investment with solid business minds who could have taken the club forward. We're never going to get an Abramovitch, let's be realistic here, but there are plenty of clubs who've had the right kind of investment - Sunderland and Villa spring to mind.

As far as the current position goes, all we can do is hope that the first person to meet the Trust's asking price is in the mould of the Dan Williams described over the last few pages, and not a fly-by-night cowboy with no idea what to do with a football club of minimal assets and with little prospect to improve on footballing revenues.

[Bobby G]

Yes a disgruntled former employee or driver has decided its good to play a devious little hoax on a certain former boss in a movie directed by Luc Besson, hitting cinemas in the next few months! Some people will create any "logic" rather than what is the OBVIOUS.