[Archived] Rovers Might Have Been Sold?

[vintageadidas]

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I do not believe for one minute that we will have an influx of Asian fans into Ewood Park on the back of an Indian taking over our club. As mentioned wihtin this thread there is a racist element amongst our fans and i have Asian friends who simply believe Blackburn Rovers is for the white people of our town. Stupid you say? I doubt it, the divide between our town is a large as i have ever seen it!

[Kelbo]

You could swap the term "Asian population" and "English" around in that sentance and it would be just as true.

I came on here for news on the transfer and now feel a shamed to be a Rovers fan due to a few bad apples

I really do hope you are not calling me a bad apple, i do ask you for an apology!

[thenodrog]

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I do not believe for one minute that we will have an influx of Asian fans into Ewood Park on the back of an Indian taking over our club. As mentioned wihtin this thread there is a racist element amongst our fans and i have Asian friends who simply believe Blackburn Rovers is for the white people of our town. Stupid you say? I doubt it, the divide between our town is a large as i have ever seen it!

I say yes it is stupid VA. Any divide is now of your asian friends making. can you not see that it is they who are making the distinction between skin colour. I hope you see fit to tell em so.

[vintageadidas]

I say yes it is stupid VA. Any divide is now of your asian friends making. can you not see that it is they who are making the distinction between skin colour. I hope you see fit to tell em so.

I certainly have no disagreement with your statement that it is in fact my friends who are creating the divide; I have not told them this – I am pretty sure they know! I believe these thoughts are prevalent within our Asian community, especially the 18-30 year olds.

It is pretty common for both Asian and White people within Blackburn to have not a single friend of a the opposite race. This is extremely poor when you consider that the town is split pretty much 50 / 50!

I do not want to get into a racial debate but I was very interested that they believed “Blackburn Rovers to be for them” (the white people of Blackburn)

[47er]

We tinker with race on this MB. Certain people imply something but pull back when challenged. It makes me very uneasy. Peddle this sort of stuff on the BNP's sites I say.

Back on topic---if Shah and his colleagues have enough money and convince the Trust about their plans and motivation then I for one will be ecstatic. And I couldn't care less where the new owners come from, what colour they are and what religion they follow. Football and sport generally can and has brought people of vastly different backgrounds together. Its a force for good if you let it be.

[Veevs]

Am I on the wrong thread? Is this about racism now or about a business chap purchasing rovers?

Frankly I am in two minds in regards to the takeover mainly down to the fact this chap appears to be an unknown quantity even in his own country. Still from the looks of his profiles online he has been involved in allot of entreprenaur work and well seems to know what sort of person to get in to help him (Chris Nathaniel has been around quiet a bit and seemingly has a good rep).

[den]

This could go on the transfer thread as well, but this bit is interesting:

"A list of alternative targets has though been drawn up should the club come into money either through transfers or new investment, but Rovers will not put everything on hold in the hope a takeover does go through. "

LT.

[BPF]

This could go on the transfer thread as well, but this bit is interesting:

"A list of alternative targets has though been drawn up should the club come into money either through transfers or new investment, but Rovers will not put everything on hold in the hope a takeover does go through. "

LT.

has though been drawn up?

What an odd sentence.

[47er]

This could go on the transfer thread as well, but this bit is interesting:

"A list of alternative targets has though been drawn up should the club come into money either through transfers or new investment, but Rovers will not put everything on hold in the hope a takeover does go through. "

LT.

That is interesting indeed Den. The sort of news we hoped for really. Without a Grella sale and without a takeover, the manager has 2.25M to spend on new players! Its laughable isn't it?

PS--Vinjay first to reply!

[Veevs]

This could go on the transfer thread as well, but this bit is interesting:

"A list of alternative targets has though been drawn up should the club come into money either through transfers or new investment, but Rovers will not put everything on hold in the hope a takeover does go through. "

LT.

Also interesting to see that one of the quotes in regards to Blackburn takeover was from Shah’s uncle Niranjan, cricket’s Indian Premier League deputy chairman, he revealed to the Lancashire Telegraph funds would be available to strengthen the squad if their bid was a success... which must mean he is at least partially involved in this takeover.

Considering Chris Nathaniel has also been tasked with coming up with a proposal for an IPL style football league for India... hmm wonder if that has any relation to us lot (purchase a team from the EPL to backup the production of a new football league in india etc).

[thenodrog]

That is interesting indeed Den. The sort of news we hoped for really. Without a Grella sale and without a takeover, the manager has 2.25M to spend on new players! Its laughable isn't it?

It's also why we have virtually no debt and are widely perceived as a very well run club and a model for others of similar status to follow.

[47er]

It's also why we have virtually no debt and are widely perceived as a very well run club and a model for others of similar status to follow.

Everything is relative I suppose. Our debt is 9 X our transfer kitty! If you consider our debt to be small what best describes our transfer budget? Miniscule?

[Athlete]

I'd prefer to stay as we are a very well run club and a credit to those whom run it ...than become a circus like Hearts for example orwhen it turns sour or a rich foreigner wants his money back we become skink pompey style !

[braddock]

I'd prefer to stay as we are a very well run club and a credit to those whom run it ...than become a circus like Hearts for example orwhen it turns sour or a rich foreigner wants his money back we become skink pompey style !

i don't know a single person who doesn't agree with this post but you are aware those aren't the only two options aren't you?

[Iceman]

Careful Iceman or that chip on your shoulder will fall off. Your comments are straight from the heart I know but truth is imo that colour is hardly an issue these days.** This isn't South Africa it's Blackburn It's the culture and religion of Islam that provides the divide and drives in the wedge over here.

** btw I advise against testing that skin colour theory with a claret and blue spray tan.

If im reading right, you are blaming the religion of Islam for the divide? Im muslim, btw so ill leave it at that.

[Sandiway Blue]

Everything is relative I suppose. Our debt is 9 X our transfer kitty! If you consider our debt to be small what best describes our transfer budget? Miniscule?

I think the finances are geared for if the unthinkable happened,if we were to be relegated yes we would have to release high earning players,but at least we would be able to still run reasonably well as a club and be able to keep the core of the playing staff.Compare this to the fate of clubs like Hull and Pompey this summer whereby everybody bar the tealady will be up for grabs,then yes the debt is very small indeed.

[gumboots]

I can't believe this thread has ended up being about the creed, colour, race or anything else of potential owners. who cares? The questions we need to ask is do they actually have the money needed or access to it without plunging us into the kind of debt that is crippling other clubs, and are they fit and proper persons i.e. are they honest and have they come by the cash in a reasonably honest fashion rather than in some underhand or shady way, as was the case with certain other club owners. Beyond that I don't really care. I don't think the possible take over by an Indian will of itself bring the majority of the town's Asian heritage population who enjoy football to Ewood because it will take a long time to persuade kids particularly that Rovers are not rubbish, shich is the general response when you say you are a Rovers fan. I don't think either it will drive away the majority of current fans either. Have City's fans all walked out because their club belongs to an Arab family. Of course not. Nor have many local residents of Arab extraction suddenly become fans, and I doubt whether Jewish fans have walked out on them either. It's not about that. Or it shlouldn't be. It should be about is this a good deal to move the club forward and help us to progress. It should be about business albeit I'd prefer that to be ethical rather than dodgy, But that should be our primary concern. The club may change over the next 10 or 20 years but then things that don't fossilise.

[BRFC95]

I can't believe this thread has ended up being about the creed, colour, race or anything else of potential owners. who cares?

If this quote from our potential new owner, linked from Sky Sports a few pages back, is correct, then Mr Shah brought up the racial issue and it is obviously on his mind.

"There are many Indian and Pakistani people in Lancashire. So the interest is natural."

[Fife Rover]

I can't believe this thread has ended up being about the creed, colour, race or anything else of potential owners. who cares? The questions we need to ask is do they actually have the money needed or access to it without plunging us into the kind of debt that is crippling other clubs, and are they fit and proper persons i.e. are they honest and have they come by the cash in a reasonably honest fashion rather than in some underhand or shady way, as was the case with certain other club owners. Beyond that I don't really care. I don't think the possible take over by an Indian will of itself bring the majority of the town's Asian heritage population who enjoy football to Ewood because it will take a long time to persuade kids particularly that Rovers are not rubbish, shich is the general response when you say you are a Rovers fan. I don't think either it will drive away the majority of current fans either. Have City's fans all walked out because their club belongs to an Arab family. Of course not. Nor have many local residents of Arab extraction suddenly become fans, and I doubt whether Jewish fans have walked out on them either. It's not about that. Or it shlouldn't be. It should be about is this a good deal to move the club forward and help us to progress. It should be about business albeit I'd prefer that to be ethical rather than dodgy, But that should be our primary concern. The club may change over the next 10 or 20 years but then things that don't fossilise.

Spot on Gumboots. You have summed up nicely all the things that really matter in the takeover of our beloved Rovers (or indeed of ANY club). I trust all the Rovers side in this matter to look throroughly into everything before allowing any takeover to go ahead, and I also know that even if the Walker family were minded to just get rid to any bidder ASAP (which I do not believe they are) they would be prevented by the terms of the Walker Trust from doing so without first ensuring that ALL Jack's stipulations were fully complied with. So I believe we can all relax and let things take their course.

[Grabbi Graeme]

PS--Vinjay first to reply!

Luv the comment from somebody on there, "Same old Vinjay the cup is always half empty"

[gumboots]

If this quote from our potential new owner, linked from Sky Sports a few pages back, is correct, then Mr Shah brought up the racial issue and it is obviously on his mind.

"There are many Indian and Pakistani people in Lancashire. So the interest is natural."

He may feel he's found an untapped market, which he has, and he may feel that he has more chance of feeling at home and finding acceptance here than at some other clubs but to be quite frank, if some of the reaction on here is anything to go by, I'm not sure he has. I work in a multi ethnic school. We don't have any real problems because we don't allow racism in any form. We treat all pupils the same and any comments about a person's colour or religion are promptly dealt with, whether they are indian against pakistani, Pakistani against white kids, white kids who have always lived in Blackburn against those who have come from Poland or somewhere else in the EU in recent years. ALL are human beings who deserve to give and receive respect and it appals me that there are those even on here who are questioning this guy's potential ownership on the grounds of his Indian nationality and heritage. He brought up the fact that there are Indian and pakistani families here, yes, but i don't think that was racially motivated in any way, just that he sees a link.

[Claytons Left Boot]

Compare this to the fate of clubs like Hull and Pompey this summer whereby everybody bar the tealady will be up for grabs,then yes the debt is very small indeed.

Just been on Sky News - Hull's tea lady has gone to Leeds.

[BRFC95]

He may feel he's found an untapped market......

I just found his statement (if true) very unusual, the like of which I've never come across before from the potential buyer of a football club.

[PAFELL]

i don`t mind asian fans supporting the rovers at ewood, the more the merrier as we need more support, but i don`t want rovers to become a club for asian fans that white people are welcome to come along and support. that would be changing the dynamic of the club completely and would be betraying it`s history beyond belief. i`m certain if that came about, fans who have supported the club as it currently is for generations wouldn`t be happy one bit and could vote with their feet.

at the moment it`s a case of wait and see but going off the comments of these potential buyers there is reason to be a bit concerned as to their intentions.

Pathetic post and over the top in my view. Something that would never happen. But even if it did, that should not be a reason to stop supporting a football club. You are either a Rovers supporter, or you are not. Should not depend on what colour/ race/religion the owners or the supporters are.

[Gav]

I can't believe this thread has ended up being about the creed, colour, race or anything else of potential owners.

You've been around long enough now to know that certain posters on here have hidden agendas, so this should come as no surprise gumboots.