[Archived] Rovers Might Have Been Sold?

[CrazyIvan]

There is a very rich Asian family based in Preston. I know they are there and I know they have fingers in lots of pies but I haven't got a clue who they are. Answer this, people who think Syed should be known by everyone around where he lives, do YOU know anyone around in your local area who is very wealthy? Do you think it's any different in India?

[1864roverite]

There are actually 3 "rich" Asian families in Preston, 3 that you would say are relatively well known.

1= family name begins with the letter "S"

2= family name begins with the letter "P"

3- family name begins with the letter "B"

None are considered billionaires in either $ or £.

[Torgeir]

Sloppy. Bhongir is the closest city to Bibinagar so the PR team should not have included that part at all. Not to mention the fact that the sentence they wrote made no sense.

Other than that the fact that they're releasing a statement on a Friday night tells us all that the bid is till 'live', and as such it's all good news. Little has changed from before the press release was passed around though, we still don't know when/if the bid will go through.

Still exciting though

[tony gale's mic]

Bloody hell tgm, if this deal does happen I hope someone is there to take care of you

Yeah, because if I'm wrong and somehow he's some secret billionaire and starts buying loads of players I'll be REALLY upset.

There is a very rich Asian family based in Preston. I know they are there and I know they have fingers in lots of pies but I haven't got a clue who they are. Answer this, people who think Syed should be known by everyone around where he lives, do YOU know anyone around in your local area who is very wealthy? Do you think it's any different in India?

If that rich Asian family were billionaires, I suspect you'd know about them.

And it is very different in India, where the gap between rich and poor is many times greater and so those with money would be even more well known.

[JoeBlueWhite]

Guys - as I flagged earlier in the week, the Beeb is legally under REAL pressure.

Uncle Ali does not seem to ride with 'second raters' (look at his back-up team) and given that the Beeb have been shown to be factually incorrect on some issues, is a huge, huge error on their behalf.

When in a hole then stop digging Beeb - as clearly Ali hasn't backed-off then he'll go for their jugular with a potential claim running into MILLIONS (an estimate from my legal eagle friend in London <doesn't work for A & O but does work for one of the real aggressive, win at all costs big ones>).

If Adrien Goldberg keeps going I think he is playing with fire here. If this statement can be backed up with legal documents -

Investigations by WGA’s legal representatives in the UK have confirmed that there is no record of outstanding council tax debts owed by Mr Ali and no evidence has been found of any congestion charge fine. In fact, in one instance Mr Ali overpaid council tax.

Then surely he could sue the BBC for their comments suggesting he did have council tax debts ?

Who knows if Syed will buy our club but you get the feeling Goldberg might go down in flames here.

[tony gale's mic]

TGM this is getting a bit daft.

The statement says these two places are in different Indian districts - true yes or no?

Blackburn and Burnley are in different English and European districts - true yes or no?

The statement says the two places are both in Andar Predesh - true yes or no?

Blackburn and Burnley are both in Lancashire - true yes or no?

The way this thread is going TGM is going to be Adrian Goldberg's star guest before the tennis starts!

1. No - they're in the same district (Nalgonda).

2. In England we don't have districts - we have counties (closest equivalent since Nalgonda numbers 3 million). And Blackburn and Burnley are both in the same county. So no.

3. The statement adds it as an afterthought as in that they happen to be in the same state - but Andhra Pradesh is absolutely huge. The fact they're right next to each other and Bhongir is the nearest closest town is completely ignored.

For the BBC to go looking in Bhongir for evidence of the family's reputation when they're from a village just down the road is reasonable - yes or no?

[brian_gallagher85]

Is the point of secret millionaire that the people don't recognise the really rich person?

I just hope TGM never features on that show as he seems to be able to spot mega rich folk at 10 paces

I think the most interesting thing will now be Goldbergs response to all this on Sunday night.

I wouldn't read too much into the length of time it has taken Syed's team to respond in full - they would have made sure that they dotted every i and crossed every t before releasing it...the timing will also give 5live enough time to include it in their next show, but crucially not enough to do any major digging into the new statement

[CrazyIvan]

There are actually 3 "rich" Asian families in Preston, 3 that you would say are relatively well known.

1= family name begins with the letter "S"

2= family name begins with the letter "P"

3- family name begins with the letter "B"

None are considered billionaires in either $ or £.

My point is that if someone asked me about billionaires in Blackburn or anybody wealthy there, I wouldn't have a clue. I know there are three families who are wealthy in Preston and one in particular but I don't know who they are.

If the BBC went and asked the records people about rich families in Bhonghir named Syed (or however the family name works there), they'd get the answer they got. Idiotic by the BBC and Mr Goldberg if you ask me.

[JoeBlueWhite]

1. No - they're in the same district (Nalgonda).

2. In England we don't have districts - we have counties (closest equivalent since Nalgonda numbers 3 million). And Blackburn and Burnley are both in the same county. So no.

3. The statement adds it as an afterthought as in that they happen to be in the same state - but Andhra Pradesh is absolutely huge. The fact they're right next to each other and Bhongir is the nearest closest town is completely ignored.

For the BBC to go looking in Bhongir for evidence of the family's reputation when they're from a village just down the road is reasonable - yes or no?

Have you even read the rest of his statement. You just seem to keep banging on about this one thing for page after page after page.....

[rebelmswar]

1. No - they're in the same district (Nalgonda).

2. In England we don't have districts - we have counties (closest equivalent since Nalgonda numbers 3 million). And Blackburn and Burnley are both in the same county. So no.

3. The statement adds it as an afterthought as in that they happen to be in the same state - but Andhra Pradesh is absolutely huge. The fact they're right next to each other and Bhongir is the nearest closest town is completely ignored.

For the BBC to go looking in Bhongir for evidence of the family's reputation when they're from a village just down the road is reasonable - yes or no?

Bibinagar is a pretty decent size in its own right.

It still stands that we have no idea whom the BBC asked - there is a vast difference in the amount of worldly knowledge between your average Indian citizen and average British one.

[67splitscreen]

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For the BBC to go looking in Bhongir for evidence of the family's reputation when they're from a village just down the road is reasonable - yes or no?

Do you remember who Goldberg asked in Bhongir and which office he was from?.

[philipl]

Yeah, because if I'm wrong and somehow he's some secret billionaire and starts buying loads of players I'll be REALLY upset.

If that rich Asian family were billionaires, I suspect you'd know about them.

And it is very different in India, where the gap between rich and poor is many times greater and so those with money would be even more well known.

TGM, you are speculating here.

I suspect you might not have met many seriously rich people and don't have any sense of what makes them tick.

At a certain wealth, personal health and security, self-respect and self-confidence in judging the people around you are far far more important than any ostentation.

Even in a tiny island like Malta (400,000), most people have no real grasp of who is rich and who is massively rich. There are a few worth something getting towards the billion mark but if you asked the local reporter to ask the tax inspector, they wouldn't know them all. The ones who act rich are comfortable for sure but the really big money is very quiet.

Most real billionaires live everywhere and nowhere.

[tony gale's mic]

Have you even read the rest of his statement. You just seem to keep banging on about this one thing for page after page after page.....

Yeah but it tells us nothing one way or another. It's got denials but we don't know whether he paid his rent or not, it's basically his word against the landlords.

It includes a CCJ admission but then had he denied this the BBC would have been able to produce definitive evidence, as opposed to the rent issue which would have been much harder.

Who knows if he's telling the truth, this statement tells us nothing new. But the fact it's making attempts to mislead people and claim the BBC went to completely the wrong place when asking about Syed when in fact they went to the right area is a litle strange.

[rebelmswar]

Who knows if he's telling the truth, this statement tells us nothing new. But the fact it's making attempts to mislead people and claim the BBC went to completely the wrong place when asking about Syed when in fact they went to the right area is a litle strange.

They DID go to the wrong place.

They may have been close but that only counts with horseshoes and hand grenades.

[Henwah]

Unless they go out of their way to advertise the fact, the only obvious 'public' indication of someone's wealth would be their house/car etc - Would a billionaire's house and car look significantly more expensive than a 'mere' millionaire's? I don't agree with this theory that having a huge bank balance is something that would be common knowledge to everyone in a 10 mile radius, just by the simple virtue of its existence

[JoeBlueWhite]

Yeah but it tells us nothing one way or another. It's got denials but we don't know whether he paid his rent or not, it's basically his word against the landlords.

It includes a CCJ admission but then had he denied this the BBC would have been able to produce definitive evidence, as opposed to the rent issue which would have been much harder.

Who knows if he's telling the truth, this statement tells us nothing new. But the fact it's making attempts to mislead people and claim the BBC went to completely the wrong place when asking about Syed when in fact they went to the right area is a litle strange.

They did go the wrong place and claim he was born there.

How about this ?

Investigations by WGA’s legal representatives in the UK have confirmed that there is no record of outstanding council tax debts owed by Mr Ali and no evidence has been found of any congestion charge fine. In fact, in one instance Mr Ali overpaid council tax.

If correct that proves the BBC piece was misleading and lying about facts to further their story.

[CrazyIvan]

Yeah but it tells us nothing one way or another. It's got denials but we don't know whether he paid his rent or not, it's basically his word against the landlords.

It includes a CCJ admission but then had he denied this the BBC would have been able to produce definitive evidence, as opposed to the rent issue which would have been much harder.

Who knows if he's telling the truth, this statement tells us nothing new. But the fact it's making attempts to mislead people and claim the BBC went to completely the wrong place when asking about Syed when in fact they went to the right area is a litle strange.

Clutching at straws TGM.

[thenodrog]

This is my favourite part.

Why? How much is agricultural land per acre in and around Bibinagar?

[booth]

Let's face it, that 5 Live article was pretty sensationalist by BBC standards as well as sloppy. Now Syed is saying there was only one accurate thing in the report, and he can back up not owing most of the other monies with legal proof.

Didn't Goldberg once present Watchdog? The report mimicked the exact format of that show. The nail in the coffin of that report was when I and several other people had things removed quietly from the Facebook page, to somehow preserve the pureness of the character assassination.

Anyone who thinks Goldberg had any agenda other than trying to garner new listeners, whether it be the BBC hating Rovers or him trying to produce an honest report is deluding themselves. He was just trying to make a splash with his first show, and I suspect now he's hoping it all blows over very quickly.

Whether Syed is the real deal no one knows but he certainly has some big hitters on his team now, which is just as much a statement as the words that he's just released. They wont work for a chancer or a conman.

Will be interesting to see what Goldberg says on Sunday night.

[otto man]

Yeah but it tells us nothing one way or another. It's got denials but we don't know whether he paid his rent or not, it's basically his word against the landlords.

It includes a CCJ admission but then had he denied this the BBC would have been able to produce definitive evidence, as opposed to the rent issue which would have been much harder.

Who knows if he's telling the truth, this statement tells us nothing new. But the fact it's making attempts to mislead people and claim the BBC went to completely the wrong place when asking about Syed when in fact they went to the right area is a litle strange.

Please dude knock it on the head now. You're makng yourself look a right willy. Talk about clutching at straws!

By the way have you contacted Mulder and Scully....The truth is out there!

[imy9]

FFS-simple question is the place the bbc went to the same as the place syed lives yes or no?

Bbc went to a difference place 13k is not the same place is it? ws9 is not the same as b9 is it, there is a 8 mile difference but are in the west midlands.

[tony gale's mic]

TGM, you are speculating here.

I suspect you might not have met many seriously rich people and don't have any sense of what makes them tick.

At a certain wealth, personal health and security, self-respect and self-confidence in judging the people around you are far far more important than any ostentation.

Even in a tiny island like Malta (400,000), most people have no real grasp of who is rich and who is massively rich. There are a few worth something getting towards the billion mark but if you asked the local reporter to ask the tax inspector, they wouldn't know them all. The ones who act rich are comfortable for sure but the really big money is very quiet.

Most real billionaires live everywhere and nowhere.

...as opposed to all those fake billionaires plastered all over the papers?

Philip, of all the people on the board to call me out for "speculating" I would have thought you would be one of the last...

There's a certain amount of speculation involved but then there is from everyone on this thread concerning this man that so little is known about. It's just my speculation is the type of speculation no one wants to hear about..

Many billionaires are very secretive, but it doesn't mean they're not known about. Chuck Feeney, the Barclay brothers to name just two...they're hardly ostentatious, they shy away from publicity at all costs but they're still known about as in order to earn a billion you must have made some serious deals and become highly successful in your field.

If you have a billion you hardly need to be ostentatious to be well known.

[brian_gallagher85]

Bloody hell tgm, if this deal does happen I hope someone is there to take care of you

I'm sure he and Mr Goldberg will be able to drown their sorrows together!

[tony gale's mic]

They DID go to the wrong place.

They may have been close but that only counts with horseshoes and hand grenades.

It's the equivalent of someone looking for a billionaire from Mellor going to Blackburn.

[CrazyIvan]

It's the equivalent of someone looking for a billionaire from Mellor going to Blackburn.

Or Preston, or Burnley, or Manchester for that matter... It's STILL the wrong place.