[Archived] Rovers Might Have Been Sold?

[Guest Kamy100]

Please guys, lets just wait for official statements from Rovers and WGA, they will clear things and also give factual information which we can then discuss. With so many rumours flying about this is the best approach to take.

[philipl]

Where do you get the stuff about him being the majority shareholder in Fosters? All that's written about him is that he had major investments in Elder's Group which was what Foster's was called prior to 1990.

This chap was still registering on far more radars than Syed ever was - he wouldve still been known in the business world for being majority shareholders in these famous companies and if the internet was a big thing when he owned those companies there still would've been a tremendous amount written about him.

That's still incomparable with Syed's minimal profile.

Are you for real?

Do you really believe that everything on Wikipedia is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

Three years ago, that chap was as anonymous on the internet as Ali Syed is today.

I was CFO and second largest shareholder of a business start-up that chap was majority shareholder of- do you believe me or Wikipedia?

I can only repeat all this business that Ali Syed is not worth what he says he is because we cannot find him on the internet is buncum. Internet presence, Forbes lists, Sunday Times Rich Lists etc etc are all easy to avoid if you have that sort of wealth and want to avoid getting on them.

[tony gale's mic]

Please guys, lets just wait for official statements from Rovers and WGA, they will clear things and also give factual information which we can then discuss. With so many rumours flying about this is the best approach to take.

Kamy you've done a sterling job in this whole affair mate but this is a discussion board - rumours and conjecture will be discussed almost as much as facts.

[Balwer]

Yes you do.

Have you heard of the Sultan of Brunei?

Heard he's pretty rich yes?

Know his name? I don't. Doesn't stop me being aware of his wealth though.

[beerwins]

Wow some of you guys seem at breaking point!

Relax for a while

[iammikec]

Has anyone asked Julia Thiem to be their friend on Facebook yet?

http://www.facebook.com/people/Julia-Thiem/719028025

[Henwah]

But it doesnt change what actually happened. Roman was so rich and successful that he was best mates with Yeltsin, had a place in the Kremlin and ran a large part of Russia. City's owners own UAE, if an article was published tomorrow about that simply because of their connections to Man City it wouldnt make it any less relevant as itd be completely verifiable.

If either of us knew Russian or Arabic I'm sure we could find reams of stuff about both of these characters written from before they ran their clubs.

You cannot compare these people to Ahsan Ali Syed, surely this much is obvious.

Maybe it will turn out that syed was roommates with the dali lama (spelling?), the point is that until someone is compelled enough to write it, it doesn't exist

[rebelmswar]

Wow some of you guys seem at breaking point!

Relax for a while

o

No! blood must be spilled!

I just made some popcorn.

[Balwer]

Are you for real?

Do you really believe that everything on Wikipedia is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

Three years ago, that chap was as anonymous on the internet as Ali Syed is today.

I was CFO and second largest shareholder of a business start-up that chap was majority shareholder of- do you believe me or Wikipedia?

I can only repeat all this business that Ali Syed is not worth what he says he is because we cannot find him on the internet is buncum. Internet presence, Forbes lists, Sunday Times Rich Lists etc etc are all easy to avoid if you have that sort of wealth and want to avoid getting on them.

Philip, he was part of the consortium that relocated the South Melbourne Football Club to Sydney, as someone not from Australia I don't expect you to know that, but to say he's anonymous on the internet is a bit much. Here's an article on him from The Age, dated more than three years ago... http://www.theage.com.au/news/entertainment/is-there-a-fine-art-to-sportsmanship/2007/02/22/1171733942921.html

[tony gale's mic]

Are you for real?

Do you really believe that everything on Wikipedia is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

Three years ago, that chap was as anonymous on the internet as Ali Syed is today.

I was CFO and second largest shareholder of a business start-up that chap was majority shareholder of- do you believe me or Wikipedia?

I can only repeat all this business that Ali Syed is not worth what he says he is because we cannot find him on the internet is buncum. Internet presence, Forbes lists, Sunday Times Rich Lists etc etc are all easy to avoid if you have that sort of wealth and want to avoid getting on them.

No offence Philip, but considering you were claiming to the whole board that the basis for the BBC's investigation was their misreading of the word "closed" in their company description on that Bahrain website, I don't really trust a great deal that you claim.

I don't think that everything on Wikipedia is the truth. However I do think that it's next to impossible to be a multi billionaire, be hugely successful in your field and yet at the same time be totally anonymous. Sellers owned high profile Aussie Rules and basketball teams in Australia before three years ago, he might not have been a household name but he would have been far more well known than Syed.

[Exiled in Toronto]

Are you for real?

Do you really believe that everything on Wikipedia is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

Three years ago, that chap was as anonymous on the internet as Ali Syed is today.

I was CFO and second largest shareholder of a business start-up that chap was majority shareholder of- do you believe me or Wikipedia?

I can only repeat all this business that Ali Syed is not worth what he says he is because we cannot find him on the internet is buncum. Internet presence, Forbes lists, Sunday Times Rich Lists etc etc are all easy to avoid if you have that sort of wealth and want to avoid getting on them.

Aside from that, does he even claim to be a billionaire anyway? There's been so much tosh posted on here I can't remember what I read where, but wasn't the original plotline that he was SOLE HEIR TO his family fortune and that WGA is better placed than banks to invest the family money? Doesn't that mean that, while he might control how the money is invested, the billions aren't actually his (yet)?

Of course, the family bit could all well be garbage but I don't see why a bloke who isn't a billionaire yet should be expected to have his name all over the internet. I'm not a billionaire yet and.....

[Balwer]

Aside from that, does he even claim to be a billionaire anyway? There's been so much tosh posted on here I can't remember what I read where, but wasn't the original plotline that he was SOLE HEIR TO his family fortune and that WGA is better placed than banks to invest the family money? Doesn't that mean that, while he might control how the money is invested, the billions aren't actually his (yet)?

Of course, the family bit could all well be garbage but I don't see why a bloke who isn't a billionaire yet should be expected to have his name all over the internet. I'm not a billionaire yet and.....

To be fair, he said in one of his interviews that people are welcome to prove the validity of his claim to the worth, and how many companies he owns.

Perhaps he knows we're not going to find much, despite our collective digging...

[reckless]

Have you heard of the Sultan of Brunei?

Heard he's pretty rich yes?

Know his name? I don't. Doesn't stop me being aware of his wealth though.

Yes, which Sultan of Brunei might that be....................has there only been one? We're talking about potential football club owners' names not Royalty names.

Anyway, all may come clear tomorrow but I would like to know our new owner's name if and when they arrive, unlike City's owner, who's name even now doesn't roll off the tongue.

[LeChuck]

I can only repeat all this business that Ali Syed is not worth what he says he is because we cannot find him on the internet is buncum. Internet presence, Forbes lists, Sunday Times Rich Lists etc etc are all easy to avoid if you have that sort of wealth and want to avoid getting on them.

Why would someone determined to keep their wealth private suddenly want to buy a Premier League club and start talking to anyone media outlet that will listen about how much money he is prepared to spend?

It doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

Plus it's not just his own wealth we can find evidence of, it's this 100 year family history that supposedely gave him his billions.

I want this to be true as much as everyone else, but it's not looking good at all.

[Henwah]

Why would someone determined to keep their wealth private suddenly want to buy a Premier League club and start talking to anyone media outlet that will listen about how much money he is prepared to spend?

It doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

Plus it's not just his own wealth we can find evidence of, it's this 100 year family history that supposedely gave him his billions.

I want this to be true as much as everyone else, but it's not looking good at all.

Because he's made his crapload of cash and wants to indulge, as he said originally...

[tony gale's mic]

Aside from that, does he even claim to be a billionaire anyway? There's been so much tosh posted on here I can't remember what I read where, but wasn't the original plotline that he was SOLE HEIR TO his family fortune and that WGA is better placed than banks to invest the family money? Doesn't that mean that, while he might control how the money is invested, the billions aren't actually his (yet)?

Of course, the family bit could all well be garbage but I don't see why a bloke who isn't a billionaire yet should be expected to have his name all over the internet. I'm not a billionaire yet and.....

It was claimed he was worth between 3 and 8 billion. When asked about his wealth I'm pretty sure Julia Thiem replied along the lines of "I don't like to comment but the figures are in the newspapers" - correct me if I'm wrong though as I may be.

There's no mention of this family fortune anywhere either. The number of Indian billionaires has shot up massively in the last 10-15 years due to the rapid growth in the Indian economy, but if they were billionaires ten to fifteen years ago they would have been hugely famous throughout India.

So either they were somehow secretive billionaires or their wealth has grown massively in the time their son has been running the show.

He's pledged $300 million to invest in Rovers and has also mentioned $300m deals both with McCabe and with Cubbie Station. Added to that the fact he claims he's got deals in all sorts of other parts of the world and that'd easily tip him over a billion.

[Henwah]

The numbers involved, and the subsequent lack of completion of deals are worringly correllated admittedly - he seems to be involved in deals a lot, but never, or rarely (which allows the seed of optimism) completes them, there may be a reason, but it is a frequently occurring set of numbers and outcomes

[brfcmad1979]

not saying this is gospel but a joint statement is to be issued tomorrow if a thread on rovers-mad is to be believed.

[Brownie]

Tomorrow could well be THE day

[brfcmad1979]

Tomorrow could well be THE day

It probably won't be! That would ease the torment far too quickly!

[Henwah]

not saying this is gospel but a joint statement is to be issued tomorrow if a thread on rovers-mad is to be believed.

so it's either gonna be good, or bad?

yes, that intended to be a stupid question before vinjay asks)

[rebelmswar]

not saying this is gospel but a joint statement is to be issued tomorrow if a thread on rovers-mad is to be believed.

Waiting for Hughsey to confirm before I believe.

[HemelRover]

Waiting for Hughsey to confirm before I believe.

Or Chaddys golf playing mate?

[67splitscreen]

not saying this is gospel but a joint statement is to be issued tomorrow if a thread on rovers-mad is to be believed.

That's been lifted from here by a poster who was on here when Kammy broke the news.

[Brownie]

Nobody know anyone who works at the telegraph ?