[Archived] Rovers Might Have Been Sold?

[den]

The mission statement of the Trust is surely "To provide appropriate funding to keep Blackburn Rovers safely in the Premier League and, if deemed beneficial for the club, to sell to a sincere external party".

Only the trustees know ET. Everyone can have a guess.

I very much doubt, as people seem to want to believe, that Jack would enforce something along the lines of "You must provide £20m during each transfer window" and that the Trust are betraying his wishes.

Never seen anyone suggesting that's the case.

[den]

Well... it's the people who are saying "this isn't what Jack intended".

Well I've been saying that ET, but that doesn't mean I think they should donate a huge sum every year.

I just don't think it was in the plans to withdraw funding completely. But, I don't know and that's the bottom line.

[47er]

Put it back in the context I've pointed out.

I was speaking about myself and the others who are of the same mind in wishing to stick up for the trust and what they have done for the club to date.

Since you say your sticking up for the trust I'd like to draw your attention the the below:

Hardly flattering towards them.

See above.

Ditto.

And then you claim to be sticking up for them? And I'm the hysterical one?

Iamrover wrote a great post about the trust you should re-read it as opposed to just dismissing it out of hand as you did. Jack wanted the club to be able to stand on its own to feet and for the most part it does, dream realised.

The point I was making was that the time of the Trust has run its course. Those earlier comments were directly aimed at those who seemed to think that we could just carry on as if they didn't want to sell us.I'm grateful for its past efforts but now its over.

I was also pointing out the illogical position of those who say they support the Trust but don't want a sale. Can't have it both ways.I stand by my comments and if you don't agree why should I worry?

[Majiball]

You should worry because they maybe around for while yet.

[Balwer]

You should worry because they maybe around for while yet.

Yeah I read that too, not sure how reliable the guy is with his info though.

[yankrover]

You should worry because they maybe around for while yet.

Is this the only vinjay free Rovers site on the web? He's really everywhere.

[47er]

You should worry because they maybe around for while yet.

We should all worry because we will be relegated as Kevin Gallacher stated in the LT. If Shah is as described in that article then the Trust won't sell to him and that's a good thing. But we will be sold to someone eventually, let's hope its not too late.

On another point I always understood that the 3M per annum that the Trust used to give to the club was meant to be an on-going thing. It was paid while Jack was alive and he explained it as 'compensation" for the fact that we had smaller than average attendances and Jack did also talk about having provided for Rovers "when I'm gone". Even that money would have been invaluable today.

So I agree with Den, I don't think Jack would have wanted all funding cut off. I stress, that's just my opinion.

[JAL]

We should all worry because we will be relegated as Kevin Gallacher stated in the LT. If Shah is as described in that article then the Trust won't sell to him and that's a good thing. But we will be sold to someone eventually, let's hope its not too late.

On another point I always understood that the 3M per annum that the Trust used to give to the club was meant to be an on-going thing. It was paid while Jack was alive and he explained it as 'compensation" for the fact that we had smaller than average attendances and Jack did also talk about having provided for Rovers "when I'm gone". Even that money would have been invaluable today.

So I agree with Den, I don't think Jack would have wanted all funding cut off. I stress, that's just my opinion.

Kevin Gallacher has come out with some crap about Rovers over the past 18 months so dont take Kevin for gospel.

Everyone should ask is John Williams really earning his corn by growing the club?

[Majiball]

We should all worry because we will be relegated as Kevin Gallacher stated in the LT. If Shah is as described in that article then the Trust won't sell to him and that's a good thing. But we will be sold to someone eventually, let's hope its not too late.

On another point I always understood that the 3M per annum that the Trust used to give to the club was meant to be an on-going thing. It was paid while Jack was alive and he explained it as 'compensation" for the fact that we had smaller than average attendances and Jack did also talk about having provided for Rovers "when I'm gone". Even that money would have been invaluable today.

So I agree with Den, I don't think Jack would have wanted all funding cut off. I stress, that's just my opinion.

That's just one ex players opinion, nothing more. He does not have a mystic ball and can no more predict the future than Domenech. yes eventually we will be sold but only and if only all the boxes are ticked, thankfully. People keep saying that it had better happen before its too late, but the Trust have proven they will act should relegation loom, I have faith that they will do so again.

The dream was always self sufficiency so I don't see the constant putting in of money fitting into that, long term. I'm tending to look at it in the manner that to a buyer a club that requires money being put into it every year is less attractive than one that stands alone. I know Jack said that he had provided for us once he had gone but don't forget we spent a lot of money when we came back up which must have come from somewhere? Jack could never have envisaged 100K a week salaries and £80 million pound players, so even if he had left say 30 million or so we could have spent that easily by now.

Would I like to see them put money in? off course. And I'm sure if Jack was around he would put in some, but he's not. Jack was akin to our father and parents always look after there children, no matter what.

If I was the trust looking at our club I would be proud to see what has been achieved with so little in comparison to others, but I also see/believe that it could be so much more as it is. At some stage in every life cycle you must learn to stand alone, to make the best of what you have. This is what we are being asked to do, one cannot progress, develop, whilst being dependent on others. Whether this journey takes us into new stewardship or not who knows, we will see. But as things stand we have security and safety, and if we look like falling we have family to pick us up again.

Most would love to be in our situation.

[47er]

That's just one ex players opinion, nothing more. He does not have a mystic ball and can no more predict the future than Domenech. yes eventually we will be sold but only and if only all the boxes are ticked, thankfully. People keep saying that it had better happen before its too late, but the Trust have proven they will act should relegation loom, I have faith that they will do so again.

The dream was always self sufficiency so I don't see the constant putting in of money fitting into that, long term. I'm tending to look at it in the manner that to a buyer a club that requires money being put into it every year is less attractive than one that stands alone. I know Jack said that he had provided for us once he had gone but don't forget we spent a lot of money when we came back up which must have come from somewhere? Jack could never have envisaged 100K a week salaries and £80 million pound players, so even if he had left say 30 million or so we could have spent that easily by now.

Would I like to see them put money in? off course. And I'm sure if Jack was around he would put in some, but he's not. Jack was akin to our father and parents always look after there children, no matter what.

If I was the trust looking at our club I would be proud to see what has been achieved with so little in comparison to others, but I also see/believe that it could be so much more as it is. At some stage in every life cycle you must learn to stand alone, to make the best of what you have. This is what we are being asked to do, one cannot progress, develop, whilst being dependent on others. Whether this journey takes us into new stewardship or not who knows, we will see. But as things stand we have security and safety, and if we look like falling we have family to pick us up again.

Most would love to be in our situation.

OK lets make peace on this:I am equally proud of what we continue to achieve with so little in comparison to others.

However this was achieved in a certain way which was and is unacceptable to many supporters, such that people were calling for the manager's head and talking about not renewing their season tickets.

The question is-----how long can we go on doing it? If we face relegation you believe the Trust will step in at the last minute and save us. Suppose they don't? Suppose they do too late and we go down anyway?

Doesn't seem to be an ideal way to run a football club to me.

In the final analysis we are all diehard Rovers fans and want the best for our club.

[Majiball]

OK lets make peace on this:I am equally proud of what we continue to achieve with so little in comparison to others.

However this was achieved in a certain way which was and is unacceptable to many supporters, such that people were calling for the manager's head and talking about not renewing their season tickets.

The question is-----how long can we go on doing it? If we face relegation you believe the Trust will step in at the last minute and save us. Suppose they don't? Suppose they do too late and we go down anyway?

Doesn't seem to be an ideal way to run a football club to me.

In the final analysis we are all diehard Rovers fans and want the best for our club.

OK to the first part, but I'm not completely understanding were paragraph two comes from? I'm guessing your referring to the style of play?

We will continue to do it for as long as we can, or until we find someone who can carry it on.

Don't forget JW was all for giving Ince more time and it was the Trust who stepped in and said no. Would we have survived if he had had two-three more games? They acted when others wouldn't.

I would say there is no ideal way to run a football club and the way we run our club currently would not be mine.

[thenodrog]

However this was achieved in a certain way which was and is unacceptable to many supporters, such that people were calling for the manager's head and talking about not renewing their season tickets.

Happens all the time.. even at Man Utd and Lpool. point being our support recently has undeniably been on the up so I'm not sure that your claim above is valid and not just fabricated to suit your stance.

[47er]

Happens all the time.. even at Man Utd and Lpool. point being our support recently has undeniably been on the up so I'm not sure that your claim above is valid and not just fabricated to suit your stance.

Now that is just plain dumb. You and I were 2 of the few defending Sam's managership in those difficult times around January. I've supported the manager from Day 1 and never faltered. The football we play is often boring but necessary given the weaknesses in the squad. However we improved as the year went on and as the young ones came good .I'm not making any claims other than OTHER people on here grumbled about the style of play and the manager all season, even when we won! That is an undeniable fact. As is people telling us of friends and friends of friends who were turned off and wouldn't be renewing.Even for you that post is utterly untenable and you should apologise.

The same people are among those most strongly wanting the Trust ownership to continue by the way! Rather ironic I think.

[thenodrog]

Now that is just plain dumb.

I disagree.

I think my points are valid and I am amazed that you see fit to object to either.

It might be out with the old and in with the new but attendances were up at Ewood last season and that is fact not an opinion.

Also there is much supporter dissatisfaction and other issues within the walls of Old Trafford ( and indeed Anfield). Why do you think they are all wearing green and yellow? Why do you think FC United was started? Why do you think the Red Knights were dreamt up? Liverpool too have many pressure groups expressing disatisfaction at their club. A quick google throws up Red and White Kop, Spirit of Shankly, ShareLiverpool FC.

Threats of not renewing season tickets are not restricted to clubs like ours.

[unluckymorton]

OK lets make peace on this:I am equally proud of what we continue to achieve with so little in comparison to others.

However this was achieved in a certain way which was and is unacceptable to many supporters, such that people were calling for the manager's head and talking about not renewing their season tickets.

The question is-----how long can we go on doing it? If we face relegation you believe the Trust will step in at the last minute and save us. Suppose they don't? Suppose they do too late and we go down anyway?

Doesn't seem to be an ideal way to run a football club to me.

In the final analysis we are all diehard Rovers fans and want the best for our club.

Talking about not renewing and actually not renewing are two completely different things. I think you will find many have renewed and will carry on renewing season after season, along with threatening not to renew season after season because it will never be good enough for them.

[47er]

I disagree.

I think my points are valid and I am amazed that you see fit to object to either.

It might be out with the old and in with the new but attendances were up at Ewood last season and that is fact not an opinion.

Also there is much supporter dissatisfaction and other issues within the walls of Old Trafford ( and indeed Anfield). Why do you think they are all wearing green and yellow? Why do you think FC United was started? Why do you think the Red Knights were dreamt up? Liverpool too have many pressure groups expressing disatisfaction at their club. A quick google throws up Red and White Kop, Spirit of Shankly, ShareLiverpool FC.

Threats of not renewing season tickets are not restricted to clubs like ours.

For goodness sake! I AGREE WITH YOU!!!! I was trying (badly it seems) to say that although we finished 10th ,plenty of fans on here hated the football we played, said they and/or others weren't renewing and wanted the manager out! I disagreed with them at the time as you did.

Some of those same people now say "we don't need a new owner, the Trust has taken us to top half."

Please read my post properly and reconsider.

[dave birch]

Seems we are back to the Souness days....

"We've got to wee with the willy we've got"

[broadsword]

I'd say it was more of a micro-penis.

[Billy Castell]

What's Lady Gaga got to do with this Bryan? Is he/she taking over Rovers?

[deryck guyler's spoon]

Seems we are back to the Souness days....

"We've got to wee with the willy we've got"

One of the enjoyable past times of the close season is sifting through the transfer thread to see who we might be getting even if some of the speculation is a bit daft. I havn't bothered from one week to the next this year. What's the point? A transfer budget of £2.5m is an absolute joke.

[Iceman]

Jeez, im pulling my hair out at the moment. Its gone quiet on both the takeover, and on the transfer front.

[Gav]

Jeez, im pulling my hair out at the moment. Its gone quiet on both the takeover, and on the transfer front.

You're in Cape Town an your pulling your hair out over the takerover and transfers???

GET A GRIP MAN

[Iceman]

You're in Cape Town an your pulling your hair out over the takerover and transfers???

GET A GRIP MAN

I should have inserted a wink, but hey whatever makes you happy Gav

[Roversboy1972]

I should have inserted a wink, but hey whatever makes you happy Gav

nicko a work mate told me that rovers wont sell to the indains is there any truth in that rumour then alan

[nicko]

nicko a work mate told me that rovers wont sell to the indains is there any truth in that rumour then alan

I think it's at the stage where they are trying to find out if they are Indians or Cowboys...