[Archived] Rovers Might Have Been Sold?

[thenodrog]

Come on TNR you are much more intelligent than that.

I cannot talk about China but the vast majority of people in India/Pakistan do not have the means nor the will to "chuck their house keys at a dodgy bet", also just because there have been allegation, much of them unproven does not mean that EVERY single person betting in those markets is dodgy, that is like saying all England football fans are hooligans just because the minority have caused problems in the past.

This is a football thread, please do not try and turn it into anything else.

Just trying to find the angles Kamy. There will be some.

[John]

Which other club, through a takeover, has managed to successfully expand globally into other markets?

[thenodrog]

Which other club, through a takeover, has managed to successfully expand globally into other markets?

Is that a question John or a riddle?

[John]

Is that a question John or a riddle?

Question, Shah says we could have major impact in India (if he tookover).

Just asking, as there have been a lot of foreign takeovers in the Premier League, which other club has managed to make an impact in another region via their owner?

Also, is there a way through my browser I can filter out the word Vinjay? Everytime I read an article on the net (on this potential takeover) there seems to be a comment from him. Can't handle reading his tripe any longer....

[Steve Moss]

Portsmouth is an extreme example. Bankrolling star players with money they didn't have, while the chief exec pilfered win bonuses. Somehow I can't imagine John Williams doing that. We don't need a pie in the sky owner to come in and splash the cash, so to speak. What we do need is a stable owner who can cover the losses which are forever squeezing the transfer budget. Even an extra £2m-£5m would make a valuable difference.

I absolutely agree that's what we need. My concern is that the alleged value of the Rovers, with land and players, is north of 50 million. If its being sold for 25 million, it's far too easy to see how some shady characters might be interested in acquiring the club for purposes of short term profit. It's a possibility we should not discount.

Having said that, the Trust seems astute and has some good feeling for the Rovers (in that they have not tried to profit off the club for purposes of a quick buck). I'm of the opinion that it will to what it can that any sale is to the right sort of owner, one who has the means and intent to take us into the future in a positive way.

Preliminary indications is that this Indian group might fit the bill. I hope so, anyway.

[Blue n White Rover]

Question, Shah says we could have major impact in India (if he tookover).

Just asking, as there have been a lot of foreign takeovers in the Premier League, which other club has managed to make an impact in another region via their owner?

Also, is there a way through my browser I can filter out the word Vinjay? Everytime I read an article on the net (on this potential takeover) there seems to be a comment from him. Can't handle reading his tripe any longer....

Traveling to the Middle Eastern countries, you could say City have made an impact over there and that could be down to the players they have bought. If this Indian was to buy Rovers, for us to have an impact over there, he would have to buy quality, well known players, which I doubt will happen.

Keith andrews will not go down well in Mumbai

[47er]

Is betting on sporting events a major social and financial issue in that neck of the woods? Yes or No?

I don't know how you would define "major" in this context but those issues are hardly confined to that part of the world are they? I notice you ignored the "major" question I asked you.

[Sandiway Blue]

Traveling to the Middle Eastern countries, you could say City have made an impact over there and that could be down to the players they have bought. If this Indian was to buy Rovers, for us to have an impact over there, he would have to buy quality, well known players, which I doubt will happen.

Keith andrews will not go down well in Mumbai

True but get Beckham in for a season or 2 and that would really open up marketing opportunities in India,Not so much from a footballing point of view,but more for trying to break into a very large untapped market.To be honest there aren`t many better options for what would be a relatively small amount of money.

[47er]

I absolutely agree that's what we need. My concern is that the alleged value of the Rovers, with land and players, is north of 50 million. If its being sold for 25 million, it's far too easy to see how some shady characters might be interested in acquiring the club for purposes of short term profit. It's a possibility we should not discount.

Having said that, the Trust seems astute and has some good feeling for the Rovers (in that they have not tried to profit off the club for purposes of a quick buck). I'm of the opinion that it will to what it can that any sale is to the right sort of owner, one who has the means and intent to take us into the future in a positive way.

Preliminary indications is that this Indian group might fit the bill. I hope so, anyway.

I've already pointed out that the real asking price is 45M with debt.Anyway, no matter how you value the club's assets nobody is going to pay more than the sellers' asking price!

[Wilky]

it seems to me that this shah bloke has got his IPL & EPL mixed up..

he wants to use us to gain a foot hold in cricket... pretty to obvious

[American]

Question, Shah says we could have major impact in India (if he tookover).

Just asking, as there have been a lot of foreign takeovers in the Premier League, which other club has managed to make an impact in another region via their owner?

Also, is there a way through my browser I can filter out the word Vinjay? Everytime I read an article on the net (on this potential takeover) there seems to be a comment from him. Can't handle reading his tripe any longer....

Other clubs are starting to see the economic benefits of expanding into the Asian markets, though. United makes millions every time they go to Asia, Chelsea has expanded their profile there and the example just above of City. Went to see Villa a year back and there were plenty of visitors from the states in the club shop.

I don't think it's just a matter of having a new owner, it's having an owner who has a plan to expand the brand into India and the Asian community in Blackburn. The few times I've run into Asians in Blackburn and discussed football, they have been United supporters. That has to end.

[John]

United and Chelsea have world class players though, and as clubs, already have pretty big profiles.

Of course, just by being Indian, he provides a vehicle for making us more 'known' in that marketplace. However, surely it is too simple a model, or is business really that simple....?

Do we think half of India will start singing going down the Bolton road in a few years time?

[den]

The LT article.

[Dufflite]

Clickety Click Here

This link takes you to a Mumbai newspaper. They seem to know nothing of our mysterious man with a wallet. I find his anonymity veru odd. Successful business folk usually leave a trail.

[Sandiway Blue]

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11676_6202636,00.html

Nothing new added,but I am surprised there has been no comment from Ewood yet.The article does quote Shah as saying they have entered `due dilligence`,is it a case of Shah just gets to look at the books or something else? As I am not from a business background can someone explain how far down the line this has gone? Thanks

[hermitstool]

Not to be petty, but...

You're means you are. Your indicates possesion, and ur is something teenagers write. Don't even get me started on their/there/they're!

BRFC rule1, you're posts are unreadable.

Just take a bit of time to learn how to use the quote facility, than add a bit of punctuation and I'm sure there is a lot of interesting stuff to come from you.

[John]

At least they seem pretty confident and organised that they will need some cash if they take us over....

“We know we would have to come up with some money.

[Majiball]

I don't know how you would define "major" in this context but those issues are hardly confined to that part of the world are they? I notice you ignored the "major" question I asked you.

Do you bet on youth football???

They do in Asia, even via phone, live from the matches in england.

[ewoodpo]

We know very little about this chap however, according to the LT ariticle his uncle is also involved.

Now if this chap is involved he is a very powerful man in India. He has been involved in the cricket scene for a long time .

[47er]

Do you bet on youth football???

They do in Asia, even via phone, live from the matches in england.

I don't bet on anything but plenty on here do.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

Your all digging yourselves an early grave worrying about media hype and speculation. get a grip, England kick off tonight.

Our club is about to be sold to potential new owners with the Walker years seemingly about to come to an end and your more interested in a bunch of playboys in white shirts?.....CLUB BEFORE COUNTRY!

[ewoodpo]

Vinjay really is a tool

http://brfcattitude.footballunited.com/2010/06/12/shah-comments-on-brfc-takeover/

[philipl]

"Nathaniel helped Robinho leave Man City"- says it all really!

[dave birch]

Perhaps we should persuade the Glazers to be rid of Manure and buy us, invest heavily , just to prove a point......

[1864roverite]

I think there is some mileage in Rovers becoming a "big" interest in India. If you look at manure and liverpoo they are both well and truly esconced in the Asian markets through the media and the fact that they have tight links and a massive support base. Add this to the games they play out there preseason and post season.

The Rovers scenario could be a decent thing if this group use the club in a similar vein (I dont think for one minute we are going to be along the lines of either manure or liverpoo btw). Rovers have the chance to become a big fish in the Asian market especaiily with this groups media links and of course the IPL. Looking solely at the tv rights issues, Rovers could well benefit from increased tv revenue should they join the ranks of having their games televised exclusively to Northern India and beyond, I am certain the both Liverpoo and manure benefit from their Asia deals.

Having a bigger Asian following at home would also have a positive knock on effect for the club. Rovers have a good following from our Asian supporters but there could easily be much more. There is still a stigma attached to the club and that stigma is preventing others from coming to Ewood. Maybe if the Shah connection comes through and the deal is done this will help take away the negative stigma in the club and get others coming through the turnstyles. There are a couple of Asian lads who sit near me in the JW Upper and they are fanatical fans, how good would it be to see an extra 1000 fans each game in the ground ?

This story is about BRFC, its fans and the people who love the club, both locally and afar.

I dont like some of the negative sway on this thread and I agree, there are issues which need clarifying and explaining. Fans are always going to be concerned about potential buyers. I say to those fans,wait and see. One thing is for sure we are not going the way of manure or liverpoo with a debt of £850m and £230m respectively. There clearly is a business plan that the Shah group can stick to and I dont see Mr Williams being pushed away from the club. He is the pivot head of our club and he is the man who can be trusted to ensure continuity within the club whoever the owner.

There is some doubt but I am certain the trust knows what it is doing.