[Archived] Rovers Might Have Been Sold?

[Athlete]

i don't know a single person who doesn't agree with this post but you are aware those aren't the only two options aren't you?

agree ...all for investment but at what price ? as stated we are one of the very best run clubs around OK never gonna break the big clubs monopoly but who are ???

[Iceman]

Just been on Sky News - Hull's tea lady has gone to Leeds.

[gumboots]

You've been around long enough now to know that certain posters on here have hidden agendas, so this should come as no surprise gumboots.

Perhaps it shouldn't but racist or "whatever else you want to call it" rubbish always still has the power to shock me. I can think of all sorts of reasons for judging people but something like the colour of their skin is not and never should be one of them.

[DanLad]

Just been on Sky News - Hull's tea lady has gone to Leeds.

Why were we not linked with Hull's tea lady?

If we had a bit of investment then we could operate in these vaunted circles, but as it is we are PL paupers.

That said I've heard that Hull's tea lady has already expressed disappointment at the biscuits that she's now going to have to operate with. In fact, I've heard that she's already stated that she considers this move to be a stepping stone to a bigger tea-drinking club, or maybe even a continental coffeee drinking club.

Her agent got quite a big slice of the cake, too.

[BlueMonday]

Just been on Sky News - Hull's tea lady has gone to Leeds.

Hope she has a buy out clause in her contract

[JC4LAB]

Theres lots of Asian stewards and staff inc high ranking ones there every game at Ewood.Cant say we are not an intergrated club in that respect...One small point...Wonder what would become of the catering?Would we go Halal?Good bye Hollands Pies..Hello samosas for half time

[modes98]

If this quote from our potential new owner, linked from Sky Sports a few pages back, is correct, then Mr Shah brought up the racial issue and it is obviously on his mind.

"There are many Indian and Pakistani people in Lancashire. So the interest is natural."

I would hardly say thats a racial issue, he is just setting out his intention to increase potential revenues by targeting a specfic market which we haven't paid attention to in the past. Whether or not it is a good business decision is far enough to discuss but as to racial prejudice and slurs, etc then they should be kept far away from this debate. Will it work? I think our attendances would increase, I don't think we'll be building a 100,000 seater stadium but I think there would be an increase and a positive affect for the club.

If this man can meet all the conditions set out the will, has the money and a competent business model then I am all for it. Regardless of what faith the guy is he is really the only prospect we have, or have had in the past 5 years, of getting some funding through to improve the team.

[trueblue]

I despair at times on this message board I really do.. It's a FOOTBALL message board! get it! take all the flaming race debates elsewhere please and lets get back to discussing what this board is meant to be about.... BLACKBURN ROVERS!

[Moppy]

I really do hope you are not calling me a bad apple, i do ask you for an apology!

The comments were independent. Hence seperate paras (even if just one sentance). You dont state if you accept the sentance is valid both ways around.

So which applies to you?

1. If you agree the sentance works both way round, it doesnt apply to you so no need for an apology as its not aimed at posters like you.
   If you think the sentance only works the originally way round then it does apply, and no apology as was aimed at posters like you and I stand by the comment.
   

If your the first then I apologies for the mis-understanding but not the comment as the number of racist/culturist posts on here is sad.

[Veevs]

Wish this topic would return to what its really about... personally being associated with a group of business types from India (one at least of whome has been involved in the fastest growing sports events for over 50 years.. namely the IPL which in two seasons has gained some 230m unique viewers and sold TV rights to Sony for 1 Billion dollars for 10 years) to me is a good thing.

These guys know sports in India, they must see a market out there.. and they have enlisted the help of a top agent and named figure to help with the bid.. so obviously they are pretty serious.

At least with a bid on the table other interested parties who have done nothing yet may actually get themselves bidding and progress a long overdue need to change ownership of the club.

Sure its a risk.. but as JW and many articles have pouinted out (including many of us) the JW trust simply ran out of funds a while back and we cant progress beyond our current level.. hell we are a small town club punching over its weight with a 2.5m transfer kitty for a top 10 club!!!

Remember Nathenial is also working on a football league for india in the same realm as the IPL.. there are too many coincidences for this to be unrelated Nathenial running the bid here, who happens to be doing an indian football league along the lines of the IPL and shahs uncle who is deputy chairman of the IPL and has already talked about how he knows we will need funding to be more competitive).

Personally I would love to of seen a true blackburn fan run the club.. but there are not that many out there with the financial clout...

Lets at least not try to put them off with random potentially racist comments on here.. Nicko mentioned a while back he thought at least one of the prospective buyers was reading this forum.. lets hope they are not reading some of the darker elements like implied racism.

[andymo]

I despair at times on this message board I really do.. It's a FOOTBALL message board! get it! take all the flaming race debates elsewhere please and lets get back to discussing what this board is meant to be about.... BLACKBURN ROVERS!

we have been crying out for someone to put a chunk of money into the club as soon as someone with realmoney shows an interest all hell lets loose,if this bidder is serious all will be revealled shortly we all want the best for the club on and off the pitch, were this group is from doesnt really matter,we want to fill the ground with more people because we play better football with better players not because they come from a new footballing continent,watch this space it could be great for us!!!!

[Kelbo]

The comments were independent. Hence seperate paras (even if just one sentance). You dont state if you accept the sentance is valid both ways around.

So which applies to you?

1. If you agree the sentance works both way round, it doesnt apply to you so no need for an apology as its not aimed at posters like you.
   If you think the sentance only works the originally way round then it does apply, and no apology as was aimed at posters like you and I stand by the comment.
   

If your the first then I apologies for the mis-understanding but not the comment as the number of racist/culturist posts on here is sad.

Equality is the key and it must work both ways, yes I am in agreement, it does work both ways, however, I will PM you wirh some quite amazing facts!

[Mattyblue]

There is a divide. No question about it. Unfortunately there is a very small number of people in the terraces who spurt racist remarks at black players. Quite simply it's small-town xenophobe mentality. I don't believe this represents the majority of us but, at least as far as football is concerned, to say that the divide is caused more by the Asian contingency than the white contingency is simply untrue.

People like that make others unwelcome. Word spreads. People don't go. They stay at home, watch footy on TV and end up supporting the more attractive teams. It's that simple.

Going to watch Rovers at Ewood, if your face doesn't fit, is a clique business.

I really did not want to mention race at all. All I'm interested in is DO THEY HAVE THE BRASS

But it is not 'that simple' at all.

Nothing would solve Blackburn's divisions more than seeing the asian population supporting their local club.

The Muslims of Blackburn support Man Utd and Liverpool in large numbers because their father and grandfather did when they moved over here- they were attracted to their success as Rovers were struggling.

It is bloody nothing to do with them feeling 'threatened', Ive asked plenty of Asian lads, the response I get is 'Blackburn are crap mate'.

So leave your liberal nonsensical statements on ICBINF.

[braddock]

it always makes me smile when i read the word liberal used as a negative.

so has anything new come out or are people STILL talking about race?

[Paul]

Good bye Hollands Pies..Hello samosas for half time

If we can get something decent to eat at half-time it'll get my vote........sounds like an excellent first move.

[47er]

You've been around long enough now to know that certain posters on here have hidden agendas, so this should come as no surprise gumboots.

Sad but true Den. Lets hope that any prospective buyer reading this MB realises that most of us are not like that.

[67splitscreen]

Sad but true Den. Lets hope that any prospective buyer reading this MB realises that most of us are not like that.

IMO, they would have been totally gob smacked if they had found no resistance or concerns of any kind.

[Ste B]

I despair at times on this message board I really do.. It's a FOOTBALL message board! get it! take all the flaming race debates elsewhere please and lets get back to discussing what this board is meant to be about.... BLACKBURN ROVERS!

And any more discussions that are not totally football related now will result in posters taking a few days away.

[bluebruce]

It is bloody nothing to do with them feeling 'threatened', Ive asked plenty of Asian lads, the response I get is 'Blackburn are crap mate'.

So leave your liberal nonsensical statements on ICBINF.

And do you really think young lads, or in fact most men, are likely to turn around and tell you, "I'm crapping myself mate"? Bravado, pride and ego typically prevents this. People put up a front when they don't want to say something else, and that's the easiest one to use. I've heard enough racism at Ewood to make me think that, if I was Asian or black, I would surely think twice about going. I'd imagine I still would, but can equally imagine others won't.

And I agree with Braddock, it's comical to use liberal as an insult.

I also agree with those who've said we should keep the race out of it in many ways (despite what I've just said myself), but I do think there are certain key issues with "race" involved here that this takeover bid brings up. There is a largely (but not completely) untapped Asian market for football in Blackburn, Darwen, and surrounding towns. And the prospective new owners are interested in bolstering our presence there, and in their native country. To brush those facts under the carpet would be too P.C. for this "liberal" fella.

Edit- Uh, in reference to Ste B, I did start writing that before I saw your post!

[Mc Love]

I have just been talking with one of the Indian lads that I work with who is situated in Hyderabad and he has heard of him, albeit through his uncle Niranjan Shah.

He is telling me he could have the backing of Lalit Modi (a big industrialist - one of richest in India)

[iamarover]

I have just been talking with one of the Indian lads that I work with who is situated in Hyderabad and he has heard of him, albeit through his uncle Niranjan Shah.

He is telling me he could have the backing of Lalit Modi (a big industrialist - one of richest in India)

No he isn't. But if he is giving any backing at all to the Shah bid, then there is, as they say, Trouble at t' Mill.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Lalit-Modi-involved-in-betting-murky-deals-I-T-report/articleshow/5830420.cms

My Mumbai office have never heard of Shah, and his Uncle who is Deputy Chairman of the IPL, is influential but not rich at all. If Lalit is involved, then very soon the sound of rupees being laundered in the Ewood wash room will echo across a wasted land where honest folk used to watch football.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lalit_Modi

Beware of Sikhs bringing gifts my friends.

[RoversSG]

If this bid goes through. I'm not sure how many Rovers game are shown in India but i hope it'll stir up more more interest there which could translate to more shirt-sales, sponsorship etc. I remember reading somewhere that Shelfield United increased their profile in China and became one of the most popular team in Chengdu (or some other city) when they had a tie-up with the local team. We just need to attract 1% of Indian football fans and I'm sure revenue from shirt-sales alone will double

[Mc Love]

From talking to my colleague in India, it will be some job trying to increase footballs appeal there as first and foremost Cricket is the number one sport. Nobody knows anything about footy.

[philipl]

The fact football is so unappreciated in India gives a slight chance to anyone who is trying to launch a brand that is anything other than Man U.

JW's full interview has not been given the prominence it deserved

That clearly indicates that the club believes it can continue producing European-qualifying performances over the next three seasons under the current set-up.

That is the benchmark any buyer has to beat consistently over the medium to long term.

[Torgeir]

The fact football is so unappreciated in India gives a slight chance to anyone who is trying to launch a brand that is anything other than Man U.

We can start playing with bats if that helps too!