[Archived] Rovers Might Have Been Sold?

[trueblue]

Give me a break man...you lot come on here with heresay etc, never put your balls on the line by naming anyone......come on boys(Kamy and 1864) Kamy, you seems to be cooling now on this Syed chap who you had a hotline to last week...let's hear about this new contender....

They aren't going to say anything until the facts are there! why can't you accept that and wait like the rest of us.

[1864roverite]

SM

if you read back a few posts you will see that kamy will name them once he can confirm the identity. he is doing his digging and homework before announcing it.

I dont think kamy needs to name his source he is speaking directly to them if you read it properly. As for me, well like I said I wont name the source but again if you read back you will take note from what area the information has come from. its not heresay (bad band btw)nor is it speculation. Its because its corroborated from 2 sources that we believe the information to be correct.

You may choose to ignore it if you want or you may do your own digging and try and find information that would also be corroborative.

as a Rovers fan you have to look at it from a different perspective, we are all begging the question why, it seems unreal that at least 4 lots of would be owners like the look of Rovers. ask youself this - what is it Rovers have going for them and what is the attraction?

We are a business model the big clubs would aspire to, the not so big would like to be and the little clubs strive to be. We really are the most successful little outfit in English football. Our business model is down to Jack, his trust and John Williams. The manner in which our club is run, the professionalism, the standards and indeed everything about it stands out.

look out of the box and think laterally, BRFC is one attractive business and people, successful people at that, WANT IT.

That my mate, tells a story

[Sparky Marky]

I don't disagree with that mate...Its the way people on here try and separate themselves from everyone else by claiming they have some inside knowledge, yet never seem to actually demonstrate that they talk the truth...It's all pie in the sky and richard branson is buying us now.

[Mattyblue]

Cryer article

Nice little piece this from Andy Cryer- it echoes 1864's recent post.

Lets hope the stellar job of JW and others pays off- because it is certainly deserved.

[brian_gallagher85]

True but what I was referring to was a Man city spending spree (Being the 4th richest person in the world) rather than a Syed plan..

I know you were, but it would be much more difficult to carry out such a spending spree when you are struggling for survival in the Championship compared to having just finished mid table in the Premier League.

[John]

Should be interesting to hear what Goldberg has to say.....

Adrian Goldberg unveils new revelations concerning the Blackburn Rovers takeover bid.

[magicalmortensleftpeg]

SM

if you read back a few posts you will see that kamy will name them once he can confirm the identity. he is doing his digging and homework before announcing it.

I dont think kamy needs to name his source he is speaking directly to them if you read it properly. As for me, well like I said I wont name the source but again if you read back you will take note from what area the information has come from. its not heresay (bad band btw)nor is it speculation. Its because its corroborated from 2 sources that we believe the information to be correct.

You may choose to ignore it if you want or you may do your own digging and try and find information that would also be corroborative.

as a Rovers fan you have to look at it from a different perspective, we are all begging the question why, it seems unreal that at least 4 lots of would be owners like the look of Rovers. ask youself this - what is it Rovers have going for them and what is the attraction?

We are a business model the big clubs would aspire to, the not so big would like to be and the little clubs strive to be. We really are the most successful little outfit in English football. Our business model is down to Jack, his trust and John Williams. The manner in which our club is run, the professionalism, the standards and indeed everything about it stands out.

look out of the box and think laterally, BRFC is one attractive business and people, successful people at that, WANT IT.

That my mate, tells a story

Could you please post this on the transfer talk/john williams thread. I feel that a lot of people fail to understand the latter part of your post and would rather see us p*** any money we get from a transfer fee on a direct replacement asap, without any consideration of the financial state of the club.

[Ricky]

Looking forward to finding out more about the new proposed buyers. But until we find out more I'm going to go out have a couple of beers and a damn good curry. Tata for now.

[1864roverite]

Very nice Ricky, I ordered mine about 15 minutes ago and its due to be delivered in 10 minutes.

Looking at the link Ag suggests he might be looking at Mr Ali's basis of wealth accrued rather than any shady business dealings.

I dont seem to be able to find anything on him via google, he isnt wanted by Interpol, he doesnt appear on the MI5 most wanted pages, he isnt wanted by the Chinese Secret Police nor does the ayatollah have a fatwa out on him

it all appears, as many suggest, a besmirching exercise.

[67splitscreen]

Should be interesting to hear what Goldberg has to say.....

Adrian Goldberg unveils new revelations concerning the Blackburn Rovers takeover bid.

Where does it state "new revelations"

"Following the exclusive revelations uncovered by 5 live Investigates earlier this week, Adrian Goldberg continues with his report on the proposed Blackburn Rovers takeover bid."

Sounds to me like they have little more to offer on the Bahrain end of things and like many on here have questioned, filling in the gaps on how he has acquired his wealth.

[John]

Here - http://www.bbc.co.uk/5live/programmes/schedules/2010/09/05

[67splitscreen]

Here - http://www.bbc.co.uk...ules/2010/09/05

Ah! a different link. fair enough, as others have said though, doubt it will generate a great deal of interest outside of Rovers supporters. Maybe a few dingles hoping for a loud bang.

[rebelmswar]

Ah! a different link. fair enough, as others have said though, doubt it will generate a great deal of interest outside of Rovers supporters. Maybe a few dingles hoping for a loud bang.

Perhaps the revelation is that his middle name is Rhamapatalon or something similarly insidious.

[Guest Kamy100]

I have passed on what I have heard to Nicko, remember it was his story in the first place (revealing a new bidder last Sunday). Hopefully he can do some digging and then run a story on it.

I am afraid this is where I am going to bail out on all of this, the last few weeks have been great, talking to people in the background etc and learning about what is happening and of course putting what I have learnt on here. However, now the day job has come calling and have been told that I am going to be out of the country for a few weeks.

Rest assured though, things are moving a pace in the background, the next week is going to be decisive. Mr Ali remains in pole position, he has until a week on Monday to get this sorted out (and is confident of doing this). If the new bidders are who I have heard about then it is going to cause Syed problems but then again the trust may decide that Syed's model is actually the one that best fits Rovers.

It is a exciting time to be a Rovers fan, we should never every forget what Uncle Jack did for the club, he will always be Rovers greatest ever fan, no matter what ever happens in the future, we would not be in where we are had it not been for Jack. So as Jack's chapter closes at the club a new one opens.

[Paul]

The reality is this. this major headline exclusive is going out on air on a radio show that starts at 9pm on a Sunday evening, its not prime time and I doubt its audience are nothing more than truck drivers, tv-less elderly listeners and I doubt it has an audience that will number over 100000 listeners. That to me seems to put this story into context.

Going back to 5 live and the exclusive report, any snitch worth his salt would ensure they got the maximum payout for the story. if it was me, the club, WGA and every media source known to man to get the best deal. yet here we are, the massive news being reported in a late night radio show, sort of puts it into perspective.

Clearly none of us know what the programme will contain but I think it's worth mentioning the BBC regularly broadcast this type of investigative programme at 8.00 / 9.00pm. Granted it is usually Radio 4 but this is a new departure for FiveLive, I believe, so that it is broadcast on a Sunday evening is hardly surprising. A new series with a new (to the BBC) presenter was never going to knock 606 of it's spot. I don't feel the timing of the broadcast can be used to give or take credence from the story.

[rebelmswar]

I have passed on what I have heard to Nicko, remember it was his story in the first place (revealing a new bidder last Sunday). Hopefully he can do some digging and then run a story on it.

I am afraid this is where I am going to bail out on all of this, the last few weeks have been great, talking to people in the background etc and learning about what is happening and of course putting what I have learnt on here. However, now the day job has come calling and have been told that I am going to be out of the country for a few weeks.

Rest assured though, things are moving a pace in the background, the next week is going to be decisive. Mr Ali remains in pole position, he has until a week on Monday to get this sorted out (and is confident of doing this). If the new bidders are who I have heard about then it is going to cause Syed problems but then again the trust may decide that Syed's model is actually the one that best fits Rovers.

It is a exciting time to be a Rovers fan, we should never every forget what Uncle Jack did for the club, he will always be Rovers greatest ever fan, no matter what ever happens in the future, we would not be in where we are had it not been for Jack. So as Jack's chapter closes at the club a new one opens.

Good work Kamy, you are a positive to this message board. You news in regards to this takeover have been very much appreciated by this member.

[Paul]

I wonder why they're picking on little old Blackburn Rovers and giving us top billing?

Not sure the Beeb are picking on us, it just feels that way to people because this is all happening at a very sensitive time. I've listened to a number of radio programmes, on both 4 and 5, which have been highly critical of PL ownership in general, tax issues / avoidance in Championship clubs, Portsmouth, the Glazers, etc. We are noticing this because it's topical and highly relevant to our club and people presumably feel either nervous or threatened.

Personally I'm not worried because the BBC either have something which should be in the public domain or Syed will go ahead with his purchase. It seems to me Rovers win either way?

[Tarka]

Looking forward to finding out more about the new proposed buyers. But until we find out more I'm going to go out have a couple of beers and a damn good curry. Tata for now.

Pun intended there Ricky?

Fingers crossed for the future.

[den]

Personally I'm not worried because the BBC either have something which should be in the public domain or Syed will go ahead with his purchase. It seems to me Rovers win either way?

Absolutely right Paul. If it turns out to be a deal breaker, then there will be a lot of disappointed people on here - me included. The BBC wont kill any deal though, it's the trustees that will do that.

[rovers_rob]

I have passed on what I have heard to Nicko, remember it was his story in the first place (revealing a new bidder last Sunday). Hopefully he can do some digging and then run a story on it.

I am afraid this is where I am going to bail out on all of this, the last few weeks have been great, talking to people in the background etc and learning about what is happening and of course putting what I have learnt on here. However, now the day job has come calling and have been told that I am going to be out of the country for a few weeks.

Rest assured though, things are moving a pace in the background, the next week is going to be decisive. Mr Ali remains in pole position, he has until a week on Monday to get this sorted out (and is confident of doing this). If the new bidders are who I have heard about then it is going to cause Syed problems but then again the trust may decide that Syed's model is actually the one that best fits Rovers.

It is a exciting time to be a Rovers fan, we should never every forget what Uncle Jack did for the club, he will always be Rovers greatest ever fan, no matter what ever happens in the future, we would not be in where we are had it not been for Jack. So as Jack's chapter closes at the club a new one opens.

Thanks for all the information over the last few weeks.

It is hard to understand sometimes what the hell is going on with the takeover but you explain everything really clearly and you have a balanced opinion.

Thanks.

[Tim Southampton Rover]

Thanks Kamy, you've been brilliant and we all appreciate what you've done.

[1864roverite]

Dont get wrong Paul, I dont doubt the voracity of the programme. What I meant is if it such huge news the tabloids would have been all over it. Even the club would know about it and at some point, if it was derogatory/invasive/conclusive and destructive, it would have been leaked out to all and sundry. My point is, is that it clearly hasnt reached media circles which suggests to me that it isnt damaging, it isnt something to scupper the deal and it isnt something that will expose Mr Ali and WGA as warmongering despots who have earned their money out of death,destruction, drugs or despair.

Thanks kamy for your exchanges, enjoy your day job.

[chaddyrovers]

Dont get wrong Paul, I dont doubt the voracity of the programme. What I meant is if it such huge news the tabloids would have been all over it. Even the club would know about it and at some point, if it was derogatory/invasive/conclusive and destructive, it would have been leaked out to all and sundry. My point is, is that it clearly hasnt reached media circles which suggests to me that it isnt damaging, it isnt something to scupper the deal and it isnt something that will expose Mr Ali and WGA as warmongering despots who have earned their money out of death,destruction, drugs or despair.

Thanks kamy for your exchanges, enjoy your day job.

I agree. Rovers or Rothchilds would have leak something at least to the local paper. Also Mr Ali must have prove his self to the rovers board,trustees and rothchilds that he's got the money and what he would invest in rovers. Also They would have look into his background and how he's made his money very throughly. Rovers are not just going to let anybody buy the club. they have to be right for the club and invest in the club long term. I trust John Williams and the rovers trustees to find and sell to the right person.

Also just found this on the web about WGA moving it's offices in Bahrain

http://www.zawya.com/Story.cfm/sidZAWYA20100816083411/Western%20Gulf%20advisory%20relocated%20to%20Bahrain%20Financial%20Harbour

[nicko]

There won't be anything in the Sunday People because the pieces of the jigsaw are not together yet...

But as Kamy has stated there is at least one serious rival to Syed as we speak.

The group I mentioned last weekend are still very much in there and do appear to come from India.

This is all rather odd and smacks a bit of rivalry among Indian business folk. First we had Shah, then we had Syed, now the new people.

Why the competition? Not sure. Possibly jealousy, but that is no bad thing in these circles.

The fact remains that the club/Trustees/Rothschilds are willing to have a chat with someone while the Syed move is at the due diligence stage.

It was heresy to suggest as much two or three weeks ago, but now it looks like a bit of competition would be healthy.

No idea what the BBC have - or why - but it is daft to criticise someone who is asking serious questions. I am sure the chap has no agenda.

However there is no doubt that a PR war is going on around this. Still, Syed lived by that sword when he leaked his interest and started to talk of big figures and big names.

The latest bidders may/may not be more wealthy and have better football ideas. Nobody knows and - for now - there is time to go about this slowly and sensibly.

The attempt to rush through a takeover with the proise of riches that Syed's people claimed last month never sat well with me...and I believe that many at the club were suspicious of this too.

This is way too serious a decision to be hurried into.

[Doaksie]

The fact remains that the club/Trustees/Rothschilds are willing to have a chat with someone while the Syed move is at the due diligence stage.

I see this revelation as very important too. I realise it is good business acumen to keep all available options open, after all, at this stage, we owe Syed nothing.

However I just can't help but feel that why else would Rovers officials hold talks with another interested party in London, if there didn't remain some element of doubt about Syed's bid (who nears the completion of DD I might add), no matter how small.