[Archived] Rovers Might Have Been Sold?

[Brownie]

Therefore, is takeover more or less likely.

In all probability, things have been frantic for many days.

Not sure that this will help the natives sleep any easier tonight!

I took it asmeaning more likely, with Monday fast approaching, rock solid info anyway

[tony gale's mic]

You are really on one tonight TGM. You have already said he has access to millions. What is the exact amount of personal wealth that triggers a wiki entry?

Bb has already mentioned that there are Indian billionaires without a wiki page.

Pride comes before a fall, as they say.

If somehow I'm wrong and he goes on to spend tens of millions of pounds on transfer fees, I wouldn't call that a fall.

Those few Indian billionaires without a wiki page (none of them worth more than $2bn which is much less than what Syed claims to be worth) still have reams and reams and reams of stuff about themselves on the internet. Literally pages and pages.

It's not just wiki, that's an example, it's the lack of virtually any information at all about this man.

[philipl]

Hardly an unknown like Syed. If he was taking over Rovers he'd still have some sort of backstory.

And I'm fairly sure it's not claimed Mr Sellers is a billionaire, or even close.

You are making my point for me. He wasn't an unknown but two years ago you would scarcely find any trace of him on the internet.

He was majority shareholder of Fosters- current market cap $11bn. Speedo was owned by Linter when he owned that. Then there were the mines, the forests, the real estate and the media group...

Of course its not claimed he is a billionaire, that again is my point.

You guys take some time to have the penny drop sometimes.

The fact Ali Syed is flying under all the radars does not mean he is not worth $8bn.

[booth]

I can name very few billionaires if I'm honest

[tony gale's mic]

You're confident that, if we had a poll, most people would have known... wait... HEARD of Abramovich before his interest in Chelsea? Or the City owner?

No but information would be very easily available about them.

I've already posted this but from a Guardian article about Abramovich:

By 1996, at the age of 30, Abramovich had become so rich and politically well-connected that he had become close to President Boris Yeltsin, and had moved into an apartment in the Kremlin at the invitation of the Yeltsin family. In 1999, and now a tycoon, Abramovich was elected governor of Russia's remote, far eastern province of Chukotka, and has since lavished £112 million (€ 132 million) on charity to rebuild the impoverished region. The identikit image being pieced together for us was of a self-made man who was not only powerful and wealthy, but acutely aware of those who had done less well in the tumultuous 1990s, when the Soviet Union fell.

City's owner is president of the state of UAE which includes Dubai. Again, they wouldnt be expected to know the president of Dubai but once they had his name there'd be masses and masses of things about him.

How can you possibly compare those to the conman claiming he's in the same league of wealth as them?

[rebelmswar]

Ladies, this is really boring. Either make Big Ali his own wiki page or revert to some harsh but hilarious personal insults to make it worth reading for the rest of us.

Shut up b1tch this is interesting.

[Henwah]

If somehow I'm wrong and he goes on to spend tens of millions of pounds on transfer fees, I wouldn't call that a fall.

Those few Indian billionaires without a wiki page (none of them worth more than $2bn which is much less than what Syed claims to be worth) still have reams and reams and reams of stuff about themselves on the internet. Literally pages and pages.

It's not just wiki, that's an example, it's the lack of virtually any information at all about this man.

We can't use this as an absolute proof though, either way - despite it being odd on the surface (i'm trying to maintain balance here)

[Wiggy]

You are making my point for me. He wasn't an unknown but two years ago you would scarcely find any trace of him on the internet.

He was majority shareholder of Fosters- current market cap $11bn. Speedo was owned by Linter when he owned that. Then there were the mines, the forests, the real estate and the media group...

Of course its not claimed he is a billionaire, that again is my point.

You guys take some time to have the penny drop sometimes.

The fact Ali Syed is flying under all the radars does not mean he is not worth $8bn.

Flip flop.

[S15]

Shut up b1tch this is interesting.

I you find this interesting I'd buy a TV and get a vasectomy.

[booth]

How can you possibly compare those to the conman claiming he's in the same league of wealth as them?

That's a little harsh considering we don't know the full facts yet.

[reckless]

You didnt know the ruling family of Abu Dhabi were filthy rich before City?

This thread

His name please, City's owner not who his family is.............and no Googling etc!

Admit it, you don't even know over a year after he bought them.

[rebelmswar]

I you find this interesting I'd buy a TV and get a vasectomy.

TV is poison and my testicle area is made of brass.

This is better than any soap out there. Bollywood HAS come to Rovers.

[Mattyblue]

His name please, City's owner not who his family is.............and no Googling etc!

Admit it you don't even know over a year after he bought them.

What a ridiculous question.

I do actually, because I'm into the gee gees and the Emirates are big players.

Otherwise, it wouldnt matter as you don't need to know the names of ruling Presidents, Kings and large company owners to be aware of their financial status.

[Henwah]

No but information would be very easily available about them.

I've already posted this but from a Guardian article about Abramovich:

City's owner is president of the state of UAE which includes Dubai. Again, they wouldnt be expected to know the president of Dubai but once they had his name there'd be masses and masses of things about him.

How can you possibly compare those to the conman claiming he's in the same league of wealth as them?

Again - without knowing when the first article about the guy was published the content is irrellevant - once someone is deemed by the masses (or media nowadays) to have a story, history follows and a deluge of historic data is free for all to see

[tony gale's mic]

You are making my point for me. He wasn't an unknown but two years ago you would scarcely find any trace of him on the internet.

He was majority shareholder of Fosters- current market cap $11bn. Speedo was owned by Linter when he owned that. Then there were the mines, the forests, the real estate and the media group...

Of course its not claimed he is a billionaire, that again is my point.

You guys take some time to have the penny drop sometimes.

The fact Ali Syed is flying under all the radars does not mean he is not worth $8bn.

Where do you get the stuff about him being the majority shareholder in Fosters? All that's written about him is that he had major investments in Elder's Group which was what Foster's was called prior to 1990. None of the figures from the here and now claim theyre worth $11 billion (more like $4billion Australian) - and even then it was a long time since that he had shares in that company.

This chap was still registering on far more radars than Syed ever was - he wouldve still been known in the business world for being majority shareholders in these famous companies and if the internet was a big thing when he owned those companies there still would've been a tremendous amount written about him.

That's still incomparable with Syed's minimal profile.

[philipl]

Flip flop.

Going from 99% certain Ali Syed would buy Rovers to 60% certain is hardly a flip flop.

[reckless]

Otherwise, it wouldnt matter as you don't need to know the names of ruling Presidents, Kings and large company owners to be aware of their financial status.

Yes you do.

[Guest Kamy100]

Guys there is so many rumours flying around at the moment. Best thing that we can do is wait for official statements from Rovers and WGA. This starts with statement in the Lancashire Telegraph tomorrow morning which has come from the PR company representing WGA in London.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

Ali,lend us a grand will you cocker?.

This is doing my frikin head in...completely

[rebelmswar]

Guys there is so many rumours flying around at the moment. Best thing that we can do is wait for official statements from Rovers and WGA. This starts with statement in the Lancashire Telegraph tomorrow morning which has come from the PR company representing WGA in London.

THe PR firm that has never heard of him?

[tony gale's mic]

Again - without knowing when the first article about the guy was published the content is irrellevant - once someone is deemed by the masses (or media nowadays) to have a story, history follows and a deluge of historic data is free for all to see

But it doesnt change what actually happened. Roman was so rich and successful that he was best mates with Yeltsin, had a place in the Kremlin and ran a large part of Russia. City's owners own UAE, if an article was published tomorrow about that simply because of their connections to Man City it wouldnt make it any less relevant as itd be completely verifiable.

If either of us knew Russian or Arabic I'm sure we could find reams of stuff about both of these characters written from before they ran their clubs.

You cannot compare these people to Ahsan Ali Syed, surely this much is obvious.

[reckless]

Guys there is so many rumours flying around at the moment. Best thing that we can do is wait for official statements from Rovers and WGA. This starts with statement in the Lancashire Telegraph tomorrow morning which has come from the PR company representing WGA in London.

Must be a dead deal. I'm sure the takeover would be national newsworthy first, or at least in parallel with the LT. Just the LT seems too low profile..........but you never know :-)

[bonerdude]

What made me laugh is that someone replied... "After spending years campaigning against corupt councillors and MPs,I have learnt that if they are attacking you your having an effect.When they are quite about you is the time to worry."

This was a serious reply to Goldberg jokingly posting: "Someone's out to get us!" with the following video... http://www.grapheine...fb25a54410.html

I politely replied with... "Simon, I doubt very much Mr Syed produced this film."

Cheers fella cause i made the film, just for fun no harm or offence. Cant believe the fuss its caused lol

[67splitscreen]

Own up, who's blue in the face.

[Balwer]

You are making my point for me. He wasn't an unknown but two years ago you would scarcely find any trace of him on the internet.

He was majority shareholder of Fosters- current market cap $11bn. Speedo was owned by Linter when he owned that. Then there were the mines, the forests, the real estate and the media group...

Of course its not claimed he is a billionaire, that again is my point.

You guys take some time to have the penny drop sometimes.

The fact Ali Syed is flying under all the radars does not mean he is not worth $8bn.

Not to quibble, but a couple of points:

to be chief executive of something (like Linter) and major shareholder is not the same as owning it

Fosters floated in the early 90s after being bought off Elders by Asahi before that

Sellers was a substantial investor in Elders, but for a company like that we could be talking 10-20%

Sellers is a comfortable millionaire, however I doubt whether that would come close to even one billion

To be a multi millionaire and be anonymous is achievable.

To be worth around billion and not known is difficult, but perhaps still manageable.

To be worth 8 billion pounds, placing someone in the top 50-100 wealthiest human beings on the planet, and to achieve the kind of anonymity Ali Syed has is far-fetched, in my opinion.

You can't compare Basil Sellers to Ahsan Ali Syed in that regard.

EDIT: I took too long, tgm stole my thunder!