[Archived] Election

[philipl]

Back to the real world and thus far I have only seen Liberal Democrat billboards in front gardens or people's windows- nothing for the other parties.

[thenodrog]

Back to the real world and thus far I have only seen Liberal Democrat billboards in front gardens or people's windows- nothing for the other parties.

Maybe thats cos your location tells us that you are in Malta. Is that different too in your real world?

[sleepyjack]

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

Labour?.....I dont like the way the country has spiraled down under their tenure.Same old some would say.

Tories? ....do they have the best interests of 'the working class Joe' at heart?.Some would say history proves not.

Lib Dems?.... no history of running the country.

BNP? Green?.... nothing more than a protest votes worth?

Not much left to vote for is there?....Hold on, what about GROOBY!!

[Bazzanotsogreat]

Back to the real world and thus far I have only seen Liberal Democrat billboards in front gardens or people's windows- nothing for the other parties.

A rather odd thing to come out with from someone who redides outside the UK?

[Amo]

In what way?

Both major parties have become complacent, it's time for a political shake-up.

[Paul]

Back to the real world and thus far I have only seen Liberal Democrat billboards in front gardens or people's windows- nothing for the other parties.

I work in George Osborne's constituency..............his picture is all over the place.

[den]

Frucking scumbags!

Labour hit by cancer leaflet row

From that article:

Cards addressed to sufferers by name warn that a Labour guarantee to see a cancer specialist within two weeks would be scrapped by the Tories. Labour claims the Conservatives would also do away with the right to be treated within 18 weeks.

A short time ago I would never have believed that a British government would deny life saving drugs to cancer patients. By that, I mean drugs that would extend life by, not months, but decades. Drugs that could give people 30 years more than they could currently expect. Drugs that are available in Scotland and Wales, as well as across Europe and America. What's the use of seeing a Cancer specialist within 2 weeks,if the patient is then denied access to the required drug by the National Institute for Clinical Excellence? NICE are consistently denying necessary, life prolonging drugs based simply on cost. I wouldn't have believed it, but it is true. It's a disgusting situation. I've been campaigning for one such drug which has been refused by NICE. The appeal has been lodged and we're all hoping they change their decision.

[JC4LAB]

Saw Jack Straw taking Q&as on Saturday outside BHS...Afghanistan dominates discussion so much you dont get to hear much else..My gripe I was able to squeeze in as the crowds dispursed was about how the taxman has become nasty and is bleeding small business with any excuss to demand massive massive penalties . He did offer a personal appointment in fairness

[philipl]

I am at our home in London

Some Lib Dem comment

[philipl]

Borrowed this from a link from the Marple Leaf.

Correlation between Election winners and FA Cup holders' colours:

able: The Political Football

Election Winner FA Cup Holders

(year of final) Shirt Colour(s) Correct?

2010 ? Chelsea (2009) Blue ?

2005 Lab Manchester United (2004) Red Y

2001 Lab Liverpool (2001) Red Y

1997 Lab Manchester United (1996) Red Y

1992 Con Tottenham Hotspur (1991) White Y

1987 Con Coventry City (1987) Sky Blue Y

1983 Con Manchester United (1983) Red N**

1979 Con Ipswich Town (1978) Blue Y

1974 Oct Lab Liverpool (1974) Red Y

1974 Feb Hung Sunderland (1973) Red & White Y

1970 Con Chelsea (1970) Blue Y

1966 Lab Liverpool (1965) Red Y

1964 Lab West Ham United (1964) Red (Claret) Y

1959 Con Nottingham Forest (1959) Red N

1955 Con Newcastle United (1955) Black & White Y

1951 Con Newcastle United (1951) Black & White Y

1950 Lab Wolverhampton Wanderers (1949) Yellow (Old Gold) Y

** Would have been correct if Brighton & Hove Albion (BLUE) had not missed an open goal in the dying seconds of the FA Cup final, before losing the replay ("and Smith must score").

[colin]

Most votes are dead votes anyway, so you might as well vote for what you believe in.

Too true, it's about the 100 or so most marginal seats (out of 625?)where votes count and where elections change things. The national swing to one party or another has got to be absolutely massive to make a change to Parliament.

The Labour party in my constituancy would have to have Ian Brady as a candidate before anyone else got in. So pretty much a wasted vote for anyone else bar Labour.

[cletus]

Any chance of a 'message board poll' ?? Who will you vote for? ......just out of interest

[Amo]

I am at our home in London

Some Lib Dem comment

I think the author makes a good point regarding the Lib Dems and young voters. Most people in the country are set in their ways between Labour or Tory, but young people are more open-minded about which party to support.

[thenodrog]

Personally I've never understood the point of the Liberal Party. They are mainstream and not reactionary / revolutionary in any way. They well know that they won't ever get near the big two so what on earth do they offer apart from wishy washy policies that are based in possibility rather than reallity and expounded by third rate politicians?

I'd suggest the very real fears and deep misgivings over a hung parliament from the real worlds of business and finance etc etc are cos the Lib Dems might actually for once have a whip hand in governmental decisions.

[koi]

Lib Dems are a joke. At least the Lab/Con parties have some form of conviction.

[tony gale's mic]

Frucking scumbags!

Labour hit by cancer leaflet row

"LABOUR has become embroiled in a row about the use of personal data after sending cancer patients alarmist mailshots saying their lives could be at risk under a Conservative government.

Cards addressed to sufferers by name warn that a Labour guarantee to see a cancer specialist within two weeks would be scrapped by the Tories. Labour claims the Conservatives would also do away with the right to be treated within 18 weeks.

Cancer patients who received the personalised cards, sent with a message from a breast cancer survivor praising her treatment under Labour, said they were disgusted and shocked, and feared that the party may have had access to confidential health data."

What a load of f**king rubbish.

Those cards were sent to 300,000 people SOME of whom were cancer patients as one would expect when you send cards to that many people, but most of whom weren't. Of course they were addressed by name; they wouldve got the same mailing lists that various organisations use when sending things out.

And hell, Labour have done a lot wrong these last 13 years but they have made a positive difference to the NHS. There is nothing wrong with sending those cards out - if it can be shown that all or most of those cards were sent to cancer patients that's a different matter as specifically targeting cancer patients is wrong. But all that's happened is that Labour have sent out a LOT of leaflets regarding the care of patients with cancer and some people with cancer have happened to recieve them.

[tony gale's mic]

From that article:

Cards addressed to sufferers by name warn that a Labour guarantee to see a cancer specialist within two weeks would be scrapped by the Tories. Labour claims the Conservatives would also do away with the right to be treated within 18 weeks.

A short time ago I would never have believed that a British government would deny life saving drugs to cancer patients. By that, I mean drugs that would extend life by, not months, but decades. Drugs that could give people 30 years more than they could currently expect. Drugs that are available in Scotland and Wales, as well as across Europe and America. What's the use of seeing a Cancer specialist within 2 weeks,if the patient is then denied access to the required drug by the National Institute for Clinical Excellence? NICE are consistently denying necessary, life prolonging drugs based simply on cost. I wouldn't have believed it, but it is true. It's a disgusting situation. I've been campaigning for one such drug which has been refused by NICE. The appeal has been lodged and we're all hoping they change their decision.

Our NHS runs on a very finite amount of money. An organisation like NICE is entirely necessary otherwise we would run out of money at the drop of a hat. Do you have any idea about how much some drugs cost the NHS? If something prolongs someones life for a few months but costs £100,000 for the privilege is it worth it compared to how many lives it could save if that money is spent in other areas?

[berkshireblue]

Not healthy to mix politics with sport

But I am holding my breath for a blue win, another few years of Brown would be a disaster on so many fronts, not least a spring reversal back into recession..A Cameron win would see the economy & the city pick up, and whether you agree with what has gone on in the city or not a healthy city means a healthy economy and a healthy country..

[tony gale's mic]

Not healthy to mix politics with sport

But I am holding my breath for a blue win, another few years of Brown would be a disaster on so many fronts, not least a spring reversal back into recession..A Cameron win would see the economy & the city pick up, and whether you agree with what has gone on in the city or not a healthy city means a healthy economy and a healthy country..

Yeah, things are really as simple as that. More power to the bankers!

[RibbleValleyRover]

But I am holding my breath for a blue win, another few years of Brown would be a disaster on so many fronts, not least a spring reversal back into recession..A Cameron win would see the economy & the city pick up, and whether you agree with what has gone on in the city or not a healthy city means a healthy economy and a healthy country..

I agree and i hope that's the result.

Honestly though I am starting to have my doubts that they will get in whether as a coalition, minority of majority government. The expenses row has hit all political parties and has largely contributed to the narrowing of the gap in the polls between the 3 main parties.

I'm not sure today's manifesto launch and the idea of "big society not big government" will impact on the voters to the extent that they decide there must be a change. 13 years of command and control under Labour will make it difficult to sell the idea of giving people more power; mindsets can take a while to change.

A lot will hinge on these debates imo, there's a lot of pressure on Cameron to seal the deal with the voters.

[jim mk2]

Not healthy to mix politics with sport

But I am holding my breath for a blue win, another few years of Brown would be a disaster on so many fronts, not least a spring reversal back into recession..A Cameron win would see the economy & the city pick up, and whether you agree with what has gone on in the city or not a healthy city means a healthy economy and a healthy country..

Absolute bleeding cobblers and so wrong it must be a wind-up.

The economy is recovering strongly thanks to the QE policies of Brown and Darling and there is nothing to suggest in the latest manufacturing, housing market and high street spending data that a double dip recession is likely whatever the hue of the next government. By contrast, the Tory solution to the worldwide economic crisis was to sit on their hands and let British businesses (good and bad) go to the wall. To judge from comments I have read in the financial press, the City is not convinced by Cameron and is deeply unimpressed with shadow chancellor Osborne, so I doubt if they would be popping the champagne corks if the Tories were elected. I would also remind you that the excesses of bankers in the City has helped to bring this country's economy to its knees. Britain has an extremely unhealthy and unbalanced economy because the City which even the Tories have said faces stronger regulation to curb its excesses.

[philipl]

Just bumped into a Tory canvassing team who'd been working the big houses facing the Common. Very long faces- they thought they'd be welcomed warmly and were getting a right ear full at most houses. Mind you this is a Lab/LD fight and the Tories were trying to peddle the line that only they could beat Labour. Like they got 13% to the LD 37% last time- if Osborne's sums are as good we'll be right up the swanny!

[koi]

Absolute bleeding cobblers and so wrong it must be a wind-up.

The economy is recovering strongly thanks to the QE policies of Brown and Darling and there is nothing to suggest in the latest manufacturing, housing market and high street spending data that a double dip recession is likely whatever the hue of the next government. By contrast, the Tory solution to the worldwide economic crisis was to sit on their hands and let British businesses (good and bad) go to the wall. To judge from comments I have read in the financial press, the City is not convinced by Cameron and is deeply unimpressed with shadow chancellor Osborne, so I doubt if they would be popping the champagne corks if the Tories were elected. I would also remind you that the excesses of bankers in the City has helped to bring this country's economy to its knees. Britain has an extremely unhealthy and unbalanced economy because the City which even the Tories have said faces stronger regulation to curb its excesses.

Tell me Jim, you make some interesting comments, can I ask what your background is?

[1864roverite]

the majlority of the media darlings have all appeared to loose faith in Brown, what does that say ?

For the likes of The Sun and The NOTW to back the Tories exemplifies how bad life has becoime under Labour.

Labour will tax anything they can if allowed and this cannot go on.

the country is ruined, they treat its citizens as second rate, they abuse power, they do not tell the truth anjd have been full of broken promises, that is why we must see them ousted on May 6th.

2010 and beyond with a labour ruling government is a bad thing for everyone in Britain.