[Archived] Premier League Money Thread

[Hughesy]

Probably about time we had a thread to keep all the financial type things in 1 place.

Sky told to Cut Sky Sports prices

No saying what this will do for the premier league money offered by TV firms - will it reduce the amount we can expect in a few years time, or will it simply expand the market and allow for higher bids next time around?

New TV Deal - Worth an extra £7-8m per season, per club

The article basically going on about how the Champs will now recieve £60m, and the minimum for being in the league is £40m.

Parachute payments extended for 2 years (£8m per season), and the initial 2 years goes to £16m per season too!

Im not 100% certain but wasnt there also a few other new deals that would see us get more money from next season? Like Internet rights or something like that?

[Guest Kamy100]

The foreign broadcasting rights deal is as per what Hughesy said, which guarantees £40 million for each club next season. This figure is going to get higher as the Premier League is still negotiating 2 further foreign TV rights with certain countries. I think the Internet rights etc were sorted out last year.

[philipl]

The Ofcom ruling is not as bad as first thought.

23.4% reduction in Sky prices requested So the increases in overseas rights values for the PL will probably be offset by the reduction in British values over time.

[Hughesy]

Will the values to the UK rights not increase aswell?

I dont have sky-sports because I refuse to pay £37 for the sports - however if this came down to say £25 - I would expect many more would purchase sky, as I would!

[Exiled_Rover]

It all goes into the players' pockets anyway.

[Paul]

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[jodrell]

How the Bundesliga puts the Premier League to shame

something on the same thing was posted, but this is a bit more up to date.

[cn174]

How the Bundesliga puts the Premier League to shame

something on the same thing was posted, but this is a bit more up to date.

^^ Just correcting your link

[Hughesy]

Potential problems are occuring in the lower leagues. Looks like the football league is getting greedy!

The premier league gives them money each year (which they dont have to) - they have offered to increase parachute payments from £23.4m to £48m (DONT FORGET they are split amongst the rest if any of those clubs goes back up). Under those plans - £32m (west Brom & Newcastle) cash would be split amongst the rest next season alone.

They have offered to bump the money the give each championship club from 800k to £2.2m, league 1 clubs 350k from 103k, and league 2 clubs 250k from 103k - yet the clubs have rejected it!!!

The premier league has given the football league a 3 week deadline to accept - otherwise they will either keep the money as it is, or pull it out totally....leaving Championship clubs (who voted 23/24 for the changes) in limbo & potentially considering a Premier league 2.

English football on verge of civil war?

Premier League make payments threat to Football League

[thenodrog]

Things will have to change. 92 is way too many clubs. The 'charity' payments from the Prem must not be making up for the overall drop in income in the lower leagues. Main cause is that the transfer money is drying up as the stupid money that the big 4 regularly blew has all but ended and is is not percolating through the divisions anymore.

[jodrell]

Things will have to change. 92 is way too many clubs. The 'charity' payments from the Prem must not be making up for the overall drop in income in the lower leagues. Main cause is that the transfer money is drying up as the stupid money that the big 4 regularly blew has all but ended and is is not percolating through the divisions anymore.

It’s not only the big 4 the majority of the premier league clubs are not spending on British talent. But most of the money is going to foreign clubs.

[LeChuck]

Potential problems are occuring in the lower leagues. Looks like the football league is getting greedy!

The premier league gives them money each year (which they dont have to) - they have offered to increase parachute payments from £23.4m to £48m (DONT FORGET they are split amongst the rest if any of those clubs goes back up). Under those plans - £32m (west Brom & Newcastle) cash would be split amongst the rest next season alone.

They have offered to bump the money the give each championship club from 800k to £2.2m, league 1 clubs 350k from 103k, and league 2 clubs 250k from 103k - yet the clubs have rejected it!!!

The premier league has given the football league a 3 week deadline to accept - otherwise they will either keep the money as it is, or pull it out totally....leaving Championship clubs (who voted 23/24 for the changes) in limbo & potentially considering a Premier league 2.

English football on verge of civil war?

Premier League make payments threat to Football League

You have totally misunderstood the point. It's nothing to do with the football league being greedy (how can it be greed if they're turning down 'more money')?

Increased parachute payments to four years is ludicrous, I back their stance completely. It would just make it likely that the same old teams would be yo-yoing between the Premier League and the Championship.

The Premier League are, in effect, trying to make the Championship like the Premier League - keep the same old teams at the top by ensuring they get the most money.

Why should a team in the Championship be getting £8 million a season more than another club just because they were in the Premier League 3 seasons back?

Ask yourself why the Premier League want to do this, it's certainly not generosity. Probably to stop the likes of Burnley spoiling it for the big city clubs.

[bluebruce]

Ask yourself why the Premier League want to do this, it's certainly not generosity. Probably to stop the likes of Burnley spoiling it for the big city clubs.

...by increasing the money payments Burnley will get whilst down there, increasing their chances of promotion?

[philipl]

This 92 clubs is too many mantra is over worked and not true.

Yes clubs regularly get themselves into financial bother but that is invariably the product of business people leaving their brains behind when they join the board.

The following trends have happened over the past forty years or so:

- the number of professional full time clubs in England has grown from 92 to 114 (plus there might be the odd one in the sixth tier as well).

- the number of semi-pro teams has not declined.

- clubs have gone bust and gone out of existance but most of the phoenix clubs are not doing at all badly- look at Accrington, Aldershot and now Newport County. Maidstone are the exception in terms of disappearing completely.

- the introduction of automatic promotion and relegation between fourth and fifth tiers and a promotion and relegation system down to the ninth level has massively invigorated the lower levels and allowed very well managed clubs to rise even though the attendances of the likes of Daggers, Barnet, Accy, Cheltenham, Macclesfield, Morecambe are generally well below those of more established league clubs.

- attendances at third, fourth and fifth tier games are on a long term upwards trend and have on average doubled over the past twenty years.

- going bust is not unique to small unfashionable clubs in God-forsaken dumps. Leeds, Boro, Bristol City, Pompey show that- even Liverpool are technically insolvent at the moment.

[Guest Kamy100]

The money we got is as follows: equal share £26.7 m, tv appearence money £6.49m, finishing tenth £8.8m, total: £41.99m.

In terms of budgeting, obviously the £2.4 million extra (difference between finishing 13th and 10th) will make a big difference, also the extra TV games have been a bonus for the club, The above figures do not include the TV money received for the Carling Cup semi-final.

[Bobby G]

So how much can we estimate that we have available with the extras picked up yesterday?

7-8? or slightly higher?

Although the dwindling Sterling wont help and may even just off-set the extras picked up by finishing 10th.

[thenodrog]

Although the dwindling Sterling wont help and may even just off-set the extras picked up by finishing 10th.

This unfortunately might be about to change.

[Bobby G]

What do you mean?

[Hughesy]

League Meeting RE Money today

Accept or the prem pulls the £400m....what would happen with that then?? An extra £6.6m a year?

[brian_gallagher85]

What do you mean?

Sterling is actually on the rise

[Guest Kamy100]

Looking at the figures it looks like the difference for us between finishing 13th and 10th is £2.8 million.

[Hughesy]

The actual amount for each place is £800,424 Here

So £800,424 x 3 = £2,401,272

Extra TV Games against Arsenal & United = £499,734 x 2 = £999,468

+ Semi Final TV money (2 games) + share of ticket sales between 2 games

You then have the Benni McCarthy cash £2.2m + approx £700k in wages (based on 35k)

So thats about - £6,300,740 + Semi Final cash + perhaps a saving on Reids Wages

[Muddboy]

We might not be the most fashionable club in the land but a lot of other clubs would do well to follow our lead when it comes to managing the finances.

Budgeted for 13th, finished 10th and now almost £3million richer for it.

I wonder how many clubs budgeted for much higher than they finished and are now crapping their pants...?

Excellent work from JW, BFS and the entire squad.

Rovers are a shining light in largely murky Premier League!

[Steve Moss]

According to the Sun, the actual transfer budget is 3.5 million.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/2967529/Sam-Allardyce-has-35million-to-spend-on-his-Blackburn-squad.html

[Majiball]

I'd like to think we've got more than 3.5M, cause that won't get any sort of seasoned striker.

No wonder Sam doesn't want to lose Gamst if thats all he has to play with. If I'm being honest with all the comings and goings plus the tele dosh I'd hoped we would be about 3 times that for a change. I can only assume that the mega black hole spinning out of the galaxy, has its tail in our finance department.