[Archived] Rovers Might Have Been Sold?

[ada2020]

Not sure why so many on here seem so keen to defame the takeover bid and whoever might or might not be behind it.

As someone stated earlier in this thread, the research is what Rothschilds are being paid to do. I'm fairly sure they will have more thorough methods to follow other than google, facebook and twitter.

[Steve Moss]

Sooner or later when the media packages diminish and everybody's discovered the painful truth that asia is not the land of milk and honey after all the support base will return to a position of greatest significance. And we'll find our true level.

Being a glass half full kind of guy, I think a case could be made that the Rovers are at their "true level". The owners put no money in and take no money out. By contrast, you have clubs whose owners have artifically inflated their purchasing power (Chelsea) and clubs that have artificially reduced it for quick profit/debt reduction purposes (Burnley).

What I found worrying reading today's posts was that we're still 23 million in debt. Is this true? I thought the Santa Cruz monies went toward the debt and the Warnock monies went to cover the operational deficit. In other words, the article should be greatly exaggerating the perilous state of our finances. What do the recent numbers show?

[unclejack28]

However in all articles we have read it does say Saurin is involved in shipping and investment companies. He is a director of Terraa Propex Pvt Ltd which is a company that deals in residential property.

3rd name - http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dir/Saurin/Shah

Terraa - http://www.realestateindia.com/profile/terraa-propex-pvt-ltd-mumbai/

Im just trying to give you as much info as possible that I could find.

[bob fleming]

He's married to a physiotherapist.

Grella will be pleased.

That might scupper the whole deal. He'd never see her. Then again it might seal it.

[modes98]

Our favourite Twit is at it again, presume its just general deals and not to do with us but still entertaining.

nvaent

Been a productive day in the camp deals deals focus,hard work and sacrifice u can do it

[thenodrog]

Not having a go but what do you base that assertion on?

Gut feeling, experience, intuition and above all a healthy dose of cynicism.

[yeti-dog]

Gut feeling, experience, intuition and above all a healthy dose of cynicism.

Nothing very tangible then Gordon....

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

What worries most at this stage is the complete lack of info regarding our prospective new Indian owners...you want some background into this lot and you come up against a wall of silence.

[Brfcrule1]

How many times does it have to be said ok there is not much info out there about this lot but that is rothschild job to vet out the potential new owners that's not for us to investigate. The quote from earlier about people doing checks on Mr Shah on that list there are a fair few Saurin Shah's how do we know which one it is?. All this speculation about how much they are worth, who the other members are is pointless the most important thing is how much they are worth and that will never enter the public domain until the new owners are in place. That is for Rothschild to make the necessary enquiries yes it takes time but with any buy-out you have to take time to check out the individuals. I would say knowing BRFC it is moving along slowly. As for someone contacting a friend on facebook confirming we are in discussions yes we already know that but as for giving out info. on the group people must realise all talks in those mettings are bound by a NDA. So under no circumstances can anyone say anything whatever goes on in those talks will remain private and rightly so. I am sure if there is any news it will enter the public domain as for fishing to find out about these people it is just pie in the sky as it will all be covered by the NDA. We just have to let the relevant people get on with doing their jobs and I am sure they will be thorough in their checks & do their jobs properly.

Sorry Rant over!.

p.s. please everyone just understand these things take time it is not like going to the shop and buying the morning newspaper it takes a little longer than that.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

.....AND BREATHE!

As fans of this great old club we should be entitled to voice opinions and give a damn who is in charge of our club.Yes,its early doors so to speak with this prospective takeover but usually you can find some info about these folks on the net,this Mr Shah does seem a strange low profile character and some!.

[unclejack28]

How many times does it have to be said ok there is not much info out there about this lot but that is rothschild job to vet out the potential new owners that's not for us to investigate. The quote from earlier about people doing checks on Mr Shah on that list there are a fair few Saurin Shah's how do we know which one it is?. All this speculation about how much they are worth, who the other members are is pointless the most important thing is how much they are worth and that will never enter the public domain until the new owners are in place. That is for Rothschild to make the necessary enquiries yes it takes time but with any buy-out you have to take time to check out the individuals. I would say knowing BRFC it is moving along slowly. As for someone contacting a friend on facebook confirming we are in discussions yes we already know that but as for giving out info. on the group people must realise all talks in those mettings are bound by a NDA. So under no circumstances can anyone say anything whatever goes on in those talks will remain private and rightly so. I am sure if there is any news it will enter the public domain as for fishing to find out about these people it is just pie in the sky as it will all be covered by the NDA. We just have to let the relevant people get on with doing their jobs and I am sure they will be thorough in their checks & do their jobs properly.

Sorry Rant over!.

p.s. please everyone just understand these things take time it is not like going to the shop and buying the morning newspaper it takes a little longer than that.

Im Sorry for trying to find out info, Its just odd that Me being in Mumbai don't know anything about this guy. If it were an ambani or tata or someone known I dont think all this would be relevant but because there is so little info out there we as fans should have at least an insight if not all details on who the people our club is talking to at the moment.

[Mc Love]

Shah also has his family company if anyone read through that article

[Brfcrule1]

Uncle Jack28 wrote:I dont think all this would be relevant but because there is so little info out there we as fans should have at least an insight if not all details on who the people our club is talking to at the moment.

You say there is so little info out their,there are half a dozen Saurin Shah's. It must be one of them but speculating will be like finding a needle in a haystack. It could be anyone of them. How many more times we as fans should not have any insight on who the individuals we are talking to. I have said countless times before the details of the consortium who the club are talking to are bound with an NDA= non disclosure agreement. So even if we wanted to know we never will because Rothschilds are hired to find all that out. Hence the reason not much is out there and the reason we will never find out. We just have to trust the club to do the necessary checks I'm sure they know what to do!. Also worth noting rivercider who knew of D.Williams only came out recently with details of D.Williams bid as the NDA only runs out after a few years. So we will not know much anytime soon.

[gumboots]

Uncle Jack28 wrote:I dont think all this would be relevant but because there is so little info out there we as fans should have at least an insight if not all details on who the people our club is talking to at the moment.

You say there is so little info out their,there are half a dozen Saurin Shah's. It must be one of them but speculating will be like finding a needle in a haystack. It could be anyone of them. How many more times we as fans should not have any insight on who the individuals we are talking to. I have said countless times before the details of the consortium who the club are talking to are bound with an NDA= non disclosure agreement. So even if we wanted to know we never will because Rothschilds are hired to find all that out. Hence the reason not much is out there and the reason we will never find out. We just have to trust the club to do the necessary checks I'm sure they know what to do!. Also worth noting rivercider who knew of D.Williams only came out recently with details of D.Williams bid as the NDA only runs out after a few years. So we will not know much anytime soon.

We will know as much as we are entitled to know when the takeover happens, if it does, and that will be fairly soon I would think. Either you're going to sell to these people in which case it can't drag on too long, or you're not, in which case you don't want to spend too long on it. And if it doesn't then we probably don't need to know. We do not own the club. We are fans. It puts us in a unique position of feeling we own the business when actually it's nothing whatsoever to do with us. The trust will sell if the price is right and they feel that any conditions which may have been placed upon them have been met. I don't doubt they'll want to do their best for the club provided that it doesn't interfere with what's best for them but that, I'm afraid is probably the best we can hope for.

[trueblue]

Uncle Jack28 wrote:I dont think all this would be relevant but because there is so little info out there we as fans should have at least an insight if not all details on who the people our club is talking to at the moment.

You say there is so little info out their,there are half a dozen Saurin Shah's. It must be one of them but speculating will be like finding a needle in a haystack. It could be anyone of them. How many more times we as fans should not have any insight on who the individuals we are talking to. I have said countless times before the details of the consortium who the club are talking to are bound with an NDA= non disclosure agreement. So even if we wanted to know we never will because Rothschilds are hired to find all that out. Hence the reason not much is out there and the reason we will never find out. We just have to trust the club to do the necessary checks I'm sure they know what to do!. Also worth noting rivercider who knew of D.Williams only came out recently with details of D.Williams bid as the NDA only runs out after a few years. So we will not know much anytime soon.

Ever thought it may be the 'one' Shah with half a dozen companies

[Iceman]

Our favourite Twit is at it again, presume its just general deals and not to do with us but still entertaining.

What a TWIT

[JAL]

The next owners of Blackburn Rovers football club come from within, or from around these parts, just dont know what the trustees are playing at with this gangster-slumdog talk to these alien outsiders.

[deryck guyler's spoon]

The next owners of Blackburn Rovers football club come from within, or from around these parts, just dont know what the trustees are playing at with this gangster-slumdog talk to these alien outsiders.

Have I missed summat? What are you on about JAL?

[Iceman]

Have I missed summat? What are you on about JAL?

im trying to figure that one out myself. I think Jal wants owners, from within the club or people from in and around Blackburn. Not going to happen im afraid, so this indian consortium is probably the best bet right now, but again im very nervous about it.

[JAL]

Have I missed summat? What are you on about JAL?

From what i've read through this thread about the people supposedly involved in brokering and buying the club, overall, just dont think they are right to take on Rovers. They have no history of running a football club, they are completely detached from European and English football in general, so how on earth are they going to be suitable ownwers.

Their businesses dont come across as transparent so how can they be suitable, its beginning to come across as a stalling device to control the immediate overspend of the club and prevent the manager from spending any further money.

[Iceman]

From what i've read through this thread about the people supposedly involved in brokering and buying the club, overall, just dont think they are right to take on Rovers. They have no history of running a football club, they are completely detached from European and English football in general, so how on earth are they going to be suitable ownwers.

Their businesses dont come across as transparent so how can they be suitable, its beginning to come across as a stalling device to control the immediate overspend of the club and prevent the manager from spending any further money.

ive thought about it, and at one stage came to the same conclusion. It could easily end up that way, by the time the transfer window closes, then the takeover deal collapses. By that time, Sam would have no time to get a player/s in, and will just end up with Benjani. However, i doubt that will be the case, because the club know they will only be screwing themselves. JW and the rest of the Trustees, will either end it early, to give Sam enough time to get players in, or the takeover will happen.

[deryck guyler's spoon]

From what i've read through this thread about the people supposedly involved in brokering and buying the club, overall, just dont think they are right to take on Rovers. They have no history of running a football club, they are completely detached from European and English football in general, so how on earth are they going to be suitable ownwers.

Their businesses dont come across as transparent so how can they be suitable, its beginning to come across as a stalling device to control the immediate overspend of the club and prevent the manager from spending any further money.

It appears that there are no other Rovers fans or groups of Rovers fans with the wherewithall to take the club forward. There's only one Jack Walker.

We dont know what plan the Indians have for the club. I did see sometime ago a table showing the worldwide support for the Premier League clubs. Obviously we were near the bottom but I was surprised to see that we have an estimated 1/4 million "fans" worldwide. Given India's burgeoning economy, future projected status as an economical world super power and it's huge population maybe the Shah consortium have a workable plan. Some posters on here with a knowledge of India reckon there is a huge market for football particlarly The Premier League. It might make sense to jump aboard India's bandwagon and become "India's team". It's down to Rothchilds to sus out whether Mr Shah is a viable owner of the club.

To me we can stay with The Walker Trust who want rid and inevitably we slide out of the top flight or we take a gamble on a consortium who may "do a Pompey" which sees us slide out of the top flight or which might just work out in which case it's "sky is the limit"

[unluckymorton]

From what i've read through this thread about the people supposedly involved in brokering and buying the club, overall, just dont think they are right to take on Rovers. They have no history of running a football club, they are completely detached from European and English football in general, so how on earth are they going to be suitable ownwers.

Their businesses dont come across as transparent so how can they be suitable, its beginning to come across as a stalling device to control the immediate overspend of the club and prevent the manager from spending any further money.

There is no transfer embargo, it is the same in every transfer window, everything moves slowly (whilst everybody on this messageboard panics) then Sam signs a couple of his targets. When Sam finds the right man that is affordable to Rovers then he will sign him. I have every faith that Sam and his management team are in discussion with players and their advisor's regarding possible deals. If the likes of Banjoni is one of them so be it, if our manager see's him as a piece of the jigsaw that will do for me as the signings he has made since he came to our club have been good additions to the squad.

Whoever comes in to take the club over will not be doing it for free, they will not be gifting any money to Rovers. They will spend what the club can afford to spend due to the take over being for financial gain and not necessarily to take us to the next level. There will not be any £20m strikers, we will not all of a sudden be challenging the top teams to sign players. It will be somebody to come in to make the club more profitable for their own good.

If they come in throwing ridiculous amounts of money around for players then I will be extremely worried because there is no way they will recoup the money from a club like ours. See Portsmouth for example.

[gumboots]

From what i've read through this thread about the people supposedly involved in brokering and buying the club, overall, just dont think they are right to take on Rovers. They have no history of running a football club, they are completely detached from European and English football in general, so how on earth are they going to be suitable ownwers.

Their businesses dont come across as transparent so how can they be suitable, its beginning to come across as a stalling device to control the immediate overspend of the club and prevent the manager from spending any further money.

I can't believe I'm reading this. Where do you honestly think we are going to find anyone with the cash and the desire to buy Rovers locally? We've been on the market for 3 years at least now. Don't you think if there was anyone out there remotely interested we'd have new owners already. Staying as we are is NOT an option because the current owners want to sell. If we don't get new owners then Allardyce has already been told exactly what cash there is and it's minimal so why stop his spending it? The World Cup has menat that the market is slow. The fact that most of our bigger clubs aren't spending means the market is slow. The fact that most clubs have got their decent players on longish contracts means they can play hard ball and not sell unless you offer them some vast sum and most clubs can't afford that so the market is slow. Clubs are getting brinkmanship down to a fine art and delaying purchases till the optimum moment so the market is slow.

And what has the sale of the club got to do with whether we like it or don't like it? If they want to sell to the Indian consortium or the man in the moon, there is nothing we can do about it. It's their club to do what they want with. All we have a right to expect is that they protect the club as far as possible by doing the checks before selling and that's why they employ Rothschilds. They don't care about the club as a vehicle for fans enjoyment. They care about business and maximising their assets and if they feel the sale to the Indians is right, they'll do it.

[Mr. E]

And what has the sale of the club got to do with whether we like it or don't like it? If they want to sell to the Indian consortium or the man in the moon, there is nothing we can do about it. It's their club to do what they want with. All we have a right to expect is that they protect the club as far as possible by doing the checks before selling and that's why they employ Rothschilds. They don't care about the club as a vehicle for fans enjoyment. They care about business and maximising their assets and if they feel the sale to the Indians is right, they'll do it.

You know, you say this not only as if it's the truth, but that there's nothing wrong with that and we should just accept it.

But it's a disgrace. It's a spit in the face of the values this sport used to have, it's a spit in the face of Blackburn Rovers, Jack Walker, all the players who gave their blood and sweat for the shirt throughout the years, and all the fans who screamed their throats out for the club. They did not do so so that "some business can maximize their assets". They did not do so so that the fans would become just another financial statistic with no say whatsoever what happens to their club, completely helpless in the hands of businessmen and lawyers who couldn't give the slightest damn about the club.

What is the point of football if we allow it become, as it mostly already has, just another soulless commodity?