[Archived] Pes2011

[Guest Kamy100]

Konami have given first details of PES2011.

Looks like they have listened to fans and it more of a Revolution than an Evolution:

PES 2011: Football Evolved

Total revamp, total freedom, total football

Konami Digital Entertainment GmbH will deliver a completely new footballing experience later this year with the advent of PES 2011, for PlayStation®3, Xbox 360, PC-DVD, Wii, PlayStation 2 and PSP (PlayStation®Portable), which sees the publisher's long-running series undergo the most radical revamp in its history.

The PES range has long been regarded as offering incredible realism and control, but PES 2011 will reinvigorate the series with the most advanced raft of gameplay additions, control options, and animations to meet the evolution of real-life football. Central to its total freedom of play, PES 2011 introduces a power bar for each player that allows the user to determine the exact strength and placement of every pass and shot. Balls can now be spread absolutely anywhere with utter precision, with long balls into space, short passes to feet and intricate one-twos allowing the player to dictate play and control the tempo of a match.

This freedom of play is also extended via new AI routines designed to place every move and decision in the player's hands. No longer will assisted AI intervene during matches; users will now need to sense and react to threats; and passes will not automatically reach the nearest player. Instead, all-new routines facilitate complete control both of the player and their chosen actions in every respect to give the player sublime control over every movement.

"It was time for PES to transform, and PES 2011 represents the most ambitious redesign in the series' history," commented Jon Murphy, European PES Team Leader for Konami Digital Entertainment GmbH. "We've continued to work closely with the fans to pinpoint what it is about football that PES didn't do. Total freedom was the priority and all-new animation a must. PES 2011 does both - indeed, they are directly linked to each other - and while the new game is recognisably PES at its heart, it is also the most radically improved version ever."

Key to PES 2011's new approach is a specially-designed control system that allows total control over every element of play. The triangulation of passes and making space using clever runs becomes paramount, and build-up play is everything. Likewise, dribbling and close control are tougher to master, and the days of making streaking runs through the centre of the park are over, as PES mirrors the real-life football.

The result is the most complete and realistic PES to date. PES 2011 delivers an evolved experience that still has the key PES ehthos of skill and realism at its core. Likewise, every other aspect of the game has been totally reworked, including:

Total Control: PES Productions has enhanced the 360-degree passing ratio, offering unprecedented levels of control over every pass, shot, throw-in, through ball and lofted through balls. This allows users to pass the ball into space, and move their play with total freedom. Players must precisely weight their passes and second-guess the runs of their team-mates and exploit their movement. Players even can apply pressure on opponents to force them off the ball.

Shot & Stamina Gauge: In addition to the generic power gauge, the Shot & Stamina meter details the player's exact level of fitness. Constantly sprinting will affect the player's movements and will have an adverse affect on his stats, with passes going awry and a loss of pace.

New Defender AI: Defenders now hold their positions naturally, no longer chasing any ball that enters their area; preferring to close down the attacker and force them into a mistake.

Animation and Player Physics: PES Productions has totally reworked every element of in-game animation. These additions will become clear before even kick-off, with the players enjoying fluid, natural movements, with more realistic acceleration and inertia than ever before. The physicality between players is also improved, which was a priority requested in PES forums. Jostling and blocking now looks stunning, while there is a larger variety of convincing tackling styles. Ambient animation also adds immensely to the in-game atmosphere, as players behave realistically when off the ball, and walk and run with a variety of individual styles.

Speed of Play: The new level of control means that PES 2011 enjoys a more considered pace of play, which varies dependent on situations. The game will burst into life as counter-attacks come into play, but players can dictate the pace via slow build up or exploiting available space to surge forward. It is harder to make long runs from midfield, and successful play will depend on making quick passes to make room.

Aesthetics: PES 2010 showcased the best likenesses in a football game, and PES 2011 ups the ante further. Facial animation has been enhanced, but the key advances are over 1000 all-new animations which have been recreated from the ground up using over 100 hours of motion captured footage. Every aspect of player movement has been reworked, with more organic runs, turns, throw-ins, tackles, and interaction. The way players speed up and slow down is also more natural, while replays display elements of motion blur that bring your saved goals to vivid life.

Tactical and Strategy: The sheer number of options available in the PES series has established it as a remarkably flexible simulation, allowing players to stamp their playing style on each match. The PES Productions team has implemented an all new 'Drag and Drop' mechanism that can be used in every aspect of team management, not just substitutions or formation changes. These settings are also animated to promote better understanding of the plays that have been altered.

Feint settings: PES has always offered a wide range of subtle skills, feints and turns, but PES 2011 allows users to map their favourite move sequences to the right stick, making them more accessible than ever before.

Master League Online: Master League will offer an all-new challenge, as users are invited to try their hand against other managers online. PES 2011 will mark the online debut for its much-loved Master League element, with players bidding against each other for the world?s best players, and attempting to build a squad that can compete with the best against online peers all over the globe.

PES 2011 also features a myriad of smaller additions, all designed to enhance the overall experience. The game's difficulty level has been upped thanks to the greater control on offer, while new camera angles showcase the game's stunning visuals and animation. Likewise, in accordance with the strong wishes of the fan base, both referees and goal keepers have been improved in both aesthetic and AI terms, while an all-new commentary process has been implemented that offers a better and less repetitive overview of the proceedings.

The game will also see the return of Lionel Messi - arguably the greatest player in the modern game - as its cover star, and the expansion of its UEFA Champions League and UEFA Europa League elements, and the addition of the Copa Liberadores, South America's most influential and important club-based competition.

"This is just the tip of the iceberg for PES 2011," concluded Murphy. "We have some significant announcements still to come regarding game modes and gameplay functions. The first footage of the new game perfectly showcases the new animation and freedom elements that beat at the heart of the new game. We are confident that PES 2011 will both surprise and delight football fans. They are going to have to relearn how they play, as this is a very different game, but I am confident it will blow them all away."

PES 2011 will be released for PlayStation®3, Xbox 360, Wii, PlayStation®2, PSP (PlayStation®Portable), and PC-DVD in the Autumn.

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This freedom of play is also extended via new AI routines designed to place every move and decision in the player's hands. No longer will assisted AI intervene during matches; users will now need to sense and react to threats; and passes will not automatically reach the nearest player. Instead, all-new routines facilitate complete control both of the player and their chosen actions in every respect to give the player sublime control over every movement.

I love PES but this for me has always been a major gripe with the AI, if they sort the AI out so it doesn't do stupid things then I'm really looking forward to it. I also like the sound of the new passing controls. I can't wait for this!

[Guest Kamy100]

Totally agree that the AI needed reworking and glad that they are doing it, also the other major gripe was the animations and freedom of control engine which was from the PS2 days, now they are implementing a brand new engine that will really benefit PES.

I am still playing and loving PES10 so really looking forward to PES11.

They are going to release a video of the new game later today!

Here we go teaser trailer, The new PES 2011 trailer shows the return of Lionel Messi and alludes to the increased control available in the game.

Teaser Trailer

[snatchymcsnatch]

They certainly talk a good game - I'd love to see PES leapfrog FIFA again but I'll believe it when I see it.

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They certainly talk a good game - I'd love to see PES leapfrog FIFA again but I'll believe it when I see it.

Ive stuck with PES even though a lot of other people have moved to FIFA, Fifa has improved over the years and is now in fairness a decent game but I just don't get the same feeling when I catch a perfect volley or a crunching tackle and when playing it with mates witnessing the ProEvo rage that occurs when I take them out when they are clean through on goal.

[Guest Kamy100]

Same here, I have played a hell of a lot of PES2010 this year, it far from the perfect football game but it does the fundemental things right, particularly the Master League which works really well. The new innovations if implemented properly will see people coming back to the game. FIFA 10 is also a good game, it has some huge problems playing against AI but playing against friends it is a very good game. Hopefully FIFA 11 is also great.

It would be superb to have 2 great footballing games on the market!

[DeadlyDirk]

Lots of exciting news there, I'm definitely in favour of a revolution rather than an evolution, I just hope it works, certainly a big risk. Shows that they are not just happy to rest on their laurels though and want to take the game forward.

Personally I enjoyed PES 2010 and am still enjoying it, the gameplay patch you posted a month or two back was pretty good Kamy, helping to slow down the gameplay a bit.

I like the sounds of all the new features to be honest, the key will be rather they work properley though as I mentioned earlier, certainly looking forward to it though, I can't believe that it's coming up so ready, time really fly's these days!

[Guest Kamy100]

Looking very good, still 5 months out from release, this is hugely promising. Apparently Konami are going to spend some of this time linking animations and sorting out the Goalkeeper AI.

[DeadlyDirk]

5 months before release? Wow looks very promising in deed, certainly looking very different from previous versions. I think I share your excitement Kamy.

With World Cup fever on I think I'm going to have to get back into Pes2010 tonight, if anyone is online for a game feel free to add me, DeadlyDirk23

[MeanGreenMachine]

I will give it a try, but my patience is wearing thin. Pro evo has been shocking for the last 3 years.

[Guest Kamy100]

Looks very promising.

[LeChuck]

Looks very promising.

I'd be happy if:

a] the best tactic wasn't to dribble with the best players

b] it was impossible for cheating c....s to use the lag cheat online

[Ewood and I Would]

I'd be happy if:

a] the best tactic wasn't to dribble with the best players

b] it was impossible for cheating c....s to use the lag cheat online

That could so simply be sorted with dedicated servers instead of this P2P rubbish they use now. It costs to run dedicated servers but they could pay for these by seeling advertising on the in game adboards.

[Guest Kamy100]

New Gameplay Video:

[LeChuck]

Got excited about that video until it reached 7 minutes in.

Messi can still dribble round whole teams it appears, so that's all people will continue to do. I don't think I'll buy it this year, and I've bought every one since it was ISS on the Playstation.

[Guest Kamy100]

Apparently the video is shot on the player playing on easy mode, hence they are able to dribble with ease.

Lots of previews released today and pretty much all of them say that PES2011 is a return to form for Konami.

[brfcshabba]

Gah Jim Beglin?

Will have to sample both demos and make a decision from there, but this does look very good

[roversfan99]

The 2 biggest problems on PES2010 was the clunky players turning and the dreadful goalkeepers who just stay on their goal line and dont attempt to save the ball. Neither problem seems to have been solved going off that video, il get the demo anyway to see

[Tom]

Every year they say this is the year pes is back and fail.

This looks light years behind the last FIFA, players move like robots an there's no fluidity it seems.

I used to be a huge pes fanboy and would love them to get back to pes4 standards but it doesn't seem likely.

[LeChuck]

This looks light years behind the last FIFA, players move like robots an there's no fluidity it seems.

That's an area they need to improve, but it's still better than FIFA, the ball movement in FIFA is nowhere near as good as PES. It just doesn't feel like you have the same amount of control, if you catch a volley perfectly on PES you feel like you did it, I just don't get that feeling with FIFA.

Having said that they are very close now, and I like both.

On a side note, I passed the 600 barrier for my PES 2010 online rating last night.

[Guest Kamy100]

Totally agree, at it's core PES2010 is a very good game, it gets the fundementals right, yes it the animations weren't upto FIFA's standards but the core gameplay was superior.

PES2011 is shaping up to be very special, the animations have been improved ten fold since last year and with over 2 months to release left there is more fine tuning going on.

Last year PES was not liked by the press but this year it has received massively positive reception.

[American Rover12]

That's an area they need to improve, but it's still better than FIFA, the ball movement in FIFA is nowhere near as good as PES. It just doesn't feel like you have the same amount of control, if you catch a volley perfectly on PES you feel like you did it, I just don't get that feeling with FIFA.

Just out of curiosity, do you play with manual controls on in fifa?

[Guest Kamy100]

Just out of curiosity, do you play with manual controls on in fifa?

Personally the only way to play FIFA is with manual controls, it takes a bot of getting used to but is ultimately more rewarding. Playing with assisted controls is nothing more than a button pressing exercise because the AI does everything else for you.

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That's an area they need to improve, but it's still better than FIFA, the ball movement in FIFA is nowhere near as good as PES. It just doesn't feel like you have the same amount of control, if you catch a volley perfectly on PES you feel like you did it, I just don't get that feeling with FIFA.

This has always been my thing with PES even on the not so acclaimed ones, you get the feeling of achievement, Ive hit goals from distance on Fifa and gone meh but on PES I stand up like Im at the Rovers from the moment I make contact with the ball because like in real football you kinda just know if you have hit it absoloutly perfectly, if it goes in Im jumping around on Fifa you just don't get that feeling.

Where I previously worked we used to get this EA rep in a few times a year and he would always ask 'Do you like FIFA?' to his horrer we would always say Pro Evo because you get that feeling.

[K-Hod]

I've owned every one since PES 3 on PS2- for me though, Pro Evo 4/5- the pinnacle!

Fast gameplay, it was just perfect to play them!