[Archived] Policing At Rovers Vs Burnley

[broadsword]

Would they have been happy to use the facilities, apparently the women’s were not fit for pigs

Maybe that's the standard they're aiming for with the home toilets.

[Hannah]

I watched a steward try to stop two lads bringing up a couple of bottles of beer and send them back down. A policeman then went to the steward and spoke to him and the lads were then allowed up with the beer. It does really annoy me that they are now saying that they were smuggled up.

[ultrablue]

I watched a steward try to stop two lads bringing up a couple of bottles of beer and send them back down. A policeman then went to the steward and spoke to him and the lads were then allowed up with the beer. It does really annoy me that they are now saying that they were smuggled up.

Of course they say that now. You expect the police to say openly that they actively encouraged people to break the law? They have played their hand extremely well. If you are annoyed that this is somehow giving Rovers fans a bad name, take a look at the national newspapers- not a whisper of anything about loutish behaviour from our fans. All problems were low key, and this was down to the excellent policing.

[roversmum]

Well to be fair it was either that or a tragedy occuring - the crush in the concourse was that bad. The issue needs taking up with whoever gave the safety certificate, the police acted in the best possible way under the circumstances, I certainly have no argument with their actions.

[broadsword]

I wouldn't have been able to cope with that, I get very uneasy being stuck in a big crush.

[stuwilky]

Anyone else made their feelings known to CI Brown himself? I got an acknowledgment of my correspondence today.

[cravenblue]

Speaking to a policeman I know the other day. He says the commanding officer for the game got it completely wrong and in his opinion the only thing he should do is come out and apologise to the rovers fans for blatantly lying

[1864roverite]

Once and for all

Mr Brown did not blame Rovers fans for smuggling beer into the arena/seating area.

Mr Brown made the decision based on safety reasons and should be applauded for it.

LET reporter GOT IT WRONG AND MISQUOTED HIM.

The above is FACT and is from the HORSES MOUTH.

I know this because I have spoken directly to HIM having raised an issue through channels at work.

[CrazyIvan]

Once and for all

Mr Brown did not blame Rovers fans for smuggling beer into the arena/seating area.

Mr Brown made the decision based on safety reasons and should be applauded for it.

LET reporter GOT IT WRONG AND MISQUOTED HIM.

The above is FACT and is from the HORSES MOUTH.

I know this because I have spoken directly to HIM having raised an issue through channels at work.

The LET should print a retraction and an apology to both Mr Brown and the Rovers fans.

[Gav]

We arrived very last minute, the police did a sweep of the concourse and told us to make our way to the seats, beer and all.

All this is being blown out of all proportion, if burnley had won you’d have heard nothing about drinking in seats, but because they lost they need an outlet and this is it.

Pathetic really……

That said, the telegraph should print the truth, but hell will freeze over before that will happen.

[Tris]

Once and for all

Mr Brown did not blame Rovers fans for smuggling beer into the arena/seating area.

Mr Brown made the decision based on safety reasons and should be applauded for it.

LET reporter GOT IT WRONG AND MISQUOTED HIM.

The above is FACT and is from the HORSES MOUTH.

I know this because I have spoken directly to HIM having raised an issue through channels at work.

NOT once and for all. The words attributed to your colleague Mr Brown were published in the Telegraph 9 days ago.

He is high enough up the food chain to have cleared things up by now, via the same pages of the Telegraph. Why hasn't he?

For casual readers who read CI Brown's quotes, Rovers fans who went to Turf Moor are tarred as law breakers, end of story.

We all know that his officers - upholders of the law - instructed us to enter the stand with alcohol, but readers of the Telegraph think we broke the law because we're football related law breakers. That's not fair and it's not right.

If the LET misquoted Brown, then let's see him sort it out via the newspaper, otherwise the below quote is his own UNCORRECTED LIE. I'm afraid your five line post on the internet doesn't undo the harm already done.

Chief Insp Brown said: "Overall it was a successful operation. But before the match there was a major issue with serious congestion in the away end. {...}

"It is not correct to say that the police allowed fans to take their beers into the stands. But I am aware that many fans were able to smuggle their drinks to their seats.

"Fans would normally be prosecuted for taking drinks into the stands but we decided that the priority was to save lives and avoid injuries in the crush."

[philipl]

Obviously does need a public retraction in the LT.

As things stands hundreds of law-abiding citizens are branded as law breakers who possibly disobeyed police instructions.

[stuwilky]

I have contacted him directly, as well as both clubs. I shall be speaking to CI Brown next week and will see what he says.

I have no reason not to believe 1864 but given the lack of any attempt to placate my concerns in writing, never mind publicly I would like to hear it from the horse's mouth.

[the original david brent]

Once and for all

Mr Brown did not blame Rovers fans for smuggling beer into the arena/seating area.

Mr Brown made the decision based on safety reasons and should be applauded for it.

LET reporter GOT IT WRONG AND MISQUOTED HIM.

The above is FACT and is from the HORSES MOUTH.

I know this because I have spoken directly to HIM having raised an issue through channels at work.

well come out and say it in public then!!!!!

[1864roverite]

Gents and Ladies

Considering what happened in the home section of our "end" I wouldnt expect to see any retraction in the paper due to the fact there is an investigation by IPCC due to the allegations made against the police.

I would however urge you to make your views known to them.

I dont think the reporter will ever get any more papertime from either the cops or BFC in the future !!

[BlueMonday]

If true, its just another example of how the 'Tabloid Telegraph' is showing itself to be anti Blackburn Rovers.

God bless Peter White.

[roversmum]

Sad times indeed, when you can't even rely on your own local paper for support

[BlueMonday]

Sad times indeed, when you can't even rely on your own local paper for support

Think we're needing a new LOCAL paper. Burnley already has its own local, dont know why we have to read about Burnley issues in the Wag. My Dad used to send copies of the LET up to Scotland for the match reports, but its changed its slant over the years.

Its time for change.

Just to pick up Tris' earlier point. Some kind of correction needs to come from someone. Even a statement direct from Mr.Brown, if not from the weasley LET.

[Ben-2000]

I dont buy the telegraph anymore, after their constant Burnley 'bumming' this season... its a BLACKBURN based paper for gods sake!

Also the little things such as the monday pull out being named 'full time'... the dingle version is named 'the claret'...now tell me they are not dingle orientated!

[OscarRaven]

I dont buy the telegraph anymore, after their constant Burnley 'bumming' this season... its a BLACKBURN based paper for gods sake!

Also the little things such as the monday pull out being named 'full time'... the dingle version is named 'the claret'...now tell me they are not dingle orientated!

We know the LET reporters trawl here for their stories... how strangley quiet they are? I'm starting to believe the policeman (whatever next!).

I don't buy the paper and the website is appalling, anyone else see the video with Sam that was a 45 second advert followed by 0.5 second picture of sam in a press conference? I won't be sad to see it go.

[darwen1982]

A police officer told me that i could take my alcohol up to the stand and i recorded on my phone. Will the ipcc and Brown like to hear it as i can send them a copy of the recording if they like

Oh and them morans and LT

[Ossydave]

If true, its just another example of how the 'Tabloid Telegraph' is showing itself to be anti Blackburn Rovers.

God bless Peter White.

Exactly, it's been awful since the legend that is Peter White passed away.

As petty as it sounds, the number of sloppy articles with awful spelling and grammar in them these days is a joke too.

[colin]

I'm pleased to hear that .........it would have been good if the club had informed us of this when we purchased tickets. Our account is marked as disabled and so the information would have been clear to the ticket office.

Aside from the disabled issue I'm at a loss as to how the police operation can be described as a success. If success is defined as restricting my civil liberties simply because I want to attend a football match then I would argue the "success" of policing football matches remains questionable. For me the police operation raises a whole series of questions and that this operation was deemed necessary is in itself a failure. I'm not criticising the clubs on this point, it seems both organised their parts very well, but asking a question. I went to the last two games at Turf Moor and have read / heard the descriptions of the conditions at this match. I would suggest brightonrover should not be writing about the "success" of the police operation but the failure its need represents. In the 21st century to treat football fans in this manner, placing them in conditions which where probably unsafe and certainly would not be permitted for animals is completely unacceptable. I agree there seems to have been no "trouble," if this defines success than so be it.

Perhaps the Premier League should be investing some of its wealth in resolving these issues rather than pouring the money into the player's pockets?

[colin]

Aside from the disabled issue I'm at a loss as to how the police operation can be described as a success. If success is defined as restricting my civil liberties simply because I want to attend a football match then I would argue the "success" of policing football matches remains questionable. For me the police operation raises a whole series of questions and that this operation was deemed necessary is in itself a failure. I'm not criticising the clubs on this point, it seems both organised their parts very well, but asking a question. I went to the last two games at Turf Moor and have read / heard the descriptions of the conditions at this match. I would suggest brightonrover should not be writing about the "success" of the police operation but the failure its need represents. In the 21st century to treat football fans in this manner, placing them in conditions which where probably unsafe and certainly would not be permitted for animals is completely unacceptable.

Liverpool play Everton without the need for stringent travel arrangements

Arsenal play Tottenham Hotspurs

Manchester City play Manchester United

Aston Villa play Birmingham

We play Bolton

Swansea play Cardiff

So why are Lancashire police so picky about Rovers v Burnley? Is Lancashire police force adding petrol to the flames?

I don't know really, but I'd guess (oh, how I hate that phrase on t'internet) that it is making a bad situation worse by being so draconian.

Is it just an over-reaction? Probably.