[Archived] Election

[JAL]

House prices are absolutely stratospheric. Completely out of kilter and very difficult for first time buyers to get a leg up on the market.

Plus they give a completely unrealistic view of a persons personal fortune whilst only serving to feed all of us to the banking industry.

There should be a stand made in this country against the banking industry, the housing market, and the governments involvement in all of this.

[only2garners]

Indeed Bryan, but does it really matter? There have been a few unelected PM's over the years, John Major for one, Macmillan, Callaghan, Douglas Home to name a few more. It's not something new.

I think you can add Eden and Churchill to that list - in fact rather more Conservative than Labour prime ministers. But the greater point is still that no prime minister has ever been elected - that's not how our system works. It pains me greatly that these days you seem to have a majority of people believing the opposite. You vote for an MP to elect you in your constituency and they all get together in Parliament and choose a Prime Minister. That this process has been hijacked to some extent by groups of MPs getting together beforehand and choosing a leader is irrelevant. If, as looks most likely as I type, Cameron becomes PM, he won't have been "elected" by voters either, either technically or practically as he didn't get a majority for his team. He will still have legitimacy though, no matter how much I would wish he didn't.

[koi]

Strong rumours it's a Con/Lab coalition. Best we could hope though a part of me would have liked to see the disaster that would have been the Lab/Lib/Plaid/SNP/Green/SDUP party.

[den]

Strong rumours it's a Con/Lab coalition. Best we could hope though a part of me would have liked to see the disaster that would have been the Lab/Lib/Plaid/SNP/Green/SDUP party.

Do you mean con/lib?

[Alan75]

BREAKING NEWS.

Chelsea did not win the Premiership

Man Utd and Arsenal have formed a coalition giving them more points than Chelsea.

[koi]

Do you mean con/lib?

Er, yeah

BREAKING NEWS.

Chelsea did not win the Premiership

Man Utd and Arsenal have formed a coalition giving them more points than Chelsea.

Apparently someone did that joke on MyBook or FaceSpace or BookSpace or summat like that.

[den]

Strong rumours it's a Con/Lab coalition. Best we could hope though a part of me would have liked to see the disaster that would have been the Lab/Lib/Plaid/SNP/Green/SDUP party.

The best we could have hoped for would have been for all three parties to stand up for what they believe in.

For the life of me, I can't see what the Libs will get out of this. Well I can I suppose - a seat or two in a new parliament. Where they go after this - who knows?

[koi]

It's a rock and a hard place for Cleggy, I think people have to understand that. If they do go ahead with the Tories then I can't help but think they'll lose support, saying that if they go ahead with Labour and the minorities then again, they'd lose support. I still think getting a Tory pact past the grandees will be hard - can you see Steele and Paddy supporting it?

At the moment I'm worried about what DaveCam has given away.

[RibbleValleyRover]

Evening standard reckon that Brown has quit as PM. BBC say they have seen bags being put into cars at the back of number 10.

Brown on his way?

[Glenn]

There should be a stand made in this country against the banking industry, the housing market, and the governments involvement in all of this.

Most people forget

Some banks did not abuse self regulation

Some banks saw the potential risk in sub prime and stayed away

some banks saw that risking "cheap" money on dodgy investments was still a bad risk

Some banks stayed stable in the face of the economic decline

Some banks did not need bailing out by the government

Some banks turned turn government payments to help them out

Sadly, the whole "all bankers are evil fat cats that are responsible global economic downturns" thing means the people who work at ALL LEVELS of these banks who did the right thing are still likely to see their incomes significantly reduced because everyone is baying for a "bankers tax".

If the government had any sense they'd realise they just bought back some potentially profitable now-nationalised industries for a fraction of what they could be worth, they should bust a gut to pay for the best of best to manage them and actually makes some money from then, rather than selling off the profitable bits and sweeping the rest under the carpet.

Er, yeah

Apparently someone did that joke on MyBook or FaceSpace or BookSpace or summat like that.

I'd ask "Where's Cherno Samba" but I bet I could count on the fingers of one hand (a normal one, not a Dingle one) the people who have been around here long enough to have a clue what I'm on about.

[ABBEY]

Do you mean con/lib?

more like CONDEM

or con dem der people

[1864roverite]

Spin that one Jimbo !!!

Now we have seen what Brown and his like are really all about. Thinking nothing apart from themselves.

its not about Britain, its not about this country's people, its about HIM and LABOUR.

Now he has been effectively binned after offering himself as some sort of sacrificial lamb for the cause.

Now for more inhouse Labour backbiting in tghe next leadership race instead of concentrating about this country.

[thenodrog]

... oh and outlaw the whip, but as I pointed out above, that is impossible to enforce.

Surely not if MP's are allowed to vote in private?

As for an unelected leader this really annoys me. You vote for the party and the policies they present, not the face at the top.

Might have done once but televising the commons and the Leadership 3 way discussion events have completely outdated that for so many voters.

[Mattyblue]

Surely not if MP's are allowed to vote in private?

Might have done once but televising the commons and the Leadership 3 way discussion events have completely outdated that for so many voters.

Plus British Prime Ministers are extremely powerful in government, much more so than the US president. By using royal pergotaive and various other devices they have free reign.

[koi]

Most people forget

Some banks did not abuse self regulation

Some banks saw the potential risk in sub prime and stayed away

some banks saw that risking "cheap" money on dodgy investments was still a bad risk

Some banks stayed stable in the face of the economic decline

Some banks did not need bailing out by the government

Some banks turned turn government payments to help them out

Sadly, the whole "all bankers are evil fat cats that are responsible global economic downturns" thing means the people who work at ALL LEVELS of these banks who did the right thing are still likely to see their incomes significantly reduced because everyone is baying for a "bankers tax".

If the government had any sense they'd realise they just bought back some potentially profitable now-nationalised industries for a fraction of what they could be worth, they should bust a gut to pay for the best of best to manage them and actually makes some money from then, rather than selling off the profitable bits and sweeping the rest under the carpet.

I'd ask "Where's Cherno Samba" but I bet I could count on the fingers of one hand (a normal one, not a Dingle one) the people who have been around here long enough to have a clue what I'm on about.

Cherno Samba! I always bought him from Millwall on Sensible football (I think, it was a long time a go). Now he was a wonder kid, untouchable back in the day!

[thenodrog]

A few thoughts...

1. I've long held the opinion that MP's think first of themselves, second of their party and lastly the best interests of the country. I've seen little to nothing these past few days which would make me change my mind. Apart maybe the wise words of John Reid, David Blunkett and Andy Burnham.

2. Can we now please revert to pre 1988 and refer to the LibDems as the Liberals? They've shown that democracy is a long way from their minds.

[Sandiway Blue]

Surely not if MP's are allowed to vote in private?

Might have done once but televising the commons and the Leadership 3 way discussion events have completely outdated that for so many voters.

Indeed,which is why Clegg proved so popular in the televised debates,until people saw some of their policies and realised what they stood for and didn`t like it.

[koi]

Well looks like Jim was right and they'll get some seats (sorry Jim!). If a Lib Dem replaces Ken Clarke then my vote will be gone. Very best thing DaveCam give Kenneth the Chancellors job.

Cherno Samba! I always bought him from Millwall on Sensible football (I think, it was a long time a go). Now he was a wonder kid, untouchable back in the day!

I typed Sensible football why is it saying football? I've tried to change it with no success??

I type S O C C E R and it comes up as football!

[BuckyRover]

Nick Robinson thought Clarke would be appointed Chancellor and Cable/Osbourne both supporting

[American]

Interesting that everyone railing about the banks seem to be Labour voters. Aren't they the one party who doesn't want to regulate them and limit what they can and can't buy and sell?

From the Wall St Journal:

Mr. Clegg's party has urged breaking up large banks while the Conservatives want to prevent retail banks engaging in risky activities. Labour has opposed capping banks' size or banning them from certain activities. They want to link risky activities with higher capital and liquidity requirements.

[Glenn]

I typed Sensible football why is it saying football? I've tried to change it with no success??

I type S O C C E R and it comes up as football!

Ste has been having fun with the swear filter me thinks.

[grizfoot]

Nick Robinson thought Clarke would be appointed Chancellor and Cable/Osbourne both supporting

Vince Cable would make the best Chancellor out of the three in my opinion but as long as it's not Osbourne I'm not too fussed.

[Amo]

So Cameron becomes Prime Minister? Oh dear. When it rains, it pours...

[koi]

Nick Robinson thought Clarke would be appointed Chancellor and Cable/Osbourne both supporting

Don't get my hopes up.

[roversmum]

Been watching Sky News over the last few months and coming to the conclusion that it is rapidly sliding down hill. Some of the presenters (Adam Boulton in particular) have in my opinion shown a lot of political bais (mainly against the Labour party), there coverage over the last week or so has been all over the place. Boulton who claims to be a serious political journalist has "lost it" on air three times over the last week. Kay Burley has also been less the professional over the last few weeks, the channel is very much becoming like Murdoch's Fox News in America.

The BBC have had a Labour bias for years - no doubt you feel aggrieved about that as well especially as we have to pay the Licence fee ... It's quite refreshing to hear someone who's a bit more objective.