[Archived] Rovers Might Have Been Sold?

[tony gale's mic]

I think it's very worrying that Blackburn Rovers are attracting these mystery bidders with apparent huge levels of wealth but zero backstory. We may not have heard about the likes of Abramovich before they took control but a simple google search at the time would have yielded quite a bit of information about them, no matter how private they were.

[ewoodpo]

  On 05/09/2010 at 11:48, otto man said:

Do I? Just because I don't have knee jerk reactions to everything I read

Ottoman no offence buddy just answer one question even people in his home town don't know who he is why it that?

Also, you may or may not remember Michael Knighton they even let him on the Old Trafford pitch for a kick around.

[BuckyRover]

Good work 67. I was going to reply to TGM saying that it's not over until it's over. A simple statement from Mr Ali could change everything again. There is nothing strange about starting companies up if you are already rich. He was probably trying different ideas out before finding the best solution. WGA is a product of his past experiences.

Or it's all a giant ponzi scheme and he is continuously robbing Peter to pay Paul.

We will see (hopefully soon).

[tonyoz]

  On 05/09/2010 at 11:49, 67splitscreen said:

Anyone else noticed that the mail in the picture is not addressed to Mr Ashan Ali Syed, (at least from what I can make out when zoomed) in particular the ones staged for the photos, British gas and the brown envelope.

Can anyone else get it readable.

The gas bill looks as though it is addressed the the 'Occupier' and the Brown one does not seem to have the correct number of characters either for his name.

Another observation, to say Syed allegedly did a runner from the apartment, the letting agent certainly was on his tracks pretty sharpish, those flowers can't be more than a week or so old and no fallen petals on the table. Strange!

Why two empty drawer's on the table when there is no cupboard around, someone empty their contents on a table by any chance?.

What can it all mean Holmes?

[thenodrog]

  On 05/09/2010 at 00:44, deryck guyler said:

It was the "300m crap" that turned you right off the bloke?

ok

Yes. Are you ntelling me that you've swallowed the lot hook, line and sinker?

[S15]

  On 05/09/2010 at 11:54, BuckyRover said:

A simple statement from Mr Ali could change everything again.

It wasn't me.

[BuckyRover]

  On 05/09/2010 at 11:57, thenodrog said:

Yes. Are you ntelling me that you've swallowed the lot hook, line and sinker?

You are distrusting of all foreigners so your point is moot.

[tony gale's mic]

  On 05/09/2010 at 11:54, BuckyRover said:

Good work 67. I was going to reply to TGM saying that it's not over until it's over. A simple statement from Mr Ali could change everything again. There is nothing strange about starting companies up if you are already rich. He was probably trying different ideas out before finding the best solution. WGA is a product of his past experiences.

Or it's all a giant ponzi scheme and he is continuously robbing Peter to pay Paul.

We will see (hopefully soon).

Why would a statement change everything? Anyone can come up with excuses and stories, hell we're not even him and we can come up with possible plausible explanations for each of the things involved.

But there's far, far too many questions. Most of the questions, the important ones, were there for me even before this big BBC investigation.

[T4E]

  On 05/09/2010 at 11:59, shillito15 said:

It wasn't me.

:lol:

[otto man]

  On 05/09/2010 at 11:53, ewoodpo said:

Ottoman no offence buddy just answer one question even people in his home town don't know who he is why it that?

Also, you may or may not remember Michael Knighton they even let him on the Old Trafford pitch for a kick around.

None taken dude. Please go back and re read BFP's post and you'll see why I agreed with what he wrote. He was telling people not to overreact to a single article. For myself I think we should let The Trust and Rothschilds do their job and have faith that they get it right, after all, there's nothing we can do to influence this process whatever your stance on being taken over.

[47er]

  On 05/09/2010 at 11:57, thenodrog said:

Yes. Are you ntelling me that you've swallowed the lot hook, line and sinker?

So if he'd said he didn't have much money you'd have supported his bid? The less money he said he had had the more you'd have supported him?

You know no more nor less than anyone else. And you may be wrong.

[67splitscreen]

  On 05/09/2010 at 11:54, tonyoz said:

What can it all mean Holmes?

Things are not always as we perceive, maybe!

Can't see the wood for the trees.

Look and you find/see

Being a landlord for some considerable times and managed them personally, I have seen all sorts of terminations.

I have never yet come across opened mail with bank headings (HSBC) on them, sealed yes but not opened, they may well have been opened later by someone needing to know some facts.

  On 05/09/2010 at 12:04, tony gale said:

Why would a statement change everything? Anyone can come up with excuses and stories, hell we're not even him and we can come up with possible plausible explanations for each of the things involved.

But there's far, far too many questions. Most of the questions, the important ones, were there for me even before this big BBC investigation.

The excuse we come up with are not going to be validated though, are they?.

[thenodrog]

  On 05/09/2010 at 10:11, nicko said:

Fascinating stuff...almost as fascinating as watching some of the Syed Cheerleaders getting their pom-poms in a twist in record time.

No more info on the rival bidder, but I bet he/she/they are laughing themselves silly today.

Wish I'd written that.

[tony gale's mic]

  On 05/09/2010 at 12:28, 67splitscreen said:

Things are not always as we perceive, maybe!

Can't see the wood for the trees.

Look and you find/see

Being a landlord for some considerable times and managed them personally, I have seen all sorts of terminations.

I have never yet come across opened mail with bank headings (HSBC) on them, sealed yes but not opened, they may well have been opened later by someone needing to know some facts.

The excuse we come up with are not going to be validated though, are they?.

Very little of what he's told us so far has been validated. His wealth, his business activity, his claims of being part of a highly successful Hyderabad family.

I very much doubt this will be different.

[1864roverite]

I am a little surprised his alleged qualifications and certificates havent been checked out, they appear on his cv page. if it was me doing some sort of investigation that is one of the first things I would have checked out.

Secondly, has anyone got the name of the Canadian company mentioned ? Again that is a piece of information that is easily checked out.

Can any of our Australian members comment on the latest for Cubbie Station ? A few weeks ago it was suggested shareholder were voting on how to progress this project with 2 offers on the table, one from our potential suitor WGA.

The McCabe scenario is a third and important piece of information. I have just had a read through various media releases in the irish news, irish building papers etc and they are all conclusively agreed about the funding provided by WGA. the money has been promised and paid up front without any issue raising its head, in particular the news released today.

I just dont seem to be able to find a valied connection for the bbc's latest report, its validity or reasoning, I cant think how or why it will damage WGA or the bid for Rovers UNLESS Mr Ali has upstaged Michael Knighton's on the pitch antics when he had or thought he had got his hands on man united. Even if he has done it for publicity, I cannot fathom why he hasnt used the most obvious club on offer instead of Rovers. IF he had or has an alterior motive then to graps the biggest amount of attention then surely he should have targetted LIVERPOOL and not BRFC.

[thenodrog]

  On 05/09/2010 at 11:34, tony gale said:

I was initially a bit giddy at the prospect of this takeover and very much taken in by his statements, but since then I've had more questions than anything and this report confirms my suspicions.

- Apparently his family have been big names in Hyderabad for the last 150 years. No one in Hyderabad knows who the hell they are.

- Not on any rich lists despite reportedly being worth up to £8 billion. Not even a wikipedia page, barely anything on google. I'm sorry but you don't earn that much money and not become well known at least within the business world at least. Barely anything is searchable about Western Gulf Advisory from before August - the only report I can find is of them opening offices in Kuala Lumpur two years ago.

- Reports always say he's got other business deals going but it's the same two that are always mentioned - the one in Canada with the Irish guy and the one in Australia. Surely someone worth that much will have many more interests and purchases?

People have been assuming he's worth billions but for some time now I've been wondering if he actually is.

That's even before we get to the business about the BBC investigation.

Even if by some small chance he is worth this much money, why did he live in a tiny flat and owe so much money? Surely he wouldve got a nice flat somewhere like Kensington and paid his rent on time, or at least when he left?

There are far too many questions here and far too many things for him to explain. He's a busted flush IMO.

Hey up.....Has the wind changed?

[tony gale's mic]

  On 05/09/2010 at 12:37, thenodrog said:

Hey up.....Has the wind changed?

I refer you to Bucky's post at the top of this page.

[thenodrog]

  On 05/09/2010 at 12:24, 47er said:

So if he'd said he didn't have much money you'd have supported his bid? The less money he said he had had the more you'd have supported him?

You know no more nor less than anyone else. And you may be wrong.

I might easily be wrong I really don't know but I am naturally cautious and don't go overboard as easily as some. Especially so when we are not privy to any facts but merely posting rubbish based on nothing more than speculation and conjecture.

This track by the excellent late Ian Dury sums up this thread nicely...... To whoever it may concern enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CY83bpdXusc&feature=related

[thenodrog]

  On 05/09/2010 at 12:02, BuckyRover said:

You are distrusting of all foreigners so your point is moot.

You are too kind........ I'm distrusting of anyone south of Darren and north of Wilpshire....... and most of them in between.

[rebelmswar]

I have known many sickeningly rich people in my time and most of them are strange. The pictures of his flat is not surprising, I knew one fellow who enjoyed the feel of peanut butter on his skin and another who was so obsessed about money that he stole the Financial Times so he didn’t have to pay. Some could basically not wipe their arses without assistance from two servants – one to cheer and one to wipe. Mess and eccentricity seem to go hand in hand with lots of money.

Anyway how old was he when he lived in that flat? 18-20 by the math. Who here, besides possibly Theno, can claim to be a saint and a neat freak at that age? I have seen 18 year olds incapable of using a washing machine never mind a hoover. As for debts in the U.K. I think I owe student loans myself, not that I am rich, but you forget about these things and flee the country, its natural.

No-one ever hearing of him in his home town is slightly worrying, but hardly a shooting offence. If I was a billionaire I wouldn’t go back to that lovely town.

Don’t know what to make of it – pish and wind, or a fart in a windstorm.

[67splitscreen]

  On 05/09/2010 at 12:32, tony gale said:

Very little of what he's told us so far has been validated. His wealth, his business activity, his claims of being part of a highly successful Hyderabad family.

I very much doubt this will be different.

I accept your point of view but maybe they have been validated to the people who matter at this stage.

All will be revealed. He either succeeds or fails, failure will confirm he was unsuitable.

[thenodrog]

  On 05/09/2010 at 13:05, rebelmswar said:

.... I knew one fellow who enjoyed the feel of peanut butter on his skin

maybe a little too much info there Reb....

[bluebruce]

  On 05/09/2010 at 12:37, thenodrog said:

Hey up.....Has the wind changed?

People are entitled to change their opinions, you know. I'm aware this is probably a foreign concept to you, so I doubt you trust it.

[rebelmswar]

  On 05/09/2010 at 13:21, thenodrog said:

maybe a little too much info there Reb....

Hey when you get a contract you get a contract, paid well for just sitting in a car and standing outside.

Glad it wasn’t crunchy peanut butter. *shudder*

[den]

  On 05/09/2010 at 12:49, thenodrog said:

I might easily be wrong I really don't know but I am naturally cautious and don't go overboard as easily as some. Especially so when we are not privy to any facts but merely posting rubbish based on nothing more than speculation and conjecture.

The way I see your position Theno, is that you are, and always have been against any kind of takeover, even though you never had any alternative. It hasn't been a case with you, of "let's see what happens" - that's not even your position now. You were against Syed's bid before any kind of allegations were aired. Am I wrong?

Personally, I wanted the trust and Rothschilds to look at this bid thoroughly and I hoped they would come to the conclusion that the guy is genuine and the takeover bid is being done with honesty and good faith.

But to come on here, as others have done and say that they always knew the bid was dodgy - after these latest allegations - is pretty poor form.

I'm happy to wait for a response from Syed or the trustees. If it doesn't happen with Syed, then we move forward looking for someone else. What's your position?