[Archived] Rovers Might Have Been Sold?

[rebelmswar]

  On 06/09/2010 at 23:07, Ste B said:

Lets not wreck the guys facebook page. If there is a shred of truth in any of these allegations then i'm sure we all want that exposing.

Roger.

I will not release the kraken.

[deryck guyler's spoon]

  On 06/09/2010 at 23:21, 47er said:

Can't wait!

If Mr Syed is on the level and turns out to be the owner we all desperately hope for I will happily buy a flight home, sit in the stocks in front of Ossy Library and have BRFCS members pelt me with wombat entrails.

I'm sure Thenodrog would be happy to be dunked in Tinker Brook.

[47er]

  On 06/09/2010 at 21:19, RovertheHill said:

And a whole lot more will if it doesn't.

Some people seem so desperate that they are defending somebody they hadn't heard of 3 weeks ago and regardless of the expertise they post with, they know absolutely nothing about this gentleman or his company.

Some of us are simply urging caution and a level of diligence whilst this runs its course, and are actually worried about the club passing to safe hands. Mr Syed needs to respond to these allegations and pass the appropriate Rovers and PL tests to convince us. I don't see that as unreasonable.

Nothing more, nothing less.

Quite untrue. Some of "you", in fact many of "you" wrote Syed off as being too good to be true as soon as you heard of him. Plenty of "you" are delighted with the BBC "revelations" as confirming what they already knew in their bones all along.

Plenty of you have abandoned all caution and have urged the club to get rid of the conman or chancer or whatever else he's been called.

I would love it if you are shown to be in error. Love it!!

[JoeBlueWhite]

  On 06/09/2010 at 23:36, 47er said:

I would love it if you are shown to be in error. Love it!!

[rebelmswar]

  On 06/09/2010 at 23:43, JoeBlueWhite said:

[47er]

  On 06/09/2010 at 23:43, JoeBlueWhite said:

Well done. You got the reference!

[XLM]

  On 06/09/2010 at 23:36, 47er said:

Quite untrue. Some of "you", in fact many of "you" wrote Syed off as being too good to be true as soon as you heard of him. Plenty of "you" are delighted with the BBC "revelations" as confirming what they already knew in their bones all along.

Plenty of you have abandoned all caution and have urged the club to get rid of the conman or chancer or whatever else he's been called.

I would love it if you are shown to be in error. Love it!!

Damn right.

[otto man]

  On 06/09/2010 at 22:24, rebelmswar said:

You crack me up dude, you really do!

[steverovers]

  On 06/09/2010 at 23:43, JoeBlueWhite said:

Saw this live - still makes me laugh - classic Keegan moment - Furguson must have lapped it up!!

[philipl]

Julia Thiem's contribution is very welcome.

It shows they are still interested in Rovers after getting the treatment from Goldberg so he is very much an option for the Trust/Rovers still.

They obviously have something solid to refute unless it is a bluff and we are beyond the stage where bluffs can be safely used.

The statement puts WGA in charge of timing unless the Goldberg airing is bringing more material which either either he or some other part of the media will expose when they want to.

Nicko is right- this stuff from Goldberg has to be refuted and I would add refuted convincingly. The timing of the refutation to have the best chance of killing the issue is critical. As is a mea culpa on any item raised which did happen rather than part answering the allegations made and ignoring the rest. Any gaps in the answer given will be seized upon so it needs to be comprehensive.

[philipl]

The main action will now be happening at the PL who will be acutely aware their new ownership rules credibility are now on trial.

They will have a masive pr investment in this one if they approve Ali Syed.

[Iceman]

Will the PL, go through WGA's books Philip? Or is it just a "are you capable" test?

[philipl]

  On 07/09/2010 at 05:36, Iceman said:

Will the PL, go through WGA's books Philip? Or is it just a "are you capable" test?

With everything which has broken, they will want to be as sure as they can that they will not destroy the credibility of their new tests by OK ing him. The new rules are tighter but not that tight. If he has an nine figure bank account and not wanted by interpol they would wave him through ordinarily but as he claims ten digits, they will presumably want to verify that.

[RovertheHill]

  On 06/09/2010 at 23:36, 47er said:

Quite untrue. Some of "you", in fact many of "you" wrote Syed off as being too good to be true as soon as you heard of him. Plenty of "you" are delighted with the BBC "revelations" as confirming what they already knew in their bones all along.

Plenty of you have abandoned all caution and have urged the club to get rid of the conman or chancer or whatever else he's been called.

I would love it if you are shown to be in error. Love it!!

What a complete and utter piece of crap.

The people on here who seemingly disagree with you and take a cautious view about this guy are Rovers fans who have the best interests of their club at heart. You, on the other hand, seem to be more of a fan of a guy who you'd NEVER heard of until 3 weeks ago. The number of people on here coming out with nonsense is ridiculous. "Oh yes, everybody does a runner when they're students" "Loads of people have CCJ's" "It's okay to not pay your debts" And why? Because you think he's got £7billion or so. There's a word for that.

The fact of the matter is, the guy needs to get the deal done, be properly verified and clear up these allegations. If he does that the majority on here will be very happy indeed - quite the contrary to your statement.

[Iceman]

  On 07/09/2010 at 06:13, RovertheHill said:

What a complete and utter piece of crap.

The people on here who seemingly disagree with you and take a cautious view about this guy are Rovers fans who have the best interests of their club at heart. You, on the other hand, seem to be more of a fan of a guy who you'd NEVER heard of until 3 weeks ago. The number of people on here coming out with nonsense is ridiculous. "Oh yes, everybody does a runner when they're students" "Loads of people have CCJ's" "It's okay to not pay your debts" And why? Because you think he's got £7billion or so. There's a word for that.

The fact of the matter is, the guy needs to get the deal done, be properly verified and clear up these allegations. If he does that the majority on here will be very happy indeed - quite the contrary to your statement.

this is the important bit i have to say. Ive tried to remain positive, and will really only pass judgement on Syed, wants his side of the story is revealed. If its all good, and both the club and PL are happy with the statements, then i cannot see why he would be deemed not fit to buy the club.

I can only imagine, that he had to have shown proof of funds, before he was allowed to enter into DD.

If that is the case, then the only verification would be, how he has made his fortune. If it is all legal, then again, the only obstacle preventing him from buying Rovers, is if the Trust decide that they would rather not sell to him. Based on the fact that they want out, if everything is in order, then i cannot see them pulling out of the deal, unless some other bidder offers them more and greed takes over.

[sparky12]

  On 06/09/2010 at 22:25, 1864roverite said:

Nothing new to add to what has been said. Nice to see Kamy got the scoop with the initial denial.

I still believe from what has been said the deal is "on" despite a second rival showing a big interest and think that tomorrow may just see a proper response from WGA.

BTW, on here there is a source link to hotels in the vicinity. Can that source do a check on room allocation at a nice hotel betweem Blackburn and Accy, I believe its popular for weddings, you never know who might be in town

im at work there today... ill get checking the computer... might visit the restaurant tonight aswell

[PAFELL]

  On 07/09/2010 at 06:13, RovertheHill said:

What a complete and utter piece of crap.

The people on here who seemingly disagree with you and take a cautious view about this guy are Rovers fans who have the best interests of their club at heart. You, on the other hand, seem to be more of a fan of a guy who you'd NEVER heard of until 3 weeks ago. The number of people on here coming out with nonsense is ridiculous. "Oh yes, everybody does a runner when they're students" "Loads of people have CCJ's" "It's okay to not pay your debts" And why? Because you think he's got £7billion or so. There's a word for that.

The fact of the matter is, the guy needs to get the deal done, be properly verified and clear up these allegations. If he does that the majority on here will be very happy indeed - quite the contrary to your statement.

I completely agree with this Roverthehill. I also considered you put the same point over just as well in the post earlier - though sadly miss-understood by others. I am not, as some may think, opposed to the takeover of the club. I am though opposed to lack of caution that some on here have. As you mentioned, nobody had heard of this bloke until 3 weeks ago. But it also looks like nobody has heard of him or his family or his land for the pass 150 years.

[Montfort]

  On 06/09/2010 at 16:08, Fife Rover said:

Syed has told us that he comes from a family that has generations of dealing with the East India Company and that is how they made their fortune. Now THAT piece of information should be so very easy for anyone to check, but yet it has so far proved to be very illusive and difficult (impossible?) to substantiate. WHY???? Even worse the town where he claims to originate from apparently has no knowledge of him or his family. Very very worrying; and it is just plain silly of people to attempt to dismiss this just because they desperately want this takeover to happen.

These people need to get real and realise that the thing that matters most in ANY buyout of BRFC is that the new owners are not just very rich, but even more importantly are 100% trustworthy. This little football club that we all love so much means far more to it's genuine fans (of which I am one) than simply being treated to a couple of seasons of glory in the EPL, after which the new owner gets bored or tired of "throwing his monet away" and either walks out or else simply reduces/stops further funding. Or even worse he starts selling up on the immovable assets. UNTHIKABLE!! That's why all of us and the club NEED to be so very careful.

Personally I would much rather see Blackburn Rovers keep their integity and hard won reputation as an honest and well run club even if it means relegation

None of the above means I am against a takeover by the way; I was quite happy with the present Ali Syed effort and still am, but ONLY if and when he (or any other suitor) has shown themselves to be not just capable, but more importantly FULLY WORTHY to be our new owners.

This is a great post and hits the nail on the head.

[Amo]

  On 06/09/2010 at 23:36, 47er said:

Quite untrue. Some of "you", in fact many of "you" wrote Syed off as being too good to be true as soon as you heard of him. Plenty of "you" are delighted with the BBC "revelations" as confirming what they already knew in their bones all along.

Plenty of you have abandoned all caution and have urged the club to get rid of the conman or chancer or whatever else he's been called.

Unlike Gordon, who's been nothing but modest and unassuming throughout.

[47er]

  On 07/09/2010 at 06:13, RovertheHill said:

What a complete and utter piece of crap.

The people on here who seemingly disagree with you and take a cautious view about this guy are Rovers fans who have the best interests of their club at heart. You, on the other hand, seem to be more of a fan of a guy who you'd NEVER heard of until 3 weeks ago. The number of people on here coming out with nonsense is ridiculous. "Oh yes, everybody does a runner when they're students" "Loads of people have CCJ's" "It's okay to not pay your debts" And why? Because you think he's got £7billion or so. There's a word for that.

The fact of the matter is, the guy needs to get the deal done, be properly verified and clear up these allegations. If he does that the majority on here will be very happy indeed - quite the contrary to your statement.

Thank you for your kind and thoughtful response! Some people who are cautious about "this guy" are exactly as you describe and I respect their views completely. Others are exactly as I described and have opposed a foreign takeover on principle and, in some cases, based on prejudice.

I am cautious in 2 ways--------1) I don't automatically accept what the media says-----eg did Syed ever say he was a graduate of LSE or did 1 paper report that and everyone else accept it? And I wait to read his response to what are still allegations not facts.

2) I am content to let the Trust judge his worthiness or otherwise. I'll happily abide by the decision-----I'll wager not all will.

So "complete and utter crap"?

[Iceman]

interesting, that on Syed's cv, it only mentions that his family were involved in private lending for over 150 years. No mention of the East india bit. There is also no mention of him attending the London School of Economics

perhaps the landlord got confused with this guy

Syed Ahsan Ali

or maybe it was a poet who once lived there

Poet

[Iceman]

i know there was this whole relocating by WGA in Bahrain, but did anybody post a link to it

Western Gulf Advisory relocates to Bahrain Financial Harbour

Bahrain advisory firm moves base

[Fife Rover]

  On 07/09/2010 at 06:13, RovertheHill said:

What a complete and utter piece of crap.

The people on here who seemingly disagree with you and take a cautious view about this guy are Rovers fans who have the best interests of their club at heart. You, on the other hand, seem to be more of a fan of a guy who you'd NEVER heard of until 3 weeks ago. The number of people on here coming out with nonsense is ridiculous. "Oh yes, everybody does a runner when they're students" "Loads of people have CCJ's" "It's okay to not pay your debts" And why? Because you think he's got £7billion or so. There's a word for that.

The fact of the matter is, the guy needs to get the deal done, be properly verified and clear up these allegations. If he does that the majority on here will be very happy indeed - quite the contrary to your statement.

It begins with P and ends with N.

Leaving that aside I fully agree with every thing RtH has said there. He describes my position perfectly, and one shared by a great many more true fans as well.

We ALL need to take a deep breath, settle down and let the appropriate people get on with whatever they have to do. We will all know the result soon enough. There is nothing any of us can do about it either so why get upset and fall out amongst ourselves?

[Hughesy]

  On 07/09/2010 at 06:34, sparky12 said:

im at work there today... ill get checking the computer... might visit the restaurant tonight aswell

Make sure its once the sun has gone down

  On 07/09/2010 at 07:50, Iceman said:

i know there was this whole relocating by WGA in Bahrain, but did anybody post a link to it

Western Gulf Advisory relocates to Bahrain Financial Harbour

Bahrain advisory firm moves base

Yes they were all linked about a week ago.

LT picked up the response from Kamy and used it today

[RoversSG]

Let me summarise what has happened so far.

1. Syed wants to buy us.

Fact.

2. He has been granted due diligence.

Fact. This strongly implies that he has money or at least have enough to buy us.

3. He seems to be unknown in his hometown.

Might or might not mean anything.

4. His company in Bahrain seem to have ran into some problems.

Fact is no one is sure what the problem is or if there is one.

5. He seems to have some problems with unpaid debts.

Might or might not be true. Again, we have too little info to make a judgement.

6. He might or might not have graduated from LSE.

Potentially serious if he did not graduate from LSE as that amounts to bareface lying but from reading Wen Y Hu earlier post, I think the LSE part did not come from him.

7. His intentions for us.

Unknown but i think there is much more risk for him buying us (a loss making entity which is unlikely to be profitable) than vice versa.

Anything else i missed?

Why don't we just wait till Sunday and all will be revealed by then. If Sunday passes without him buying the club, we can take it that the Board has serious considerations about him. If the sales goes through, all should be good as the Board would have considered all the things raised in the previous 379 pages!