[Archived] Rovers Might Have Been Sold?

[rebelmswar]

You might call this a knee jerk reaction, for the sake of Blackburn Rovers I think it's time the trust moved on . No damage done it's been a case of nothing ventured nothing gained. When people have nothing to hide you don't sit quietly,you go out there and make plenty noise. Syed and co know they've been rumbled and are keeping very quiet.

I don’t think something can be classed as knee jerk when you have thought that all along Mr. Po.

I'm astounded that according to Den Goldberg now seemingly doesn't dispute that Mr. Syed has the money to complete the takeover - I thought that must have been the whole point and thrust of last night's programme.

Strange that isn't it?

[Gav]

thinks its about time rovers moved on to other intrested parties,this guy has con man written all over him

Whats it got to do with you, you’re not even a Rovers fan, hate the club, hate the manager, hate the fans, hate the new owner, hate the manager......

[BuckyRover]

The new Premier League fit and proper person test. They just ask waggy for his opinion then do the opposite.

[niggit]

What ever way you look at this, it's good news for BRFC. If he turns out to be dodgy, as BBC seem to want to portray. Then it will help the club in finding the truth and will probably not go through.

On the other hand, if he turns out to show the BBC up for what they are, then that is good for the club.

One way or another, i would think it would be sorted soon.

[ewoodpo]

I don’t think something can be classed as knee jerk when you have thought that all along Mr. Po.

Strange that isn't it?

True Reb,I have thought that all along and still do, tell you what plenty on here have now joined the I have my doubts club.

[MikeB]

The silence from all parties is deafening.

This suggests to me that we have seen a storm in a teacup and the Beeb 'issues' are either fallacious or chicken sh-t.

If this isn't the case, all hell would have broken out ny now.

[BuckyRover]

True Reb,I have thought that all along and still do, tell you what plenty on here have now joined the I have my doubts club.

Based on what has happened subsequently. Your view was not the correct view, because you have felt like this all along. Prejudiced in other words

[rebelmswar]

True Reb,I have thought that all along and still do, tell you what plenty on here have now joined the I have my doubts club.

Now that is kneejerk, you, on the other hand, are just standing fast to your opinion.

I have doubts but I am not ready yet to build a pyre. The longer it takes him to say anything the more knees there will be jerking - by the end of the day it may look like a 60's dancehall on here.

[Guest bluerovers]

Let's look at this from the opposite direction, why would a man who didn't have £60k to pay off some old debts put himself in the limelight and try to buy us? Is he bored, was this a joke that got out of hand? Of course that doesn't make sense.

Are Rovers a club a chancer could buy and somehow make an instant profit on before running? Nope. Would it be sensible for a 'con man' to expose himself in the most scrutnised business (football) in the World? Nope. Would is be sensible for a con man who (as 5live report) is unheard of to get his face in the papers, a wikipedia page and losing all anonymity he had by joing one of the most popular leagues on the planet? Nope, unlike in the BBC's Hustle, fame and being a succesful con man don't go and in hand...

So I can think we can write off the con man/chancer thing as it makes no sense whatsoever. He may, however be a bad businessman who intends to do well every project he starts but gives up easily leaving people behind which would be our major concern here. I'm sure Guydamak didn't intend to screw up Pompey when he bought it, he just ran it badly once he had. THAT should be our only concern here and that is something that is very hard to test as you are essentially trying to predict the future.

I could promise the former owner of a beloved car that I would drive it carefully and look after it but once I get on that motorway who knows???

Also, on the issue of him never being heard of in his hometown, did 5live poll all 50,000 inhabitants of Bhongir or just whoever they could find passing by? Also given that district is mainly farmland I wouldn't be surprised if the distance between people's housse was so vast you'd barely know your next door neighbour. There is a huge difference between being known to your community in a close knit town and being known in a place where you can walk out of your house and not see anyone for miles.

[ewoodpo]

Also, on the issue fo him never being heard of in his hometown, did 5live poll all 50,000 inhabitants of Bhongir or just whoever they could find passing by? Also given that district is mainly farmland I wouldn't be surprised if the diatnce between peoples houese was so vast you'd barely know your next door neighbour. There is a huge difference between being known to your community in a close knit town and being known in a place where you can walk out of your house and not see anyone for miles. [/b]

Have you ever been to India? I come from a farming community in India we have approx 5000 people in our village,along with several other little villages with a similar population in the district.I can tell you one thing for sure I know or have heard of most of the people in my village.

Can anybody answer one question forget the fellow villagers, why doesn't the District Collector have any records of this family owning 900 acres of land.

[nicko]

Nicko can you confirm if not don't worry the BBC programme last night are they sure they have the right Ali Syed as there are quite a few listed when you google his name. If you could do some digging also the lack of newspapers getting this story suggests the BBC are in the wrong. Please clarify. Thanks.

I think the BBC have got the right Syed.

The fact that the national papers have yet to take an interest is probably because nobody is too sure of the relevance of all of the info they came up with.

The LSE thing is odd, the rent thing is naughty in anyone's language, the council tax possibly an oversight, the congestion charge not a biggie...

I would love to know who is owed the £61,500 and why.

And Syed's whereabouts after he did a runner from the flat are obviously key to the next few years when he seems to have amassed some major money.

If it is family money, that is fair enough.

If he borrows cash from other people it really needs to be explained who that is.

[67splitscreen]

Also, on the issue fo him never being heard of in his hometown, did 5live poll all 50,000 inhabitants of Bhongir or just whoever they could find passing by? Also given that district is mainly farmland I wouldn't be surprised if the diatnce between peoples houese was so vast you'd barely know your next door neighbour. There is a huge difference between being known to your community in a close knit town and being known in a place where you can walk out of your house and not see anyone for miles. [/b]

Have you ever been to India? I come from a farming community in India we have approx 5000 people in our village,along with several other little villages with a similar population in the district I can tell you one thing for sure I know or have heard of most of the people in my village.

Can anybody answer one question forget the fellow villagers why doesn't the District Collector have any records of this family owning 900 acres of land.

is it possible that the land has been tenanted for a number of years maybe even for up to a generation.

I know of people in Phuket and Thailand who have portrayed themselves as owners of land and worked the land, then found themselves in the poo, when the true owners sell it.

[Billy Castell]

Should have known it was all going too well. Been out of the loop for a few weeks, and find out the BBC suggest he's a bit of a Michael Knighton type. I guess we'll find out whether he is a conman or not soonish.

[den]

I'm astounded that according to Den Goldberg now seemingly doesn't dispute that Mr. Syed has the money to complete the takeover - I thought that must have been the whole point and thrust of last night's programme.

This mornings interview - 2:27:00 in, just after the Jack Straw interview.

Here.

[ewoodpo]

is it possible that the land has been tenanted for a number of years maybe even for up to a generation.

I know of people in Phuket and Thailand who have portrayed themselves as owners of land and worked the land, then found themselves in the poo, when the true owners sell it.

Yes, it is possible that the land is tenanted some of our land is tenanted, but the Land Registry will still show us as the owners.

[Guest bluerovers]

Yes, it is possible that the land is tenanted some of our land is tenanted, but the Land Registry will still show us as the owners.

Yes but would explain why people hadn't heard of him who live there...which was his point

[den]

This mornings interview - 2:27:00 in, just after the Jack Straw interview.

Here.

and when I listened to it, the only real conclusion I could take, was that Goldberg is using the no smoke without flames evidence. A kind of "listen to all this" stuff, "there's so much of it, that it must be true" approach. If you go with that kind of theory, then all outcomes are possible. Personally I don't go along with that, I prefer if he has "real" evidence, that he shows it and sticks by his principles.

That show was so wishy washy, it was unreal. BTW, that doesn't mean I've made my mind up in any way. The trustees wont be making any decisions based on Goldberg's show, they will be far more professional than that.

[Sparky Marky]

Did I read correctly in WGA's accounts/balance sheet that they have a loan of £58,000,000 that needs paying by 2017?

[ewoodpo]

Yes but would explain why people hadn't heard of him who live there...which was his point

Your wrong with that one, regardless of the general public the District Collector should have records on him.

Especially In a country like India if you don't have property/land ownership on paper then it's gone.

[T4E]

It seems fairly obvious that the show was not aimed at Syed or BRFC, but rather at the larger issue of foreign ownership in the Premier League. There have been many highly publicised problems with foreign owners, Goldberg is obviously using this opportunity to look in to a prospective one in advance and put pressure on the PL's Fit and Proper test. It's perfectly topical and in no way a vendetta against BRFC.

It seems more and more likely that he's done us a favour.

[modes98]

Did I read correctly in WGA's accounts/balance sheet that they have a loan of £58,000,000 that needs paying by 2017?

Is there an open copy of the company accounts?

[Guest bluerovers]

Your wrong with that one, regardless of the general public the District Collector should have records on him.

Especially In a country like India if you don't have property/land ownership on paper then it's gone.

Did 5live interview the District Collector? Genuine question...

[chaddyrovers]

I think we got to wait for mr ali to comment on these bbc reports. I trust the rovers board, trust and rothchilds to find the right person. Mr Ali must have prove that he's got the funds to buy and invest in the long term of rovers before he got to look at the accounts. We don't know everything thats going on inside the club regarding this reports. Wonder if Kamy has ask WGA to comment on these bbc reports?

[CrazyIvan]

Did 5live interview the District Collector? Genuine question...

Nope, not that I heard. This is a storm in a teacup and, while there are genuine questions that it would be nice to get answered (not essential though), it really doesn't change a lot. I'm certain that most of us have things that we maybe regret or would change about our pasts and My Syed surely has. If the sum of all investigation by the BBC is that load of tosh, then My Syed is relatively clean. Compare Syed to Abramovich or even the Glazers, now that would be interesting to see...

[Montfort]

I listened to the 5 live radio programme last night and was appalled at the content. It made very grim listening. This guy - Ali - seems to be a liar. There was no record of him owning land where he said he owned it, unpaid bills here and there, and so on. But the worse news was that a company employing 11 people on paper made £93 million profit apparently had no assets and cash reserves of only £250,000. I have completely gone off this take over, in fact I dread it. A professor of accountancy said that he was sceptical about the accounts. I just hope Blackburn know what they are doing.